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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
Would have gone with a large trash can but the ones I looked at seemed to be of poor quality/durability, and the drum was available.
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
My cyclone is a drum with the lock ring top..i put the cone in the lid in case I need to take it off…
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
Looking good Doc!
Looks like an electric still.
Let me know how that works out.
All kidding aside. You are making progress.
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
Dave,

Thanks, I cut hole through my shed wall and my shop wall. Put 6" galvanized pipe for protected hose from the shop to the chip collector. Trying to figure out what fittings I bought a t the time and what I really need to make it work, now.

Have you checked out my first project?
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
No I am heading there now.
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
DocSavage,

Great project! It spurred an idea for my own shop. Right now I only have a shop vac and 5-gallon bucket chip separator/cyclone but I really need to upgrade. The biggest problem is that I have a small (10-by-13 foot) shop and squeezing in better dust collection would be hard. Seeing your comment about moving your dust collection system to a nearby garden shed got me thinking. My workshop is at the end of my house and that side of the house is not really used much (a/c compressors, electrical and gas meters, garbage cans, etc). I could easily build a small lean-to on the side of the house for some storage and put a nice dust collection system in there. A 4-inch hole through the wall with a gate should be all I need. It would keep things quieter and save me room on the inside. Thanks for the inspiration!
 

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Small steps forward

Not a whole lot to show for progrees since the last posting, but I have two functional chores completed toward my goal.

When I constructed my Thein chip separator I had a difficult time, and therefore extended time in cutting the plywood circles. Used my Makita Saber Saw, and then figured out/tuned up my Band Saw with help from some knowledgeable Lumberjocks. My thanks ( again!) for the guidance.

Realized I could cur faster with a circle cutter, and used my sheet metal circle cutter. As I mentioned I cut one hole which dulled the bit. Resorted back to my saber saw.

Marc Adams of the Marc Adams Woodworking School did a two day workshop for the MN Woodworkers Guild. I purchased his set of instructional DVD's and learned a bunch. Remembered the Router DVD. It has Router Jigs. Replayed it, took some notes, and bought some 1/4 inch acrylic from my local window repair guy.

The jig is et up with 1/2 inch increments starting FROM A 4" RADIUS THROUGH A 16" RADIUS.

Musical instrument Guitar accessory Musical instrument accessory String instrument accessory Electronic instrument


Jeans Electrical wiring Eyewear Wood Audio equipment


Used my drill press, band saw, and stationary sander. This slow poke took a day with careful attention so I didn't have to cut and drill a second time. LOL!

I had mentioned that I have yet to put wheels on the chip separator. That actually went well. Used one fixed wheel and two multidirectional wheels with locks.

I had originally build a garden shed for my snow blowers, lawn mowers, and I had intended to put the dust collector in the building which is about 4 ft from my shop. Realized my Delta is only 1200 cfm, and I had purchase flex 4" with blast gates. This was before I knew how much dust collectors really need to suck.

Automotive tire Gas Audio equipment Rim Auto part


Liquid Dishware Fluid Serveware Gas


Went with my original plan and put it in the Garden Shed. I'm in the process of figuring out the connection between the two buildings.

Gas Engineering Machine Nut Plumbing
Tim, Thanks!

FYI: My garden shed is extremely well insulated. And I will be insulating the 4" that I am running through the galvanized pipe. Insulation serves two purposes. We have sub zero temps and I have neighbors. :<)

Post it when you get it done!
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Dunno, but I just had to tell you that this story was much more entertaining than those of the supposedtobeentertainers… So thanks for sharing. :-D
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
I have the older saw, got it the first year it came out and still use it today. The Type 2 main changes are instant start, no more hesitation when you turn the switch on. The nuts on the blade clamps have been changed to a thumbnut that doesn't need a wrench to adjust. And the threaded rod that was in the way of the bottom clamp on the left side is now gone. The tension lever setup has been changed to a new flip lever, a lot nicer to use, plus eliminated a lot of the cluttered look at the front of the arm. This new tension setup will fit onto the original Q3 arm.
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Johnny,

The story is part of the journey? Thanks! :)
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Andrew,

Like your avatar…. :)

Been looking at e-parts and Mikes. Downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts lis. I have to get this saw unloaded but I'd like to get your guidance. :) To make it as easy and efficient as possible.

Thanks!
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Those are the type of things that happen to me. Makes life more interesting. Hope your weather clears up.
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Monte,

LOL! you could use a little boredom? I'm sort of like Pigpen in the Penuts series. Usually have a cloud around me! Going to be 40 degrees tomorrow! And I can unplug the electrical heaters in my vehicles as it won't be -10 degrees!
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
I bet you will always remember when you purchased this saw
 

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What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife's tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked "does it cut wood?" The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said"The lower clamp is in backwards."

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I'm a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN'T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don't ask how I know)

The question of this blog is "How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but "Nothing!"

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn't watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.
Norm!

You Betcha! Started taking it apart today after watching a You Tube video on rehabbing a Dewalt. Not to much similarity but it keeps me thinking in the right direction.

Thanks!
 

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How do I get the best out of an OLD DELTA 40-650 Type I? Need experienced advice!

LJ's

I purchased a Delta C arm 18" scroll saw. It has been a misadventure born out of poverty. LOL! Have an intarsia, project in mind. It's for an artist friend. An inlay into a box made from one of his great paintings.

Purchased the 40-650 Type I Scroll Saw at least 3 months ago, maybe longer ( brought it home driving several hours in a blizzard). De rusted the aged metal table, painted and cleaned up the old girl. Looked good!

The clamping mechanism and the clearance for the clamp on this saw seem over engineered and although pretty, (I like the design) It's clamping mechanism is (to me ) screwed up. When I first attempted a high end run, without a net(literally) The blade or clamp broke apart. Lost some springs, and I didn't have the parts.

Finally got everything back together after waiting 2 months for parts, and it is together. ( Had another rainy day)

Did some test cutting on some 3/4 pine and some old 1/4 inch plywood in the shop with different tpi blades. I've been trying different cutting settings and there is a lot of vibration. ( Any suggestions on smooth and safe cutting?

All advice, suggestions, and comments appreciated!

( I probably could have cut all the parts with a hand coping saw by now? LOL!)
 

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How do I get the best out of an OLD DELTA 40-650 Type I? Need experienced advice!

LJ's

I purchased a Delta C arm 18" scroll saw. It has been a misadventure born out of poverty. LOL! Have an intarsia, project in mind. It's for an artist friend. An inlay into a box made from one of his great paintings.

Purchased the 40-650 Type I Scroll Saw at least 3 months ago, maybe longer ( brought it home driving several hours in a blizzard). De rusted the aged metal table, painted and cleaned up the old girl. Looked good!

The clamping mechanism and the clearance for the clamp on this saw seem over engineered and although pretty, (I like the design) It's clamping mechanism is (to me ) screwed up. When I first attempted a high end run, without a net(literally) The blade or clamp broke apart. Lost some springs, and I didn't have the parts.

Finally got everything back together after waiting 2 months for parts, and it is together. ( Had another rainy day)

Did some test cutting on some 3/4 pine and some old 1/4 inch plywood in the shop with different tpi blades. I've been trying different cutting settings and there is a lot of vibration. ( Any suggestions on smooth and safe cutting?

All advice, suggestions, and comments appreciated!

( I probably could have cut all the parts with a hand coping saw by now? LOL!)
Hi Tom, if you haven't already, bolt or clamp the scrollsaw to your bench or working area, this cuts most if not all vibration. I hope I'm not teaching Grandpa how to suck eggs, but let the saw do the work, your hand are just the guide, the thicker the wood the slower the cutting, unless you are going with the grain, then it tends to run away with you if you are not careful. Look forward to seeing the results!
 

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How do I get the best out of an OLD DELTA 40-650 Type I? Need experienced advice!

LJ's

I purchased a Delta C arm 18" scroll saw. It has been a misadventure born out of poverty. LOL! Have an intarsia, project in mind. It's for an artist friend. An inlay into a box made from one of his great paintings.

Purchased the 40-650 Type I Scroll Saw at least 3 months ago, maybe longer ( brought it home driving several hours in a blizzard). De rusted the aged metal table, painted and cleaned up the old girl. Looked good!

The clamping mechanism and the clearance for the clamp on this saw seem over engineered and although pretty, (I like the design) It's clamping mechanism is (to me ) screwed up. When I first attempted a high end run, without a net(literally) The blade or clamp broke apart. Lost some springs, and I didn't have the parts.

Finally got everything back together after waiting 2 months for parts, and it is together. ( Had another rainy day)

Did some test cutting on some 3/4 pine and some old 1/4 inch plywood in the shop with different tpi blades. I've been trying different cutting settings and there is a lot of vibration. ( Any suggestions on smooth and safe cutting?

All advice, suggestions, and comments appreciated!

( I probably could have cut all the parts with a hand coping saw by now? LOL!)
Phil,

Is that just a scroll saw thing in general? Or with this beast in particular?

Thanks!
 

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How do I get the best out of an OLD DELTA 40-650 Type I? Need experienced advice!

LJ's

I purchased a Delta C arm 18" scroll saw. It has been a misadventure born out of poverty. LOL! Have an intarsia, project in mind. It's for an artist friend. An inlay into a box made from one of his great paintings.

Purchased the 40-650 Type I Scroll Saw at least 3 months ago, maybe longer ( brought it home driving several hours in a blizzard). De rusted the aged metal table, painted and cleaned up the old girl. Looked good!

The clamping mechanism and the clearance for the clamp on this saw seem over engineered and although pretty, (I like the design) It's clamping mechanism is (to me ) screwed up. When I first attempted a high end run, without a net(literally) The blade or clamp broke apart. Lost some springs, and I didn't have the parts.

Finally got everything back together after waiting 2 months for parts, and it is together. ( Had another rainy day)

Did some test cutting on some 3/4 pine and some old 1/4 inch plywood in the shop with different tpi blades. I've been trying different cutting settings and there is a lot of vibration. ( Any suggestions on smooth and safe cutting?

All advice, suggestions, and comments appreciated!

( I probably could have cut all the parts with a hand coping saw by now? LOL!)
Hi Tom,

It is something I was always taught to do, to avoid vibration, most modern scrollsaws have bolt holes in the base, just for that purpose.

When you think of the force generated in order for the blade to cut, as opposed to the overall weight of the saw, it is not surprising that vibration is generated. :)

Cheers
Phil
 
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