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I like-maybe even LOVE-my Bosch 4100, but … like a lot of things in this world … I'm aware of its limitations.

There's a guy near me who … is in a tough spot … and has to sell his Grizzly 1023SL with Shop Fox fence and roller base:





I think it's four years old. It looks totally clean. I'd wager (and verify) that it's in perfect running order.

He's asking $1,000, but … a) I think that's high, b) I'm sure he'd go a few hundred lower, and c) I can't pay $1,000 ;-)

It's 220V … which I'd have to add to my panel, but … let's say I could get it for $750, and then sell My Bosch.

If there's an easy "I'd do it," or "I wouldn't bother," please let me know.

If there are other thoughts that you might have about the possible upgrade, I'd be grateful for those, too.

Thanks, All!!
 

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They were getting rid of those recently for around $900 new (shipping and tax not included). They made way for the riving knife version. I think $750 sounds pretty good if it was kept well. I got a 6 month old 5hp G1023 with router wing, mobile base and roller outfeed table for $1000 on Craigslist. Getting it out of a basement and back home was the interesting part! By the way, I justified it by selling my Ridgid contractor saw and putting that money toward the new one.
 

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as you improve your skills ,
so your needs change too .

having a tool that you can work confidently with ,
frees up your mind to do more and better things .

download an add for the price as jason said ,
and show that to this guy .

good luck !
 

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Sounds real good Neil, but you would probably keep it a long time. I wouldn't want to have a table saw without a riving knife period. It is a very important safety feature that I would sorely miss, and I am not a safety nut!
 

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Sounds like a good step up Neil. In today's market for a saw that's 4 years old even it's in perfect condition I would not pay over 60% of the new price.
 

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As always … thanks much, all.

A special thanks to Mike. I didn't figure my LJs would talk me OUT of a new tool, but … at least you came up with one negative.

LOL!

It has a splitter, but not the riving knife. I found this in an online review:

"It comes equipped with a standard blade guard/splitter device, and not a riving knife like the new G0690, but it will accept an aftermarket device called a Bolt On Ripping Knife (BORK), that mimics a riving knife…it rides up, down, and tilts with the blade, and resides in close proximity to the blade, just like a riving knife. The biggest difference between the BORK and true riving knife is that the BORK is at the end of the arbor swing arm, and travels in a slight arc as opposed to vertically. "

I think Charles has a BORK on his saw. Seemed happy with it.

The other forum had a discussion about this same saw, last year. The consensus was … that y'all are pretty right on about the price-$600-650-ish is closer to market.

JasonWagner: Thanks for that info. Sounds like … if I DO it … you're my go-to guy. It's in HIS garage, but would have to be in MY basement ;-)

Thinking on it…. Thanks, again! Will let you know :)
 

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Looks like the market price is a little lower than I thought. I do wish I had a riving knife, but I use the splitter whenever I can. So some inconvenience to fit my budget is OK. A 3hp cabinet saw with a riving knife under $1000 might be hard to come by. Guess it depends what your priorities are. About the weight…I carry 1/2 kegs of beer into my basement all the time, but that table saw nearly killed me and my buddy. Take the wings off and bring some nice gloves if you buy it because that cast iron is sharp when you're holding 200lbs of it (assuming you have a helper).
 

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Everyone is right about having a working riving knife. My saw is a shop fox which doesn't have a riving knife either. I wish I could add it. I can't afford a Bork it seams like to much for that product. I have been considering a removable Shark Splitter kit from Leeway workshop but this unit doesn't tilt with the blade. That type of saw is not that hard to find on Craigslist for $600 to $750 with a 52" fence or other useful features. You may want to keep your Bosch. It would be nice to have two saws going with different blades for larger projects or mobile use. Only if you have the space and budget.
 

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Thanks so much, again, all.

This morning, I exhaled … and took another look at the CraigsList page for our little 100,000 person town (prolly' 250k in the area).

There were a few Deltas, and some other cabinet saws … WITH the RK … competitively priced.

So … you are all exactly right. It's NOT "three strikes." I CAN "wait for my pitch (and use Simple Green to get it off the blade!)"

Meanwhile … tomorrow or Tuesday, my Forrest WWII should arrive. I may (never say never!) have bought myself a lot more nice cutting time, on the Bosch. Truth be told … if I dropped the thing into a nice shop-built table (eg, Norm's), I'd probably have … pretty near zero complaints about its functionality.

Mostly because … I've never even USED a high-end saw ;-)
 

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$1k is wishful thinking on the seller's part. Even if he had all the time in the world and didn't need to sell it, $1k is high considering they were selling for $889 shipped a month ago with no extras. $750 is fair, $650 is better.

You'll know when the time is right.
 
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