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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
Good luck with your hot rodding
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
As I was reading your blog I was worried about posting a question for fear that you might take it as a sarcastic comment. Then I got to your last paragraph and you answered my question. I don't think this work would be for me, but if you enjoy it and save some money at the same time, that makes a lot more sense. I'm about to try a jointer refurb. That will be my first stab at any type of work on machinery. I look forward to it, but I don't think I'm naturally inclined to do this stuff like you seem to be. Best of luck.
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
Yeah, well my first career was as an auto / diesel mechanic. I worked on a lot of high end import stuff where parts weren't always available, and even the manuals would tell you, use component XYZ from another model, and modify this way before fittment to vehicle… The Italians were the worst about that…

I am honestly, on the prowl for an 8" jointer to refurb, but the price has to be right…

And I agree, this is NOT a project that will appeal to a lot of folks. For those that don't want to tinker with their saws, the Powermatic 14" with riser block (installed by your dealer) is probably your best bet… Maybe the Steel City 14"...
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
Question: I read on another forum about a HF fence made for this saw.
Do you have any information about it?
I cannot find anything about this HF fence
Thank you.
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
From what I can tell, both models of band saw fences have dropped out of the Harbor Freight catalog. They used to make a real basic fence, which I have seen a few of, and a "Precision Fence" with micro adjuster and all…

In all honesty, if it weren't for the miserable mounting configuration of the Craftsman, it's not a terrible fence, But… I think you could do the same thing with a piece of angle aluminum and 2 bar clamps….
 

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Background, and ideas.

As you may or may not know I am in the process of hot rodding as it were, my Harbor Freight 32208 14" band saw. The work so far has been..

#1. Harbor Freight Universal Mobile Base.
#2. Craftsman Professional Universal Band Saw Fence. (functional, but certainly NOT great, planning on picking up some small HF C clamps to help it out. The clamps this thing somes with are garbage.)
#3. Harbor Freight riser block kit. Priceless add on for this saw.
#4. Accura Micro Adjustable Roller Bearing Blade guides.
#5. Acculink link belts.
#6. Timberwolf blades.

These mods have been done for quite a while now, and I have been picking up the design ideas, bits and pieces to move forward with bigger mods. The biggest is my Grizzly tension release lever.

Due to some comments in the Grizzly Tension Release on a HF bandsaw thread, there has been some confusion to which parts to order for the tension release. I have double and triple checked the part #s against the Grizzly G0555 parts list.

33 P0555033A 1 Blade Adj. Screw Assy 7"
131A P0555131A 1 Fixed Spacer A.
131B P0555131B 1 Fixed Spacer B.
133 P0555133 1 Lever Rod
135 P0555135 1 Bushing
137 P0555137 1 Bracket
140 P0555140 2 Support Plate
141 P0555141 1 Fixed Base

Now the rest of this stuff SHOULD be findable at your local hardware store for a LOT less money than Grizzly sells it.
If you are wanting to go with the Metric to be 100% up to speed with Grizzly, the parts are…
130A PSS05M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×10. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
130B PSS07M 1 Setscrew M5-.8×5. (Required to get this size, the Grizz parts are threaded for it!)
132 PW04M 1 Flat Washer 10mm
134, PW01M 6 Flat Washer 8MM
136, PSB82M 1 Button Cap Screw M8-1.25×20
138, PB15M 2 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×40
139, P0555139 2 Nylon Nut M8-1.25
142, PLW04M 2 Lock Washer 8MM
143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

Per the original instructions, if you have SAE tap / die set, you can substitute SAE hardware for the metric stuff. Those components are…
2
Code:
 5/16-18 bolts 1 1/2" 
2
5/15-18 bolts 3/4"
1
Code:
 5/16-18 button cap screw 3/4" 
7
5/16 flat washers
2
Code:
 5/16 lock washers<br />2
5/16-18 nylon locking nuts

All of the parts for my Grizzly tension release lever from Grizzly are in. I figure since I will be into the bandsaw for this conversion, I am making a couple of other mods at the same time. One of them related to the conversion.

#1. Replace the OEM tension spring with a Carter Cobra Coil. (On order from Woodcraft). Woodcraft item #14497.
#2. Return OEM guide assemblies fitted with cool blocks. The micro adjust on the roller guides is nice and all, but has been a hassle adjustment wise over time. I am wishing I hadn't done this particular mod. Cool Blocks Woodcraft Item #49H02.
#3. "Enhanced lower blade guide dust port" made from 4" S&D, pine, screws, and adhesive sealant. The DC will come into a 4×4x2.5 wye, the 2.5" will go up to the upper blade guide. I have tested the idea by bungee cording the hoses where I want them, and it works GREAT, I just want to set up a more proper mounting / hood system.

Not coming in quite yet, but planned for the next round of upgrades.
#1. Add Harbor Freight #90766 75 Watt Magnetic Base Light. (This will be moved from tool to tool as needed. I rarely need it for the bandsaw, but find lighting around the lathe to be pretty lousy…)
#2. Carter Urethane bandsaw tires. Woodcraft item #144969.
#3. Carter Clean Sweep wheel brush. Yes I can shop build one, but for the cost, I would be more money and LOTS more effort into a shop built brush.
#4. Rockler Safety shut off switch. I have hated the OEM switch mount location of my saw. Always felt it was unsafe. I want to move the switch to the frame, AND provide a large paddle STOP mechanism for the saw. (See the Steel City 14" band saw for ideas). I am planning on not plugging in as other members here have done, but actually wiring the switch to the motor in proper fashion, and eliminating the OEM switch. This will leave a switch plate hole in the stand. No biggie. Home Depot sells metal block off plates, simply use the threaded insert of a wall box spacer to back up the block off plate. Not sure if I can color match the stand, so chances are it will get a couple of coats of gloss black paint and then a couple of coats of clear.

Now I KNOW that if I try to sell it, I will never get out of this saw what I have in it. That's not the point. Unless something major happens to the frame, table, or trunion, I have no intention of getting rid of this saw. It's a good cutting machine, and has been very accepting of the various mods.

For those that are going to ask why not just buy a saw like a Grizz GO555 with the mods already done in the first place. Well aside from the blade guides, fence, and of course the tension release, the Grizzly would need the same mods. Now on sale, with the 20% off coupon, the 32208 runs just under half of what the Grizz does. Not to mention in all honesty, I like tinkering with machines too.
Making my comments as a new post to this blog series.
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
Good luck. Where are the pictures??
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
Photos?
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
You wanna see a box of parts?
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…


The nuts, bolts, washers came from Ace Hardware. The cool blocks and cobra coil are from Woodcraft, and everything else is from Grizzly..

You may notice that there is now one extra M8-1.25×20 bolt in the batch. I was getting annoyed with the parts count.
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
Thanks for the post.
I'd be very interested to see how the blade release works out.
Do you have a part number for the riser kit from Harbor Freight and how much did it cost??
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
The riser block kit part # is 24536-0ZZA, and it is NOT available through the stores. You must obtain it through Harbor Freight Parts.

I did a write up report and review on BT3Central when I first installed it. (NOTE TO MODS: If I am overstepping my bounds by linking my posts on other forums, please let me know. I just didn't want to have all that copy / paste stuff to do…)

I do not recall exactly the price, but I know it was a couple of bucks cheaper than the Grizzly riser block kit.

FWIW, the response would be the same for almost every band saw / riser block. The blade they ship with is JUNK. Don't even bother installing the thing. Just order a good blade or variety of blades and start off with good ones. You will HATE this saw with the OE blade, and the blade with the riser kit is worse than the OE blade…

Hope that helps!

 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
I bought one of this band saw last week for $100.00!

" I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead"
Why?

What's wrong with the original tension spring?
Thanks
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
b2rtch, I have the same saw and the cool blocks work well for me, as well as their price compared to the rollers, because they will work with narrower blade and not hurt their teeth.
And the stock spring works well for me, I think the spring is just a gimmick to sell and make a few extra bucks, and the original will work well unless it is fully collapsed.

MY 2 CENTS
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
My original tension spring did NOT like the riser block. I could never get enough tension on the blade. This is honestly one area that the HF saw missed the mark, then again, from what I have read so do the Deltas, and Ridgids and… You get the idea. Some guys do well with them, mostly they are great if you aren't using a riser block…
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
I called HFT about the riser block and they want $118. I can get the Grizzly version for $80. And, someone is selling the Powermatic version on craigslist.

Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy the cheapest one?
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
There are only 2 reasons I can think of to buy the HFT over the others.

#1. No doubt about fit. There are several different sizes. The low end grizz riser is reported to fit perfect, I am not sure.
#2. Cosmetics. Only the HFT Riser will be painted a matching green.
 

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All the pieces parts for the tension assembly are in, almost...

My order from Grizzly is in, and like an idiot I was following the parts list from Grizzly. The parts list shows an INCORRECT number of the following part…

143, PB09M 1 Hex Bolt M8-1.25×20

The actual quantity should be 2. These are the bolts that hold the main assembly to the band saw frame…

Fasteners wise, I was able to source everything from my local Ace Hardware store in their Hillman Fastener bins with no problem. Yes Metric is more expensive than SAE hardware, but since this is an import saw that currently uses metric fasteners, I did not want to switch measurement units in the middle of a project.

Other upgrades that are happening at the same time are…

#1. Cobra Coil tension spring. Since I will have the tension assembly apart, I might as well replace the spring with a better one.
#2. I am pulling the roller blade guides out, and installing cool blocks instead.

If LOML doesn't have other plans for me, I will do the conversion this weekend…
"I called HFT about the riser block and they want $118"
try to call them again to speak to someone else.
I paid far less than that for my kit
 
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