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I have an antique desk in for repairs.
It has already been altered from it's original condition, and lost authenticity.
The owner is not concerned with that aspect, and never plans on selling the desk.
I am looking/seeking some replacement MAHOGANY unfinished gallery spindles, and rail for the top.
It is missing.
I included a "example" pic from a desk that has a gallery, but I do not need a bottom rail (as in pic), I need 15 total spindles, the 4 corners, and middle back, (5 total) should be a little different from the (10 others) in rest of the field, and a rail for top…I can make the rail, but the spindles are what I am seeking.
They are 1/4" tenons, but can be made a bit larger, I am thinking the spindles should be no more than 2" at most, and around 5/8" apprx.
I would like to have Mahogany, if possible…I have found Birch, Oak, and "Hardwood", but cannot find them in Mahogany.
Also, the "original" mortised-in hinges (see pic) for the desk drop lid, have been replaced with the two field hinges shown (notice empty mortises for originals)
The original hinges "automatically" extended the lid supports when lid was opened.
I have 'heard' that these hinges are very RARE, and impossible to find.
She would love to have the supports come out "auto" if I can pull it off/?
Any suggestions on the hinge dilemma…it is that important, but would really make her day.
The gallery up top is my main concern.

Pics below - I have many more pics, also.

Not sure if I did this in the "correct" forum, and apologize ahead of time, if I didn't.

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Steve, I wish there were something I could offer in the way of advise or materials… I'd love the see the solution to the 'auto-hinge' question in particular. Hopefully this 'bump' will get folks reading and providing input. Good luck.
 

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thanks guys…I am going to take some more pics, of the internal area of the old hinge area tomorrow, and post them…one person mentioned some old hinges, that had a "hockey-stick" type of attachment to the supports…I see where it would have brought the supports out, but finding these hinges, may be unattainable
 

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Spindles, I know there are some lumberjocks who have a Vega Duplicator that they can make. As it goes for the top rails and bottom is easy enough providing you have a profile with all the measurments… A moulding company can duplicate.

Do any of these hinges look like what you need?????

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I personally don't like the rails at the top I think they make an otherwise nice desk look cheap and tacky.Just my opinion of course however the desk is a great idea,It is just a pity you could not turn them yourself it would be an easy enough job.I did this same set up for my neighbour in oak for some kitchen cabinets he was gifted.I wish you well, and also success in finding your parts .Perhaps someone near you, might turn you some for Christmas.Alistair
 

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I'm wondering whether a doll's house supply store might have "bannister rails" that would work for the gallery spindles? There must be something in Google …

Sigh. Apart from that all, I can offer is a woodworker's handshake and a muttered "good luck" ...
 

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Do you have an age of the piece? With that, I might email the folks at Williamsburg and see if they know what you need. They do sell things but more importantly, they may have a picture or drawing. With that, you can have one made a any good machine shop - pricey but doable.
 

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I was just checking in…and seen ALL the support from you nice people…thank you.

I am in a rush right now, to go out…but I will get back to this thread tomorrow…
with answers, and more pics..

thank you all again!

Steve
 

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First…the age is approx. late 1800's very early 1900's.

As far as the mini gallery on top…I only wish to replace what was originally provided with the desk…if it had not had a gallery, I (or She, the customer) would have never wished to add one.

The gallery did not have a bottom rail (per pics), it would have had 15 spindles. 5 would have been a bit larger in diameter. meaning bulkier, they would be the 4 corners, and the middle of the back, the 10 remaining in the field should be a bit slender than the other 5, and all will need to be 1/4" tenons, by 1 3/4" - ish high, maybe 1 1/2". I can make the top rail myself, but I am VERY interested in having someone mill/turn these spindles for me, out of "Mahogany", subject to pricing.

The Rockler Hinge set (screen shot added), is on the RIGHT-track, It has the EXACT "Hockey-stick" type of pull for the supports…but it is a side mount type…and (per pics) this desk "had" a face mounted, mortised-in type.
I "may" or may NOT, be able to adapt this hinge to the desk, but would very much prefer to TRY to find a hinge that could get in these mortises, or at least mount the same way, and I could enlarge the mortises, or lesson them. And, I am pretty sure it would not work with the way the desk lid has an overlay of sorts.

I am very grateful for all the support from members!
I asked for help…and got a great response…Thank you all!

If ANY one can turn those spindles for me, I'd be interested in working out the details…I would give you rough drawings, dimensions, etc…

As far as the hinges - I really hope I can find a solution…

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I got some spindles mailed, today. I did a quick 'mock-up' of the example gallery, to be.
The top rail is just some Poplar I used for mock-up, i have some Mahogany for the new one.
I will soak the spindles in the Red Mahogany stain I am using for the desk (spindles I purchased are in Birch),
I think they will fade-into the rest of the desk nicely.

I am still waiting on the Rockler hinges…I have a nice plan laid out to adapt them to the desk.

Thanks again for all your help, 'jocks' :)

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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
I am not sure if anyone is still interested in what became of my search for drop front desk lid hardware for a Early desk, that would make the supports come out "automatically" when the lid was opened…but i RETRO-fitted a pair of hinges that someone alerted me to from Rockler. The video of the retro-fit, and operation is posted on Youtube -


It works flawlessly…many hours still to go on desk…Winter has been rough, and we are not doing much at the moment, because it just costs too much to heat the shop for work.

Thanks to all who helped me.
 

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...oh…btw, the TV was on, and I also have a breathing issue, ha…so it was a bad editing day :)

The video was taken on my phone, and the supports have yet to be sanded, and waxed, everything is still in project mode, thnx
 

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...also, also…I have completed the search and construction of the NEW top rail, and spindles.

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It is a dry fit…(custom milled, spline cornered, Mahogany rail) has to be final sanded, and stained (although I had dip-stained the spindles long ago)
 

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Desk is done.
The "auto hinge" hardware from Rockler worked awesome…had to add new breadboard ends to the lid though.
Delivered it today.
I also posted a quick video on YouTube :

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