Have you considered an Edge Sander 6"x80" or larger. Of the woodworking machines I have, it's the second most used machine next to the table saw. I also use it for jointing.
I have the Okay to get 2 new tools and 1 accessory
The Power that is my Wife has decided to placate my perceived need to finish my workshop tool list. There are two tools and an upgrade I'm looking to get.
1. Bandsaw - I have a 16" jointer/planer, so I'm thinking an 18" would be a good fit for resawing big stock and panels that I can still point & plane.
2. Drum Sander - I'll be doing a lot of Frame and Panel construction in cabinets and furniture. A lot of cabinet makers I've spoken with say they couldn't get buy w/o their drum sander. My j/p is pretty big, but it's not big enough or the right tool for flattening panels. Of course, if you make them well enough, they don't need to be flattened, but I'm not Mark or Norm.
3. (the accessory) - I would like a helical head for my Jointer/Planer. I work with a lot of highly figured hard woods. As sharp as new Tersa knives are, there's still some tear-out, even when the feed speed is at it's lowest setting.
4. (not approved but on the list next - A replacement for my Frankin-Collector and ducts. My setup works well enough, but I'd like more and better capacity.
5. A bigger garage, but that's definitely out of my price range.
Justifications: Do I really need any? My wife said I could. This just doesn't happen!
Really, I'm building a new kitchen, all new furniture for my home, and my parents are preparing the rebuild of an log cabin from the early 1800's. We took it down in the early '80's. I helped then, as a kid. I should be more help now as an adult who wants to build period reproductions. Needless to say, I'll use modern and not period tools. Finally, I spend all day, nearly every day, typing away as a Data Architect. The only selfish escapes I have are, Diving (which I can't really do in Indiana), mowing my grass (Thank You Spring!), and the satisfaction I get from woodworking.
I imagine I'm not unlike most of you. We all probably have a wish list and ideas of what we'd get if our better halves gave us the okay. I've been window shopping for several years now. But, I thought I it would be informative and just fun to throw it out there to see what's on your lists and why. I'm an expert in my field, Data. I'm proficient, but by no means am I a expert, professional, or extremely experienced in my passion for woodworking. I have a lot to learn, and I'm asking you all to please school me in tool selection, the why(s), and most importantly, having fun with the process. In the end, More Knowledge = Better Options. More Knowledge + Better Options-> Better Choices. Hopefully the sum of * = Less Regret!
Major Tools in Shop:
1. 10" Prof Cab TS
2. 16" J/P
3. Festool Domino 500 (only Festool in the inventory)
4. Router Table & Router
5. Plunge Router
6. Palm Router
7. 6" RO Sander
8. Pneumatic Nailer
9. Chisels
10. Shoulder, Jack, & Rabbit Planes
11. Dovetail Saw
12. Bench Drill Press (I may upgrade this, eventually)
13. Most of the necessary had tools (not great, but good enough)
14. Good measuring devices (Calipers, Squares, Depth & Height Gauges, T's, Tapes, Feelers, Machinists Rules (3" - 4'), etc…)
What am I missing? What's on your list(s) and Why?
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1. Bandsaw - I have a 16" jointer/planer, so I'm thinking an 18" would be a good fit for resawing big stock and panels that I can still point & plane.
2. Drum Sander - I'll be doing a lot of Frame and Panel construction in cabinets and furniture. A lot of cabinet makers I've spoken with say they couldn't get buy w/o their drum sander. My j/p is pretty big, but it's not big enough or the right tool for flattening panels. Of course, if you make them well enough, they don't need to be flattened, but I'm not Mark or Norm.
3. (the accessory) - I would like a helical head for my Jointer/Planer. I work with a lot of highly figured hard woods. As sharp as new Tersa knives are, there's still some tear-out, even when the feed speed is at it's lowest setting.
4. (not approved but on the list next - A replacement for my Frankin-Collector and ducts. My setup works well enough, but I'd like more and better capacity.
5. A bigger garage, but that's definitely out of my price range.
Justifications: Do I really need any? My wife said I could. This just doesn't happen!
Really, I'm building a new kitchen, all new furniture for my home, and my parents are preparing the rebuild of an log cabin from the early 1800's. We took it down in the early '80's. I helped then, as a kid. I should be more help now as an adult who wants to build period reproductions. Needless to say, I'll use modern and not period tools. Finally, I spend all day, nearly every day, typing away as a Data Architect. The only selfish escapes I have are, Diving (which I can't really do in Indiana), mowing my grass (Thank You Spring!), and the satisfaction I get from woodworking.I imagine I'm not unlike most of you. We all probably have a wish list and ideas of what we'd get if our better halves gave us the okay. I've been window shopping for several years now. But, I thought I it would be informative and just fun to throw it out there to see what's on your lists and why. I'm an expert in my field, Data. I'm proficient, but by no means am I a expert, professional, or extremely experienced in my passion for woodworking. I have a lot to learn, and I'm asking you all to please school me in tool selection, the why(s), and most importantly, having fun with the process. In the end, More Knowledge = Better Options. More Knowledge + Better Options-> Better Choices. Hopefully the sum of * = Less Regret!
Major Tools in Shop:
1. 10" Prof Cab TS
2. 16" J/P
3. Festool Domino 500 (only Festool in the inventory)
4. Router Table & Router
5. Plunge Router
6. Palm Router
7. 6" RO Sander
8. Pneumatic Nailer
9. Chisels
10. Shoulder, Jack, & Rabbit Planes
11. Dovetail Saw
12. Bench Drill Press (I may upgrade this, eventually)
13. Most of the necessary had tools (not great, but good enough)
14. Good measuring devices (Calipers, Squares, Depth & Height Gauges, T's, Tapes, Feelers, Machinists Rules (3" - 4'), etc…)
What am I missing? What's on your list(s) and Why?
THX-1,000K
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So, There's no question, I guess. I'm on the right path. The problem is that all the tools I was considering in 2019 cost $1000 dollars more due to "supply chain". My whole goal when shopping was to find a was that was better and cheaper than the "Gold Standard" Powermatic. I have nothing against PM. To the contrary, I really like their products. They are just VERY expensive. The PM BS I was looking at for comparison was the PM1800B for $5000. Now it's $6700.
I compared a lot of saws, and can see the prices from Sept. 2019 in the pic.
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My decision process was a breakdown the saw's specs, prices, and anecdotal tails from the web. If you have any tails to share, please share, as I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've been calling a lot of dealers, because they haven't all changed their prices from pre-covid days. I'm hoping, without success, to find a saw at the old prices.
I think I've settled on the Laguna Italian 18" HD MBAND185400. I'll also get the DriftMaster fence. I like the micro-adjuster. The price pre-covid was $3900, now it's up to $5300. It's definitely not cheap, but I think it's a good saw. Have any of you used the Italian? It's from Laguna's Industrial Division, not their consumer line. It's supposedly built by A.C.M. in Italy. I've read a lot of good things about it, and some issues with Laguna's customer service that seem to have been worked out. The only thing that stood out to me on comparison was that there's only one 4" dust port.
I'll mostly use it for resawing for bookcase panels and some logs, so I considered their 18 Resaw Master. The Resaw Master will take up to a 2" blade. It's only $200 more, but requires another set of guides to use smaller blades. I think the Resaw Master my be a little overkill. But, I don't know. Would the extra 3/4" make a massive difference in resawing? If so, I'm still game for an extra $200.
After this, I'll start looking into the Drum Sander. Thanks for the help.
I compared a lot of saws, and can see the prices from Sept. 2019 in the pic.
My decision process was a breakdown the saw's specs, prices, and anecdotal tails from the web. If you have any tails to share, please share, as I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've been calling a lot of dealers, because they haven't all changed their prices from pre-covid days. I'm hoping, without success, to find a saw at the old prices.
I think I've settled on the Laguna Italian 18" HD MBAND185400. I'll also get the DriftMaster fence. I like the micro-adjuster. The price pre-covid was $3900, now it's up to $5300. It's definitely not cheap, but I think it's a good saw. Have any of you used the Italian? It's from Laguna's Industrial Division, not their consumer line. It's supposedly built by A.C.M. in Italy. I've read a lot of good things about it, and some issues with Laguna's customer service that seem to have been worked out. The only thing that stood out to me on comparison was that there's only one 4" dust port.
I'll mostly use it for resawing for bookcase panels and some logs, so I considered their 18 Resaw Master. The Resaw Master will take up to a 2" blade. It's only $200 more, but requires another set of guides to use smaller blades. I think the Resaw Master my be a little overkill. But, I don't know. Would the extra 3/4" make a massive difference in resawing? If so, I'm still game for an extra $200.
After this, I'll start looking into the Drum Sander. Thanks for the help.
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Thanks for sounding off. I appreciate your your view. I'm leaning towards holding off on the Drum Sander. I don't want to make cabinets for a living. I want to make furniture. That's just the next two projects. My kitchen flooded, and my parents are building a new +200 year old log cabin.
As for my cabinets, and the one's I'm going to make for my parent cabin, I just want to do them. I love colonial furniture. My parents have original stuff. I can only afford to make reproductions. Our whole family loves antiques, the look, history, and craftsmanship. At least I can strive for 3 of 4 with heirloom quality creations. The cabinets I'm looking to make are frame and panel construction. There will be no particle board. They'll be kind of a hybrid of furniture used as cabinets. The same construction methods will be used. When you see a simple wall cabinet hanging in the kitchen at Monticello, that's what I'll be making. It will be good hard wood and constructed in that fashion. The difference is, it will be ceiling high, 12" deep, +8' long, and have soft close hinges. The lower cabinets will be very much like long sideboards with solid tops. I don't know, but we like the idea, sketches and look. We'll see if it works in my kitchen first.
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At least that's the idea. My kitchen will look much more modern than the cabin's. As a REAL CABINET MAKER, you'll probably think I'm INSANE! LOL
As for my cabinets, and the one's I'm going to make for my parent cabin, I just want to do them. I love colonial furniture. My parents have original stuff. I can only afford to make reproductions. Our whole family loves antiques, the look, history, and craftsmanship. At least I can strive for 3 of 4 with heirloom quality creations. The cabinets I'm looking to make are frame and panel construction. There will be no particle board. They'll be kind of a hybrid of furniture used as cabinets. The same construction methods will be used. When you see a simple wall cabinet hanging in the kitchen at Monticello, that's what I'll be making. It will be good hard wood and constructed in that fashion. The difference is, it will be ceiling high, 12" deep, +8' long, and have soft close hinges. The lower cabinets will be very much like long sideboards with solid tops. I don't know, but we like the idea, sketches and look. We'll see if it works in my kitchen first.
At least that's the idea. My kitchen will look much more modern than the cabin's. As a REAL CABINET MAKER, you'll probably think I'm INSANE! LOL
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That's a good point on the sagging. I wondered the same thing early on in the design. I've limited the longest unsupported spans to be the bottom front stile in the upper cabs. That lower front is supported horizontally by the part the sets it's depth from the wall, but there is no vertical support.
That span is 4' 1-1/2". It is 1-1/2" thick, on the face, and 3/4" in depth. You think this will sag? I truly don't know. The safest bet would be to put one 3/4" vertical rail at the halfway point, but that would change the look.
Hey, I get it. It doesn't matter if the "look" is achieved if the cabinets don't work! That exact part is the only thing I'm not sure of.
Thoughts? 'N Thanks!
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That span is 4' 1-1/2". It is 1-1/2" thick, on the face, and 3/4" in depth. You think this will sag? I truly don't know. The safest bet would be to put one 3/4" vertical rail at the halfway point, but that would change the look.
Hey, I get it. It doesn't matter if the "look" is achieved if the cabinets don't work! That exact part is the only thing I'm not sure of.
Thoughts? 'N Thanks!
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