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I just bought this planer from a guy who is retiring from his cabinet shop. This thing is so heavy! It seems to be built like a tank. Paid $250 for it. I need some assistance with finding a manual please. Also, do you guys think I got a good deal?
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Only problem is I can't find the king Machinery site. Maybe Delta bought them out? I'll have to call them to see I guess.
 

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I have an off branded 15" Delta clone planer as well. There are a number of companies with the same unit, wearing a different badge, though all the badges look almost the same, just different letters/words. All of the ones I am aware of had the 2HP motor, where the Detla DC 380 was 3HP. That was the condition which they were allowed to copy. Mine is sitting on the wheeled roller base from Delta, with the twin roller extension tables, fits like a glove, because it is.

BTW I have seen the 3HP Deltas, used to own one, and I can't tell an appreciable difference in what this lower HP unit can do.

The Owners manual can be copied here If you have the single phase variant it was the Delta model 22-680

A word about that site I linked to. You can completely view every page in the manual, however DO NOT hit the Download link, because it isn't about the download you want, it's some spamola BS from hell. It is entirely safe to go page to page, and copy them with a printer. I have used the same site for a number of other manuals, and have suffered no harm doing so. Actual downloads for the same pages cost about 35 bux online, and may. or may not be what is shown here.

As far as the deal, 250 is a really good price, if it is whole, and runs well. If you end up having to put a lot of parts/work into, well it may not be. I have an almost pristine model, with extra knives, and a setting jig, and I wouldn't take less than 500 for it. Compared to a 500+ DeWalley 735, it will eat it's lunch, and a few snacks, burp, and continue eating till that DeWalley is gone.
 

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Congratulations on planer.
Will buy most any 15" planer I see for $250 instantly. A full rebuild with all new bearings/seals only costs $150. Even a new out-feed roller is only $85. They sell for $600-650 in new rebuilt condition. So it's hard to lose money when you get them cheap.

King Usa is defunct import company formally located in Florida back in 90's. You won't find much information on any of their tools. Pretty sure the King crown trademark was bought at bankruptcy auction and moved to Canada. It's also confusing that there is a King Machinery in Taiwan and one in China. :-0)
Figured this out awhile back when I wanted information on King Bandsaw. LOL

Your King looks identical to the DC-380 PN 22-680 that I rebuilt. Delta sold the base separate, and there were several different model numbers within 'DC-380' family depending on configuration of base.

Delta DC-380 came in both 2HP and 3HP versions. Majority I have seen with top mounted motor were 2HP. Can always tell the motor HP on Delta by base configuration. The cheaper open bases like your 4 legged base were 2HP, the beefier looking wrap wound stamp steel bases were later model 3HP.

There are numerous posts on LJ about commonality of Asian made 15" planers. So don't limit your searches to just King, but look at all 15" planer posts. :-0)

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King Canada Has been around importing Taiwan copies for a very long time. I have a King drill press that I bought in 1989 and they had been around a while then.

A couple of years ago I rebuilt a Delta DC-380, all of the copies I have seen are 2 HP, I have seen quite a few DC-380's and they were all 3 HP, as is mine.

The rebuild went fine but I couldn't find a supplier for the elevation screw I ordered the King elevation screw and it fit fine.

The full rebuild is on my blog. Here is the picture of it cleaned up after the trip home, but before starting the rebuild.

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In this picture rebuild done ready to work.

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So how well did it go? For a test run, I started out with this 2 X 6, after a couple of passes on the jointer to flatten one side.

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The results after 3 passes. I'll take that.

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Great finish and no snipe.

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Thank guys for your help! Hopefully I'll have time to go through all the info later and see what works best. I'll keep you posted!
 

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Carlos. I see yours is sporting the Delta stand with the fold-able in/outfeed roller tables too. By far the longest in, and out on a planer I have ever used. Adjusted correctly, they offer no snipe.

Yours is a site prettier than mine. I'll keep a pic of that to show someone when I sell mine, give them an idea. Mines in great shape, but has a really ugly dull gray paint.
 

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Yes Steve I like that long roller bed alot too. Good built in adjustment too, you don't see that on all the import copies. The paint could use a few touch ups, but I couldn't source a good match. The best I could do was what you see on the dust hood, but the planer wasn't to bad, so I didn't try very hard.
 

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Quick update on the planer. It's fixed! There was a knob on the right side which engages the rollers that was caked up in sawdust. After a good cleaning and oiling this thing runs like a champ! Now all I have to do is replace one blade and get the others sharpened. Touchdown! Again, thx so much for all the help and advice!
 

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Quick update on the planer. It s fixed! There was a knob on the right side which engages the rollers that was caked up in sawdust. After a good cleaning and oiling this thing runs like a champ! Now all I have to do is replace one blade and get the others sharpened. Touchdown! Again, thx so much for all the help and advice!

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I would heavily suggest then, after finding that it wasn't getting cleaned up by prior owner, that you follow owners manual, and do a thorough clean up first, then lube and change the gear oil (page 22). It's at the transfer box you were talking about.

These puppies will run forever, as long as you don't allow them to gum up, or grind down to metal dust. That and sharpening knives will keep you happy.

Speaking of the transfer case note on page 13, "CHANGE SPEEDS ONLY WHILE THE MOTOR IS RUNNING. DO NOT CHANGE SPEEDS WHILE PLANING."

I think if you do it wrong it turns into a 1400 pound Gorilla, and kicks yer azz.

Having good gear grease, and fluids allow all of that to happen a lot easier.
 

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Update!!
So I've run into another problem with this bad boy. Aargh….
It needs new sprockets and a new chain. The larger sprockets have 27 teeth with a 3/8" pitch. For the life of me, I cannot find even one replacement sprocket from a supplier that has 27 teeth.
 

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If the feed roller shafts are same OD as other clones, might be able to swap out all 3 sprockets, and both chains?

Grizzly g1021/g1033, Jet/Powermatic, and Delta DC-380 cloned Taiwan made planers use a 17mm shaft with ~5mm key for feed roller sprockets. The two large sprockets are 31T. Only know as I have some abused feed rollers on hand, and Powermatic machine torn down with gear box open for repairs with Grizzly parts right now.

Be sure to check the 'good' chain for stretch wear, and replace if oversize. IME - If one chain is worn/stretched to the point it broke teeth off sprockets, then both chains and all 3 sprockets probably need replaced. YMMV

IMHO - The Taiwan 4 post planers have design weakness in the feed roller drive chain/sprockets, especially the out feed roller. Early machines do not have a chain tensioner on the chain from drive sprocket to out feed roller. When the chain wears/stretches; it fails by dropping the chain and typically ripping teeth off one or more of the sprockets. Not a pretty failure. To avoid future issues, have retro-fit a Delta and Powermatic 15" planer with 2nd tensioner, using ~$20 in parts from Grizzly G1021/G1033 spare parts.

Best Luck!
 
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