[Redoak49]

Interesting but at $2700 it is expensive

 

[EarlS]

Interesting but at $2700 it is expensive

- Redoak49

I bought the Oneida Supercell since it hung on the wall, had a small footprint (about the size of a built-in central vac for a house), and did double duty as a DC and shop vac. It was similarly priced. I looked at the Harvey, but floor space was an issue for me since I couldn't tuck it under anything.

My point - good DC systems are not cheap. However, as the Oneida rep asked: How much $$ have you spent on dust collectors that didn't work for you?

I'd be interested to see how the Harvey performs over the next couple of months. Maybe you can post a follow-up.

 

[whope]

Interesting but at $2700 it is expensive

- Redoak49

Indeed it is. Nobody likes spending money on equipment that doesn't directly produce something. Given that it is the most used machine in my shop, a good investment should be made.

Would the Jet have been sufficient with metal ducting? Perhaps. But that would have still left the metal trashcan chip collector in the loop that needed constant attention.

They occasionally reduce it to about $2200 if you're on their mailing list, which is about the same price as the V-3000 unit.

As everyone says: Buy once, cry once. Having this and the ductwork installed has made it nicer to work in the shop. No more dragging the plastic hose from machine to machine. It does shut off when the bag gets full, so I'm not constantly checking, or forgetting to check, the chip level.

 

[LittleBlackDuck]

Thanks for the post whope... I have my dusty stuff covered and it's not by me grovelling to SWMBO… I have a swag of Dust Deputies, a few Marshalls and some Police Officers on my payroll to keep my workshop dust free.

Nevertheless, the more diversified stuff we know about, the better decisions we can make in the future. If Henry was worried about the costs, Holden would rule the market (ya gotta be an Aussie).
Interesting that often the first reaction to many products is the shekels… Hell, if I was intimidated, I'd never buy a Fe$tool… I love 'em and I'm not rich (sorry Rich (if you read this), but you're no duck either)...

Still, I gotta have a go at this "box"... where's the wheels?... if it don't move it sucks... and not in a complimentary way. The only thing that should not move in a workshop is the fridge... so one always knows where it is.

 

[whope]

The unit has wheels and is easy to move. There are two adjustable feet on the motor end.

Thanks for the post whope... I have my dusty stuff covered and it s not by me grovelling to SWMBO… I have a swag of Dust Deputies, a few Marshalls and some Police Officers on my payroll to keep my workshop dust free.

Still, I gotta have a go at this "box"... where s the wheels?... if it don t move it sucks... and not in a complimentary way. The only thing that should not move in a workshop is the fridge... so one always knows where it is.

- LittleBlackDuck

 

[LittleBlackDuck]

Congrats whope,

you've landed a spam…

 

[Lazyman]

You comment that it is still pretty loud but in your video, it appears that you are speaking live at only a slight raised voice and not dubbing during the edit. There are not too many dust collectors where you could still be heard over the machine so that is a great improvement in my book.

 

[CL810]

I would like to hear how the filters hold up. I spoke with them a while back and, IF my memory is right, they told me they would have to be replaced every 6-12 months. Hope you can post a follow up down the road.

 

[whope]

I would like to hear how the filters hold up. I spoke with them a while back and, IF my memory is right, they told me they would have to be replaced every 6-12 months. Hope you can post a follow up down the road.

That would be pretty disappointing as they aren't cheap and would be a bit of a pain to replace. I will definitely follow-up if that is the case.

 

[Lazyman]

The filters appear to be similar to the other canister filters out there. If it truly does do a better job of separating the large chips and fine dust than other separators it seems like the filter would last longer.

 

[kelvancra]

With a collector that looks like that, who cares if it works. It's just dang purty.

 

[Mike_D_S]

I've been thinking about one of these units for the form factor and relative noise level, but I found it curious that slowing the unit down improved the separation?

Is this just an issue with that particular combination of tools or will high speed always generate a higher level of chip carry through the separation section? Have you tried it on high speed with other tools?

Thanks,
Mike

 

[whope]

It can seem counterintuitive. Think of it like chugging a glass of water. There's going to be a maximum on how fast you can take it in. If it came from a firehose, then you'd be overwhelmed.

But at some point, if the speed is too low it won't collect chips out of the machine. I'm finding 5500 is a good speed for the planer. But if I went to something wider than 8", I might want to dial it back some more. Right now, I'm experimenting. At least that's an option on this unit. Overloading may be less of an issue with an upright unit. Someone who has one of those might be able to speak to it.

I wouldn't ask the G700 to take chips from a jointer and a planer at the same time. Maybe one of those and my TS would be fine (although I don't have enough 220 to do that right now).

I have run it on the top speed from the Hammer, but the chip load from that is much lower & finer.

The manual recommends the highest speed when performing a self-cleaning, but I've found that if you overloaded the machine during use, it will overload it during cleaning.

I ve been thinking about one of these units for the form factor and relative noise level, but I found it curious that slowing the unit down improved the separation?

Is this just an issue with that particular combination of tools or will high speed always generate a higher level of chip carry through the separation section? Have you tried it on high speed with other tools?

Thanks,
Mike

- MikeDS

 

[whope]

If you're thinking about getting a unit, get on their mailing list and visit the G700 webpage occasionally. I would occasionally get an offer on a price between $2100 & $2200, which is when I ordered it.

 

[Mike_D_S]

Appreciate the review and information. I went back and spent some time looking at the unit again thinking about the way it works.

It makes some sense that higher airflow (i.e. higher speed) could entrain more chips into the second stage as the initial double cone separation has a low axial component, so you're essentially relying on inertia as the chips displace around the initial cone to overcome the pull of air back into the second stage. Then in the second stage you are getting the strong axial component as the air comes across the vanes and strong rotation is created.

Now that you've been using it, what is the fine dust collection like in the second bag? When running a table saw, etc are you getting a good catch on the fine "flour" dust in the second bag?

One more question is whether the primary intake has any kind of baffle on it to prevent ingestion of large scrap? I'm not worried about the primary fan, but it looks like a pain to take apart to retrieve a large piece of scrap too big to get through the centrifugal section.

Thanks,
Mike

 

[Lazyman]

My assumption is that since gravity is constant (9.8m/s/s) and responsible for separating the deflected chips in the first section, if the flow is too strong (fast?) it will cause more and larger pieces to be swept into the second cyclone section before gravity can do its job in the first.

In the first picture of the OP, you can see that the intake has a grate to prevent extra large piece from making it to the impeller. My concern with that is that those grates can get clogged when used with a planer for example. They probably have a reason but I wonder why they didn't put the impeller after the separator?

 

[Mike_D_S]

Missed the grate in the pic.

Interesting thought about the blower position relative to the separator section. From a ducting perspective the blower in front is probably the simplest. In the rear would mean a more complex ducting path I think.

 

[whope]

This is from my second bag full:

There is some overflow of chips. I've been doing a lot of jointer/planer work and not so much TS. If anything shows up in later emptyings, I'll post it here.

 

[Lazyman]

That looks pretty promising, Whope. How does the filter clean out look after that?