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First and foremost,Hello folks. Secondly, I found a large live edge cookie at my grandparents home in New Mexico. Naturally, being a wood head, I grabbed it. The more I look at it the more unsure I become as to the species. At first, I knew I had a maple burl slab, then I started noticing a pattern within the areas I’m calling burl. The wood is not full of voids and there is most definitely a pattern in there.. any guesses? Is this figured, quilted or birdseye maple? Is it maple at all?? Any help would be amazing..




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Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


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Did it grow in new mexico, or was it brought in from another area or state? It looks like some redwood burl that I have seen.
Welcome to LumberJocks!

Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


Best Luck!
Thanks so much for you feedback. The bark is definitely removed. Not sure as to the origin of the tree that was cut, Your idea of getting a picture of the backside after I clean it up, is a great idea… I will be posting pictures of the other side shortly
I would it keeper wood. Great looking piece
And a stealth gloat
Good Luck
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it looks like redwood to me.
Looks like redwood to me as well. Soft, easily cut, fresh wood is reddish color.
Did it grow in new mexico, or was it brought in from another area or state? It looks like some redwood burl that I have seen.
That was my first thought too.
Whatever it is, it's beautiful !!! Mel
Did your grandparents live in or visit California. I too think it is Redwood or possibly Western Red Cedar.
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Did your grandparents live in or visit California. I too think it is Redwood or possibly Western Red Cedar.
They actually lived here where I am (Ventura county ,CA ). They moved to New Mexico , geez, maybe 30 years ago. So if the slab was from California when they lived here it would be pretty old
I have no idea what species it is, but if it has some finish on it, which it looks to have, maybe it was already used as a cocktail table? Beautiful piece as it is. Just needs a base.
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Did your grandparents live in or visit California. I too think it is Redwood or possibly Western Red Cedar.
I have no idea what species it is, but if it has some finish on it, which it looks to have, maybe it was already used as a cocktail table? Beautiful piece as it is. Just needs a base.
It does have finish on it, not sure what kind; however, there are no visible attachment points on opposite side, so I’m assuming they were going to use it and never did or possibly put in on a crate😂
Looks like a redwood burl slab to me.
The grain, color and edges look like the small one I have. The very large ones I’ve seen look similar.

If you can dent it with your fingernail, it’s even more likely it’s redwood.

It’s absolutely gorgeous. Nice find.
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They actually lived here where I am (Ventura county ,CA ). They moved to New Mexico , geez, maybe 30 years ago. So if the slab was from California when they lived here it would be pretty old
Well there aren't any native Redwoods in Ventura but to the east of there towards Yosemite are the (Sequoiadendron giganteum) or giant redwood that live over 2000 years and north are the coastal redwoods (Metasequoia glyptostrobides). They are taller but not as big around. Looking at the growth rings that are clear it looks like the tree this came from could be several hundred years old when it was cut down. I have seen sections of logs that were cut down over 100 years ago laying in the forest that are still solid and sound; it is very rot resistant.
Either of these trees will grow on the west coast from central Calif. all the way to the Canadian border. I have both varieties on my property in central western Oregon. The giant sequoia was planted around 1964 and is about 5' in diameter at the base right now. With the ongoing droughts in Calif and climate change these trees may need to migrate north to survive.
Welcome to LumberJocks!

Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


Best Luck!
Welcome to LumberJocks!

Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


Best Luck!
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Welcome to LumberJocks!

Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


Best Luck!
Welcome to LumberJocks!

Observations:
Looks like someone has used a wire brush on edges and cleaned all the bark and sap wood from the sample?
Color and sheen looks like it has finish applied, which will make determining species almost impossible. Need to see backside, and freshly machined surface to check species.
See a crack that needs stabilized with epoxy to prevent further splitting and damage.

As far as grain type? Burl grain.
Burl grain is unique in that is can have many different types of defects that don't fit one classification.

New Mexico? How hard/dense/heavy is it?
Several eucalyptus/acacia species are common in arid river bottoms of SW desert states. Local 'red' eucalyptus ends to have orange tones, if we are seeing the natural wood color. Eucalyptus is hard, heavy, and dense. Acacia species can be medium to dense hardwoods. At same time, the large spacing between early and late wood in some areas of cookie better resemble a softwood/conifer species. Alligator Juniper is very common in central AZ and NM mountains. Alligator juniper has a wide range of colors, depending on local soil; but can look similar to your cookie when clear coated with varnish/poly.

FWIW - When I need to figure out random lumber species examples, I use these two sites:

Wood Filter | The Wood Database

HobbitHouse Wood ID site


Best Luck!
I’m sorry first and foremost for reposting that!! I hit the wrong button. Well, I finally was able to start finishing the backside. A couple things are for certain: it is most definitely not a hardwood, as most of you already knew. Secondly, it stinks 😂. I don’t have a planner/router sled big enough to mill it down, so I’m using belt sander, ros and finally a large card scraper. Unfortunately I found out real quick that no matter how sharp my card scraper was it was still chipping out some of the burl sections. I took pictures firstly of the wood right after card scraping and then some after a water pop. Hopefully some of these images will help provide a better chance at identification!
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Stinky, soft, beige-white wood?
When wet does it smell sour, sort of like moldy cat piss?
Then I vote Cottonwood!
Fresh cut cottonwood will make some folks vomit, it is so strong. Even kiln dried cottonwood is foul smelling when wet.
Black cottonwood is common in SW desert, mostly near stream beds. Low BTU value as firewood. Not a high value wood most people seek out.
Local urban sawyers all seem to have a stack of cottonwood slabs/rounds/burls from large salvage trees they milled for the figured grain.
The figure can be really cool, it you can get past the smell......
I’m sorry first and foremost for reposting that!! I hit the wrong button. Well, I finally was able to start finishing the backside. A couple things are for certain: it is most definitely not a hardwood, as most of you already knew. Secondly, it stinks 😂. I don’t have a planner/router sled big enough to mill it down, so I’m using belt sander, ros and finally a large card scraper. Unfortunately I found out real quick that no matter how sharp my card scraper was it was still chipping out some of the burl sections. I took pictures firstly of the wood right after card scraping and then some after a water pop. Hopefully some of these images will help provide a better chance at identification! View attachment 3856747
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I’m sorry everyone! I don’t know why it loaded two of each picture! I’ll get the hang of this soon I hope!
Stinky, soft, beige-white wood?
When wet does it smell sour, sort of like moldy cat piss?
Then I vote Cottonwood!
Fresh cut cottonwood will make some folks vomit, it is so strong. Even kiln dried cottonwood is foul smelling when wet.
Black cottonwood is common in SW desert, mostly near stream beds. Low BTU value as firewood. Not a high value wood most people seek out.
Local urban sawyers all seem to have a stack of cottonwood slabs/rounds/burls from large salvage trees they milled for the figured grain.
The figure can be really cool, it you can get past the smell......
Stinky, soft, beige-white wood?
When wet does it smell sour, sort of like moldy cat piss?
Then I vote Cottonwood!
Fresh cut cottonwood will make some folks vomit, it is so strong. Even kiln dried cottonwood is foul smelling when wet.
Black cottonwood is common in SW desert, mostly near stream beds. Low BTU value as firewood. Not a high value wood most people seek out.
Local urban sawyers all seem to have a stack of cottonwood slabs/rounds/burls from large salvage trees they milled for the figured grain.
The figure can be really cool, it you can get past the smell......
i did actually put my nose on the wet and dry wood and took a big wiff. However, it had regular wood smell. I’m almost positive it was the dust in the air that smelled, possibly not wood related at all? Maybe something that got on the wood, ie, possible mildew, mold or some environmental contaminants? The flame pattern in cottonwood does appear to be strikingly similar though, doesn’t it? You were a great help to me and I appreciate it so much!
wow, that's gorgeous figure, whatever it is!
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