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Quest for "Flat"

So, I'm just starting to learn woodworking. I've wanted to learn woodworking since I was much younger… The thought of building my own computer desk someday has secretly lingered in the back of my mind for many years.

Recently, I was given the task of building shelving for a storage building to store most of my stuff (I share a house with my in-laws… ick). For fathers day, my wife bought me a cheap Ryobi router table from Home Depot. I've always wanted a router table, so I used this gift as a sort of 'jumping off point' to launch myself into learning about woodworking.

I already have a table saw. It's actually my father-in-law's, but he's letting me play with it for whatever I want to do with it… So, I figured with a table saw and a router table, I have everything I need to start building stuff! Then I learned something important. Sigh.

I found the Wood Whisperer's website and went back and started watching his videos. I very quickly learned that getting boards FLAT is a critical priority at the start of any good project. Crap! I don't have a jointer. But, I learned that I actually sort of have a mini-jointer in the router table. So, I decided to start trying to see if I can joint at least the side of a board with it. Then, I realized what makes a cheap router table so cheap - Plastic Parts.

As it turns out, the fence on my router table is NOT absolutely flat, because it's made of injection molded plastic. Sigh… But wait, plastic can be flat too.. I just have to sand it flat. So, I bought some sand paper, and decided to sand the fence flat. I needed a reference flat surface, and as it turns out, the surface of the router table itself is flat enough to sand against.

Many years ago, I had to flatten another surface. I had an AMD CPU for my computer, and I wanted to over-clock it, so I had to lap the surface perfectly flat to mate with a heat-sink. That worked so well that the chip and the heat-sink actually stuck together as if they were glued together - when I lifted one off the table, the other came with it simply due to the vacuum between the two pieces. So, I figured I could do it again for my table fence.

So, tonight, I spent an hour lapping the plastic pieces of my router table fence. Sadly, it will take even longer to get the surfaces perfectly flat. Both sides of the fence were warped enough that lapping flat has taken a very long time. I hope to get both parts flat soon. (I only get about an hour at a time in the shop before I get interupted by family… sigh)


Here I am lapping part of the fence flat.


Here you can see the little bit on the bottom edge that still isn't flat.


Maybe I'm cheap, but I find that if I clean the dust out of the sandpaper, I can reuse a piece of it for a long time.

Thanks for reading
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Quest for "Flat"

So, I'm just starting to learn woodworking. I've wanted to learn woodworking since I was much younger… The thought of building my own computer desk someday has secretly lingered in the back of my mind for many years.

Recently, I was given the task of building shelving for a storage building to store most of my stuff (I share a house with my in-laws… ick). For fathers day, my wife bought me a cheap Ryobi router table from Home Depot. I've always wanted a router table, so I used this gift as a sort of 'jumping off point' to launch myself into learning about woodworking.

I already have a table saw. It's actually my father-in-law's, but he's letting me play with it for whatever I want to do with it… So, I figured with a table saw and a router table, I have everything I need to start building stuff! Then I learned something important. Sigh.

I found the Wood Whisperer's website and went back and started watching his videos. I very quickly learned that getting boards FLAT is a critical priority at the start of any good project. Crap! I don't have a jointer. But, I learned that I actually sort of have a mini-jointer in the router table. So, I decided to start trying to see if I can joint at least the side of a board with it. Then, I realized what makes a cheap router table so cheap - Plastic Parts.

As it turns out, the fence on my router table is NOT absolutely flat, because it's made of injection molded plastic. Sigh… But wait, plastic can be flat too.. I just have to sand it flat. So, I bought some sand paper, and decided to sand the fence flat. I needed a reference flat surface, and as it turns out, the surface of the router table itself is flat enough to sand against.

Many years ago, I had to flatten another surface. I had an AMD CPU for my computer, and I wanted to over-clock it, so I had to lap the surface perfectly flat to mate with a heat-sink. That worked so well that the chip and the heat-sink actually stuck together as if they were glued together - when I lifted one off the table, the other came with it simply due to the vacuum between the two pieces. So, I figured I could do it again for my table fence.

So, tonight, I spent an hour lapping the plastic pieces of my router table fence. Sadly, it will take even longer to get the surfaces perfectly flat. Both sides of the fence were warped enough that lapping flat has taken a very long time. I hope to get both parts flat soon. (I only get about an hour at a time in the shop before I get interupted by family… sigh)


Here I am lapping part of the fence flat.


Here you can see the little bit on the bottom edge that still isn't flat.


Maybe I'm cheap, but I find that if I clean the dust out of the sandpaper, I can reuse a piece of it for a long time.

Thanks for reading
We all started somewhere. Hang in there. Welcome to lumberjocks..
Quest for "Flat"

So, I'm just starting to learn woodworking. I've wanted to learn woodworking since I was much younger… The thought of building my own computer desk someday has secretly lingered in the back of my mind for many years.

Recently, I was given the task of building shelving for a storage building to store most of my stuff (I share a house with my in-laws… ick). For fathers day, my wife bought me a cheap Ryobi router table from Home Depot. I've always wanted a router table, so I used this gift as a sort of 'jumping off point' to launch myself into learning about woodworking.

I already have a table saw. It's actually my father-in-law's, but he's letting me play with it for whatever I want to do with it… So, I figured with a table saw and a router table, I have everything I need to start building stuff! Then I learned something important. Sigh.

I found the Wood Whisperer's website and went back and started watching his videos. I very quickly learned that getting boards FLAT is a critical priority at the start of any good project. Crap! I don't have a jointer. But, I learned that I actually sort of have a mini-jointer in the router table. So, I decided to start trying to see if I can joint at least the side of a board with it. Then, I realized what makes a cheap router table so cheap - Plastic Parts.

As it turns out, the fence on my router table is NOT absolutely flat, because it's made of injection molded plastic. Sigh… But wait, plastic can be flat too.. I just have to sand it flat. So, I bought some sand paper, and decided to sand the fence flat. I needed a reference flat surface, and as it turns out, the surface of the router table itself is flat enough to sand against.

Many years ago, I had to flatten another surface. I had an AMD CPU for my computer, and I wanted to over-clock it, so I had to lap the surface perfectly flat to mate with a heat-sink. That worked so well that the chip and the heat-sink actually stuck together as if they were glued together - when I lifted one off the table, the other came with it simply due to the vacuum between the two pieces. So, I figured I could do it again for my table fence.

So, tonight, I spent an hour lapping the plastic pieces of my router table fence. Sadly, it will take even longer to get the surfaces perfectly flat. Both sides of the fence were warped enough that lapping flat has taken a very long time. I hope to get both parts flat soon. (I only get about an hour at a time in the shop before I get interupted by family… sigh)


Here I am lapping part of the fence flat.


Here you can see the little bit on the bottom edge that still isn't flat.


Maybe I'm cheap, but I find that if I clean the dust out of the sandpaper, I can reuse a piece of it for a long time.

Thanks for reading
You have approached this problem in an interesting way. However, You really do need to find a way to purchase a good jointer. As you said, if your pieces are not straight and true, the frustration can only get worse as you fight the problem at every step of your project. When I first got my jointer, the quality of my woodworking moved northward. Just as importantly, I then really started to enjoy my work because I no longer spent the whole project fighting the crooked pieces of wood! Good luck.
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New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



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New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



COngrats on the New to be Restored jointer.

The way to go. Glad wives are so , so , so loving and understanding.

I´m on a way to restore myself. will search for my manual as well

BTW, I learned a lot in LJ.
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



Great score! You can't compare a 6" that is made today to that iron. What Era do you figure it was built? 40's ? I picked up a Craftman 6 in. that looks to be maybe about 10 years newer for $75.00. Big heavy, cast iron. It took two people grunting and groaning to get it into the back of my pick up. It works like a dream. I love it.
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



Great buy… have fun cleaning it up.. enjoy the journey as much as the destination.
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



Great find!

My dad had one just like that.

Have fun and…

Be Careful!

Herb
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



now -now that cuold with a little albowgrease and evaprorust or electrolysis
bee a buty in your shop
and your wife is maybee more understandeble than you first think..lol
after all she drowe with you out in the nowheresland and let you bring home a pile of rust

take care
Dennis
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



Good score !
Keep taking photos of your restoration of this tool, cool to follow along.
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



I'll give you $40 for it! $5 clear profit! ;)

Congrats. Those older Craftsman jointers are nearly bullet proof. Your grandkids will end up using this thing.
New Toy!

Wow, so much can change in just 24 hours. (yeah, i'm going to pretend I wrote this last night hehehe)

So, yesterday, I was slaving over a hot sheet of sand paper trying to lap the plastic parts of the fence on my newly gifted router table, in hopes of being able to use it as a mini jointer to make at least some little flat boards…

Well, today, I spent a little time looking at Craig's list for Charlotte NC, and found an add for "Millwork tool" including a "Craftsman 6 in jointer $35". That was all the description there was. Notice the lack of important keywords such as woodworking, lumber, machine, power, etc. So, I got the feeling this might be one of those rare deals where the seller isn't quite sure what he's selling… or at least what it should be worth. He probably didn't get many calls.

So, I hopped in my mini-van and drove out to what seemed like the middle of nowhere. As I was driving, I kept pondering "what are the chances this thing is going to be a biscuit joiner and not really a joinTer?" Alas, the ad said "6 in" so I figured it had to be real. and for $35? serious?

Well, I arrived and got a look at this piece of equipment. At first, my heart sank. "What a piece of crap!" "I can't work with that thing, it's a giant chunk of rust!" were the phrases that went through my mind.

But, then I got to thinking… "Wait a minute… what am I looking at here?" and "We're only talking about $35 bucks here… I spent more on a copy of Starcraft 2 for my kid" started going through my mind.

Luckily, I had brought my trusty combination square. I trust it to be reference flat, as I can hold it up to a piece of glass and it sits perfectly. So, I laid the square on the in-feed and out-feed tables to check for flatness. I had to brush away some of the dust and rust, but my trusty square sat true. Under that rust is a perfectly flat, not-warped mass of cast iron from a day when tools could be passed down from father to son to grandson, and so-on.

So, I bought it. Loaded it into my van. And Drove it home.

Now, I'll admit I'm cheap. I try to get away with spending as little as possible on my hobbies. It's especially important to be cheap when it comes to having inlaws who are constantly nagging about not spending money, and wife who isn't quite yet taking this hobby seriously. So as I was driving home, I kept thinking to myself "Am I being TOO cheap? A new jointer would have only been a few hundred bucks…"

Well, as I drove, I pulled out my iPhone and started googling "Restore antique jointer". To my surprise, I found articles not only about restoring jointers, but actually about restoring Craftsman jointers of same era, and actually almost the exact same model. I also found the original owner's manual online. It seems that restoring this thing is actually not only possible, but very likely to yield forth a fantastic tool once the rust and grime have been dissolved away.

As we drove, my wife called a friend and I overheard her mentioning that her husband now has a new project to work on that will keep him out in the shop. I guess that's kinda true ;)

So, without further ado, I present to y'all my latest acquisition, an antique Craftsman 6" Jointer, complete with 3/4 hp motor.

Edit: I've moved all the photos, and the links broke, so I'm fixing them.



Yeah, pictures! I love watching old arn being restored.

If OWWM was not the site you found, let me recommend it. You'll see a lot of "sad bastards" that looked worse than yours and cleaned up real nice!
What I've been up to

I probably should have written more often. Sorry 'bout that.

So, when I last posted, I mentioned the new toy - an antique Craftsman 6" jointer. Sadly, it's sitting in a corner collecting (saw)dust.

I ordered a bottle of Evapo-Rust, which has arrived, and I played with it a little. I put a rusty box knife blade in a teacup with some of the stuff, and it did pull the rust off of it, after 30 hours… And it did pull quite a bit of carbon out of the rust, and coated the entire blade with a dark grey soot-like coating, which rubbed of easily with a shop-towel. There is still much pitting where the rust was.

This makes me worry somewhat about removing the rust from the jointer… I hope the tables aren't pitted too much. I do realize, however, that it has to be done either way. The rust has to come off, and this stuff, Evapo-Rust can do it. I just need to gasp take the jointer apart, and give it's pieces a bath. Sadly, that means I'll have to reassemble the jointer, which means I'll need to reTUNE the jointer, which I don't know if I'm quite ready for yet. I need a long, trusted straightedge, and I don't have on yet. I am very tempted to get a few dial indicators to measure thousandths of an inch, since they seem to be obtainable from Amazon without too much money… and the guy at Woodgears.ca seems to use a lot of them in his jigs.

Wow, the jigs that guy makes! Holy $#!+... Are those amazing or what??!? I mean, just look at THIS ONE and THIS ONE!!! Those are awesome.. I never thought to make a jig so tall, but why not?

Anyway… moving on.

So, my daughter's birthday is coming up soon. And it hit me that I was supposed to make her a dollhouse. Either I or my wife had bought a kit a few years ago, a dollhouse kit made out of wood. It's very thin plywood, and all the pieces are pre-cut punch-out style, so it doesn't feel like doing woodworking… But, it IS wood, and it DOES need to get done. So, I stopped working on the jointer project for now, and set up my workshop to begin construction and painting of this dollhouse. So far, it's been all punching out extremely rough cut pieces and sanding, over and over, but I'm sure I'll get to the painting and gluing part soon. I'll post some pics when I have them.

So that's where I am.
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What I've been up to

I probably should have written more often. Sorry 'bout that.

So, when I last posted, I mentioned the new toy - an antique Craftsman 6" jointer. Sadly, it's sitting in a corner collecting (saw)dust.

I ordered a bottle of Evapo-Rust, which has arrived, and I played with it a little. I put a rusty box knife blade in a teacup with some of the stuff, and it did pull the rust off of it, after 30 hours… And it did pull quite a bit of carbon out of the rust, and coated the entire blade with a dark grey soot-like coating, which rubbed of easily with a shop-towel. There is still much pitting where the rust was.

This makes me worry somewhat about removing the rust from the jointer… I hope the tables aren't pitted too much. I do realize, however, that it has to be done either way. The rust has to come off, and this stuff, Evapo-Rust can do it. I just need to gasp take the jointer apart, and give it's pieces a bath. Sadly, that means I'll have to reassemble the jointer, which means I'll need to reTUNE the jointer, which I don't know if I'm quite ready for yet. I need a long, trusted straightedge, and I don't have on yet. I am very tempted to get a few dial indicators to measure thousandths of an inch, since they seem to be obtainable from Amazon without too much money… and the guy at Woodgears.ca seems to use a lot of them in his jigs.

Wow, the jigs that guy makes! Holy $#!+... Are those amazing or what??!? I mean, just look at THIS ONE and THIS ONE!!! Those are awesome.. I never thought to make a jig so tall, but why not?

Anyway… moving on.

So, my daughter's birthday is coming up soon. And it hit me that I was supposed to make her a dollhouse. Either I or my wife had bought a kit a few years ago, a dollhouse kit made out of wood. It's very thin plywood, and all the pieces are pre-cut punch-out style, so it doesn't feel like doing woodworking… But, it IS wood, and it DOES need to get done. So, I stopped working on the jointer project for now, and set up my workshop to begin construction and painting of this dollhouse. So far, it's been all punching out extremely rough cut pieces and sanding, over and over, but I'm sure I'll get to the painting and gluing part soon. I'll post some pics when I have them.

So that's where I am.
I hope you can make good progress on the jointer once you've got your daughter's doll house assembled.
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More on the dollhouse

Well, a few more days have gone by, do I thought I'd post another entry here.

Last time, I mentioned the dollhouse kit that I need to build for my daughter. It's a nice little kit, but it comes with some very thin plywood that tears out every so easily when punching it out of it's frame… I've spent much time popping out the pieces and sanding the edges.

My wife bought some paint in the colors that we determined my daughter likes, but we still haven't come up with the color scheme plan yet. I'm not really certain that the colors make for a good house scheme, but she likes 'em, and she's gonna get 'em.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw up a post about it, and give y'all some pictures to look at, seeing as how noone seems to leave comments unless there's pictures. hehehe.


Here's the box the kit came in. The default color scheme should be helpful in trying to figure out what to do with my daughter's colors.


Here's the plans for the house. Nice step-by-step advice on how to get this thing together.


Here are the sheets of plywood before I started punching out the pieces.


Here's some work-in-progress shots of taking out the pieces and sanding them.


It's hard to get good help these days. Here's my helper

Once I'm done sanding, it will be time to paint. I have plenty of blue tape to protect the glue-able surfaces, so I'm going to paint before assembling, as I think it will give a better finished project. I'll post more pics when I get them.
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More on the dollhouse

Well, a few more days have gone by, do I thought I'd post another entry here.

Last time, I mentioned the dollhouse kit that I need to build for my daughter. It's a nice little kit, but it comes with some very thin plywood that tears out every so easily when punching it out of it's frame… I've spent much time popping out the pieces and sanding the edges.

My wife bought some paint in the colors that we determined my daughter likes, but we still haven't come up with the color scheme plan yet. I'm not really certain that the colors make for a good house scheme, but she likes 'em, and she's gonna get 'em.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw up a post about it, and give y'all some pictures to look at, seeing as how noone seems to leave comments unless there's pictures. hehehe.


Here's the box the kit came in. The default color scheme should be helpful in trying to figure out what to do with my daughter's colors.


Here's the plans for the house. Nice step-by-step advice on how to get this thing together.


Here are the sheets of plywood before I started punching out the pieces.


Here's some work-in-progress shots of taking out the pieces and sanding them.


It's hard to get good help these days. Here's my helper

Once I'm done sanding, it will be time to paint. I have plenty of blue tape to protect the glue-able surfaces, so I'm going to paint before assembling, as I think it will give a better finished project. I'll post more pics when I get them.
I am sure your daughter will love the doll house. What a great project to work on. My shop dog isn't much help either. Looking forward to seeing it finished.
More on the dollhouse

Well, a few more days have gone by, do I thought I'd post another entry here.

Last time, I mentioned the dollhouse kit that I need to build for my daughter. It's a nice little kit, but it comes with some very thin plywood that tears out every so easily when punching it out of it's frame… I've spent much time popping out the pieces and sanding the edges.

My wife bought some paint in the colors that we determined my daughter likes, but we still haven't come up with the color scheme plan yet. I'm not really certain that the colors make for a good house scheme, but she likes 'em, and she's gonna get 'em.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw up a post about it, and give y'all some pictures to look at, seeing as how noone seems to leave comments unless there's pictures. hehehe.


Here's the box the kit came in. The default color scheme should be helpful in trying to figure out what to do with my daughter's colors.


Here's the plans for the house. Nice step-by-step advice on how to get this thing together.


Here are the sheets of plywood before I started punching out the pieces.


Here's some work-in-progress shots of taking out the pieces and sanding them.


It's hard to get good help these days. Here's my helper

Once I'm done sanding, it will be time to paint. I have plenty of blue tape to protect the glue-able surfaces, so I'm going to paint before assembling, as I think it will give a better finished project. I'll post more pics when I get them.
Oh, don't get me wrong, my dog Jack is a GREAT helper! I come up with ideas, and he listens to them without being to critical. I have yet to hear one negative comment from him, so he really helps my self esteem.

He is a bit of an attention whore though.
More on the dollhouse

Well, a few more days have gone by, do I thought I'd post another entry here.

Last time, I mentioned the dollhouse kit that I need to build for my daughter. It's a nice little kit, but it comes with some very thin plywood that tears out every so easily when punching it out of it's frame… I've spent much time popping out the pieces and sanding the edges.

My wife bought some paint in the colors that we determined my daughter likes, but we still haven't come up with the color scheme plan yet. I'm not really certain that the colors make for a good house scheme, but she likes 'em, and she's gonna get 'em.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw up a post about it, and give y'all some pictures to look at, seeing as how noone seems to leave comments unless there's pictures. hehehe.


Here's the box the kit came in. The default color scheme should be helpful in trying to figure out what to do with my daughter's colors.


Here's the plans for the house. Nice step-by-step advice on how to get this thing together.


Here are the sheets of plywood before I started punching out the pieces.


Here's some work-in-progress shots of taking out the pieces and sanding them.


It's hard to get good help these days. Here's my helper

Once I'm done sanding, it will be time to paint. I have plenty of blue tape to protect the glue-able surfaces, so I'm going to paint before assembling, as I think it will give a better finished project. I'll post more pics when I get them.
Tess gives me the blank stare and then brings me her ball for me to throw. She has confused "what the hell am I going to do with this piece" with "get your ball" I step on her toes atleast three times a day. But she is always there to give some no judgemental advice.
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A bit of a diversion...

So, I just posted my entry about working on my daughter's dollhouse. Well, about halfway through that, I was interrupted when my wife commissioned me to actually make something out of wood with a purpose. The conversation went something like this:

Her: I need to stop at home depot and get some pvc pipe to make a thing for our son to store his swords.

Me: ... um… Or, I could make a sword rack out of wood.

Her: You're still not giving up on this woodworking tangent you're on, are you…

Me: I have some 2×4's I could use to build it!

Her: Oh, and I need you to do the dishes too…

Me: I saw a sword rack on LumberJocks that I could sort of copy!

Her: Don't forget to get the dishes from downstairs too.

That's pretty much out our conversations usually go.

Anyway, I went out to the workshop, and scooted all of the dollhouse stuff out of the way. Luckily, it was all spread out on some sheets of wood on saw-horses, so it was easy to stack up and tuck away.


So, my son gets quite a bit of joy out of his collection of toy swords, and they end up laying all over the place, and have no real home. So, I took two days in the middle of the dollhouse project and whipped up This:



It's all made from one 2×4 that I had in my shop. It's unfinished, but that's because I don't actually have any finish stuff yet. I'm still learning. I used what I think is the standard style with tenons through mortises and keys to pin them together. At least, I assume that's what they're all called. Hehehe.

Sadly, this isn't enough to hold all of the swords, and I'll need to build a second rack just like this one. But, I need to get the dollhouse done first, since my daughter's birthday is coming up fast.
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Restoring some old iron

So, yesterday, I spent more time working on my daughter's dollhouse. Damn, there are LOTS of little parts to sand. Wow.

Yeah, so there's that. But, I also did some work on my new big toy, the old 50's Craftsman 6" jointer. I was rusted all to heck, but I bought a bottle of Evapo-rust, and I have been soaking the parts in it.


This stuff kicks some ass! If you have rust you need to get rid of, get some of this stuff. It melts away. Plus, it's not an acid or caustic chemical, so you don't have to treat it like handling dangerous chemicals.

I've decided that I might try Electrolysis on the bigger parts. That said, I've also decided that evapo-rust will always be the way to go on small parts like screws and levers, but for a single large piece, I think electrolysis may be cheaper. I had soaked the fence of my jointer in the Evapo-rust, but I didn't have enough to get a full submersion, so I had to roll it around in the stuff for a few days. The other parts of the old iron jointer are even bigger, so it might be smarter for me to use a plastic trashcan and electrolysis for the bigger parts, if I really want to get all the rust off of them.

Fun stuff!

Oh, and I keep forgetting. I have this tree in my yard. It's been down for almost half the year so far, so I didn't really think about it much, but as I've gotten more and more into woodworking, I've started looking at this thing thinking about how I can get boards out of it. Here's some photos. The big log is about 3+ feet in diameter.




I've been told it was an oak, but I don't remember. I wasn't "into" woodworking before it came down. So, I have a few questions.

1) is it safe to assume this thing is NOT past it's prime for harvesting for lumber?
2) How do I find someone who can come to my yard and mill this thing into some boards for me? What do I look for in the yellowpages / CL ?

Thanks in advance for answers! What a fun journey this is so far!
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