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I am incensed when I see one of my newbie Lumberjocks on the forums that are considering a new Table Saw and one of their TS they are considering is a Ridgid R4512..

I will never stop my campaign to tell people to NOT WALK AWAY from anything RIDGID ORANGE but to RUN for their lives away from this omnipotent, colossal, complete and borderline criminal train wreck of a $500 TS!

Every one! Every damn one of any critical Specifications are a complete abortion! Every damn one!

Every damn critical part, measurement and situation is a disaster!

NOW one does not accidentally make a product this much of a complete train wreck. This kind of product must only come from doing this on purpose. It can't happen because or laziness or over site or a board membership high on cocaine all day long. ONE has to specifically make all these abortions come together in a TR-FECTA from hell.

DO your self a favor and NEVER NEVER EVER consider any tool from RIDGID!
 

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DO your self a favor and NEVER NEVER EVER consider any tool from RIDGID!

and all i've ever had with ridgid tools (power hand and stationary tools), with the exception of the 4512, has been great performance and outstanding service. however, given the number of unfavorable posts on this and other forums relating to the 4512, it certainly seems to be a "caveat emptor" purchase at best.
 

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I am incensed when I see one of my newbie Lumberjocks on the forums that are considering a new Table Saw and one of their TS they are considering is a Ridgid R4512..

I will never stop my campaign to tell people to NOT WALK AWAY from anything RIDGID ORANGE but to RUN for their lives away from this omnipotent, colossal, complete and borderline criminal train wreck of a $500 TS!

Every one! Every damn one of any critical Specifications are a complete abortion! Every damn one!

Every damn critical part, measurement and situation is a disaster!

NOW one does not accidentally make a product this much of a complete train wreck. This kind of product must only come from doing this on purpose. It can t happen because or laziness or over site or a board membership high on cocaine all day long. ONE has to specifically make all these abortions come together in a TR-FECTA from hell.

DO your self a favor and NEVER NEVER EVER consider any tool from RIDGID!

- Garbanzolasvegas
Perhaps it is either time to get your own cable news program and rant and rave at your leisure, or get over it and move on with life. I think we all appreciated your comments way back when you gave your the first few. However, any time I come to this site now, I fully expect to see more of your same bad experiences with rigid products. It happened, I would be upset if i were in your situation, but life is too short, move on, go make some sawdust!
 

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I will never stop my campaign to tell people to NOT WALK AWAY from anything RIDGID ORANGE but to RUN for their lives away from this omnipotent, colossal, complete and borderline criminal train wreck of a $500 TS!
- Garbanzolasvegas
We tell you to walk away from LJ's every day but you don't listen. What makes you think people take you serious?

Ridgid has perfectly functional tools, I'm sorry you got your lemon of the TS. Time to step off the soap box and focus on something that will make your life better. The venom you spew on this site isin't good for you or anyone reading what you illegibly write.

Paul
 

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I am incensed when I see one of my newbie Lumberjocks on the forums that are considering a new Table Saw and one of their TS they are considering is a Ridgid R4512..

I will never stop my campaign to tell people to NOT WALK AWAY from anything RIDGID ORANGE but to RUN for their lives away from this omnipotent, colossal, complete and borderline criminal train wreck of a $500 TS!

Every one! Every damn one of any critical Specifications are a complete abortion! Every damn one!

Every damn critical part, measurement and situation is a disaster!

NOW one does not accidentally make a product this much of a complete train wreck. This kind of product must only come from doing this on purpose. It can t happen because or laziness or over site or a board membership high on cocaine all day long. ONE has to specifically make all these abortions come together in a TR-FECTA from hell.

DO your self a favor and NEVER NEVER EVER consider any tool from RIDGID!

- Garbanzolasvegas

Perhaps it is either time to get your own cable news program and rant and rave at your leisure, or get over it and move on with life. I think we all appreciated your comments way back when you gave your the first few. However, any time I come to this site now, I fully expect to see more of your same bad experiences with rigid products. It happened, I would be upset if i were in your situation, but life is too short, move on, go make some sawdust!

- IHRedRules
Now there's a thought
 

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I have used only one Ridgid tool extensively in woodworking, and that is the 12" slider. It is one of two mitre saws owned by my woodworking club, and it gets used and abused. It is a powerful saw that maintains, in spite of the abuse, dead-on accuracy.

I'm on the fence as to whether or not to add a SCMS to my home shop. If I do, the Ridgid will be at the top of my short list. And, if I do go with the Ridgid, I'll be sure to opt into the free Lifetime Service Agreement.
 

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I was happy with my R4512. Learned a lot of skills and built some nice projects in the year I had it. There were some limitations, but I worked around them. I sold it a couple weeks ago within two hours of listing it and had another four inquiries the first day on CL. The reality is that many beginning woodworkers can't justify spending more on a nicer table saw, or don't want to buy used for whatever reason. The $500-$600 saws at the big box stores fill this need with modest capabilities. If someone has the budget and skills to justify an upgrade, then there are a lot of good options out there, like the PCS sitting on the crate in my garage right now!
 

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I LOVE my Ridgid EB4424 Oscillating Spindle Belt Sander!!!



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I have this sander as well and think highly of it. Has fit all my needs well.

I also have a ridgid jointer and planer. Jointer has made me very happy with the purchase. The planer is the old 2 knife version that is ok but not the model I plan to have forever. Good intro planer though.
 

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I actually can take both sides here.

As an apprentice engineer I had a great idea. I went to the VP of R&D and told him. He just looked at me and said "Steve" (Thats my name, Steve) "I can make a vacuum" (We made vacuum cleaners-Oreck) "That will never die."

"hummm, Ok, why dont you?"

"The windings in the motor would be gold."

I turned around and walked out of the office, now well understanding a lesson in engineering and what would later be basic Econ. If you want a car without motorized windows, they will make it. Supply and demand. You pay for quality. If you buy a Caddy, you can expect it to run for quite some time at high performance.

As a wood worker: Run, dont walk, away from this saw. Use your 5 bills to search on CL for a good Caddy of a saw that has been used before. No, I dont understand why one would spend that much on a anchor while there is a delta unisaw ( https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/for/4875099864.html ) that can be had for 500. Yes, it says 600 but I bought his jointer and he told me he would take 500. Honestly, be smart about your cash and your future with a saw. This, again, is called "time preference". Do you prefer to get a bad saw now for 500 or wait and spend time looking to get a good saw later. Basic econ, people.
 

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I'm on my second Rigid oscillating sander, the first one having lasted 12 years, and was actually still running, albeit weakly.
I have three of the Rigid 12 volt small drills, and love them and the batteries last a long time, and the power is great.
I own the R4512, version two of the trunion, and it has been a fairly good saw, save for the C clip that fell off the raise/lower worm, which I fixed myself with a better clip.
I also owned a Rigid planer for about 11 years, and only stopped using it when I bought a spiralhead planer from Grizzly. The Rigid was still running strong, and I sold it for 1/3 of what I paid for it, outstanding for an 11 year old lunch box planer.

So overall, do I have any gripes with Rigid?
Well, I am not in love with their ROS units, and when given the choice between the DeWalt hand held trim router vs. the Rigid small router, I pick the DeWalt every time. (I own both.) But overall, my experience over the last decade plus has been pretty good in my mind.
Oh, and I HATE that red sandpaper for ROS units with all the little holes in it.
 

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I actually can take both sides here…
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I think most reasonable people can. I don't blame anyone for being upset by a bum tool purchase, but post (or SCREAM) one side of that argument 274 more times over the next few months while posting very little else of substance, and see how many supporters are left on your bandwagon. There comes a time when you just need to live with your decision and move on to greener pastures.
 

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I have the 1551 drill press and the oscillating sander and I owned a 4512 and had zero problems with any of them the 4512 I owned had no alignment or arbor issues and didn't deflect when I raised and lowered the blade.

Maybe I'm just lucky?
 

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Paul, how do you know if a version of the saw is version 1 or two? I have a coworker who will be buying a new saw, and this is what fits their budget. They absolutely do not want used and are not open to that idea. This seems to be the better choice between it and the Delta in this price range.
 

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jmartel: They stamped a II or 2 on the trunion, from what I've read here. (Can't remember.) I don't know if there was any "past this serial number" declaration. As far as I know, Rigid has never openly admitted to the problem.

One theory that seems to have some legs - the saw is shipped upside down, so the motor is putting downward pressure on the single bolt flange that is on the top when the saw is upright. It is also the bolt that is used for belt tightening, I believe. If the box was dropped, the motor could have shifted downward, (upward when standing upright), bending that single tab. When you flip it upright, the motor shifts downward due to the bent bolt flange, and you get space between the top of the worm gear and the trunion.

This causes the worm gear that is mounted to the motor to become separated from the main trunion, but only at the rear and when upright, towards the top of the gear. So when you raise the blade, it moves into that space and the blade assembly shifts.

You can see it all clearly in this YouTube video. He seems to have discovered the problem, but is asking how to fix it. He actually adds a shim that seems to cure the problem. It is interesting, if nothing else.

Somehow they changed the trunion over time and my saw, at least, has never had a movement problem when raising/lowering.
 

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I think most reasonable people can. I don't blame anyone for being upset by a bum tool purchase, but post (or SCREAM) one side of that argument 274 more times over the next few months while posting very little else of substance, and see how many supporters are left on your bandwagon. There comes a time when you just need to live with your decision and move on to greener pastures.
 
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