[LittlePaw]

Need some help for the next step /220 single phase GFI?

I will have to put new wiring in for my 220 single phase 1023sl grizzly bear. Thats the next step so I can make hardwood rails for my "too short " dollies.

I have GFI's in line on all 110 circuits. It appears that I can only get a 220 GFI cuircut breaker?

Will be going to my second home..My favorite "Box Store" to pick up some electrical hardware.

Will I have to mount a 220 single phase gfi in the panel?

Thanks

Good luck, Doc…hope everything works out for ya! I probably need to do that as well!

 

[DanLyke]

Need some help for the next step /220 single phase GFI?

I will have to put new wiring in for my 220 single phase 1023sl grizzly bear. Thats the next step so I can make hardwood rails for my "too short " dollies.

I have GFI's in line on all 110 circuits. It appears that I can only get a 220 GFI cuircut breaker?

Will be going to my second home..My favorite "Box Store" to pick up some electrical hardware.

Will I have to mount a 220 single phase gfi in the panel?

Thanks

I used 220 GFCIs for the general outlets my shop because I used Edison (shared neutral) circuits, and you can't do that with sockets. Dayumn those suckers were pricey. And I had to special-order them.

However, I believe that code says that if you only have a single dedicated outlet you don't need a GFCI. This is for things like freezers and other single-purpose appliances (where nuisance trips could be hugely expensive), but it suggests that you should be able to get away with a standard 220 breaker. Check with your local building department, but I'd just go with a single outlet and a regular breaker.

 

[DocSavage45]

Need some help for the next step /220 single phase GFI?

I will have to put new wiring in for my 220 single phase 1023sl grizzly bear. Thats the next step so I can make hardwood rails for my "too short " dollies.

I have GFI's in line on all 110 circuits. It appears that I can only get a 220 GFI cuircut breaker?

Will be going to my second home..My favorite "Box Store" to pick up some electrical hardware.

Will I have to mount a 220 single phase gfi in the panel?

Thanks

Thanks,

I have a call in. Have a permit that I have to keep renewing because I asked for an inspection after the electricial broughtthe wiring to the shop.. He and I finished the outlets. The inspector wanted some things done differently, and that was a couple of years ago. Grizzly manual for the old bear suggests a dedicated 20 amp. But that was a awhile ago.

The COST of ground faults for the 110 are about 6 for one GFI 220! Don't want to have to redo it?

Gizzman! I'm a pretty good carpenter/contactor/electrician. I have lots of information/ but my experience at fine woodworking is minimal. Lots of practice on prototypes?

You can see some of the shop in blog #2

LittlePaw, if it doesn't work the first time…that's normal! LOL!

 

[Bigrock]

Need some help for the next step /220 single phase GFI?

I will have to put new wiring in for my 220 single phase 1023sl grizzly bear. Thats the next step so I can make hardwood rails for my "too short " dollies.

I have GFI's in line on all 110 circuits. It appears that I can only get a 220 GFI cuircut breaker?

Will be going to my second home..My favorite "Box Store" to pick up some electrical hardware.

Will I have to mount a 220 single phase gfi in the panel?

Thanks

Hi:
Something dose not make since Doc.
I have 220 circuits in my shop and none are Ground Fault. I bought a 20 Amp & 30 Amp breaker a couple weeks ago and they were not G F. Take another look in the Big Box Store. The only thing of is where you live they have a special Code for out buildings. All my 110 Volt circuits are G F protected.

 

[DocSavage45]

Need some help for the next step /220 single phase GFI?

I will have to put new wiring in for my 220 single phase 1023sl grizzly bear. Thats the next step so I can make hardwood rails for my "too short " dollies.

I have GFI's in line on all 110 circuits. It appears that I can only get a 220 GFI cuircut breaker?

Will be going to my second home..My favorite "Box Store" to pick up some electrical hardware.

Will I have to mount a 220 single phase gfi in the panel?

Thanks

Checked with local electrician. Going with straight 220 circuit breaker …which I have. Thanks for input.

 

[DocSavage45]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

 

[LittlePaw]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

Hi Doc, that looks like the 10 yr old Gizz I almost bought! After reading all the comments (yours too), I decided against it for $750 because it was a 3 phase 5hp monster and I had to either run a 3phase line to my shop (extra cost) or buy a different motor or buy an converter. . . . sort of like buying a 18 wheeler to go grocery shopping at Walmart! LWL!!! So by the time I can turn it on and use it, I might as well add a few more bucks and buy a brand new one that's ready to go! I sure am glad I blogged it before buying it though. My fellow LJs were most helpful and I thank all for that! So now you're ready to make something, hey?! Looks like you're just having too much fun, Doc!

 

[DocSavage45]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

Paul,

Thanks for checking in. Mamabear is single phase. Got her on craig's list. There was a 5hp single phase but it went quickly. My Craftsman was a pretty good saw. I kept her in good condition for 20 years. I was saving to by the 5 hp grizzly, and even asked the techs there about it. Single phase. This was half the cost and no shipping but I drove 2 hours to pick her up. Each way! The guy was a cabinet builder for 20 years and still going strong. All Grizzly tools? He was buying the new one because the rl has the riving knife, and this one had been in service for many years. Depreciated in his taxes?

Yeah I guess this is fun. More like relief? Making order out of chaos. LOL!

 

[horky]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

Doc, you might want to consider putting an extension on the right end. You have rails hanging out that way than can be used. Your router could be mounted in this extension. As for the outfeed table and limited space, I have mine off the back and it folds down for saw movement storage when not in use. Some pics..

 

[longgone]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

Thomas…You could always add a router lift to your table saw extension extension table. I have an extension table on my saw that is 36 wide and 96 long and have considered installing a router lift at the far end. I couldn't use my rip fence as a router fence also as is dome with the router installed on the wing. I have to figure the best way to have a router fence for it that is easily removable since it is an extension table and work table…
I do have a separate router cabinet but a second setup would always come in handy to keep from frequent bit changes.

 

[DocSavage45]

Outfeed table with router?

My ol' 1023sl grzzly mama bear has just had her face lift. LOL I'm getting the materials together and clearing space to install my 220 line. Thanks for the advice!

Looking around on LJ's for an outfeed table that will serve as router table and assembly table. Shop space where sawing will occurr is narrow. For saftey reasons and mobility I thought I'd like to do a multipurpose table?

Found collapsable, dedicated, Norm lookalikes, and even checked out Woodwhisperer, cause Mark usually has something.

Problem: The router tables on saws are in extension, and my space is limited. The outfeeds are flat surfaced with slots for sleds, or mitergage.

Has any one built something similar to my multipurpose outfeed table?

What might be the challenges?

Thanks

Input is appreciated,

FYI the width of my shop is about 13 ft. At present the frankenbench I built was to the hieght of my old craftsman. The bear is lower even with the dolly. I built it to do metal work or heavy pounding, and anchored to the wall. Live and learn? This has to go, but only one section. The outfeed table appears to be my only option regarding space consideration?
My Idea is to add layers to the table surface eg. a sheet of 1/2 inch laminated mdf or plywood to be the assemblytable. Can use it to protect saw surface as well?

Router lift? Maybe out of my pocketbook range right now, and I have a 2.5 hp HP plunge router for heavier routing w/ hardwoods. I have a porter cable router for dovetail etc. And a good old craftsman from days gone by w/ router table. Not great but will get me started?

Charles Neil has a heavy table specific to heavy routing, made from an old door. The trigger for the multiple use idea.

Thanks guys, gotta go do some chores since I just got home.

Later

 

[DocSavage45]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

 

[LittlePaw]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

Getting there is half the fun, Doc! Then the joy of using it starts! :O

 

[gfadvm]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

That's good news. All my 220 tools have dryer plugs as that's what was handy!

 

[longgone]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

Glad to hear that your shop is progressing. Before you know it we will all be singing the praises of Thomas projects posted on Lumberjocks…!

I have four 220 circuits in my shop and wish I had installed more…install as many as you possibly can and you will be glad in the long run.

 

[DocSavage45]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

LOL! Thanks guys. I will have to have the electrical inspector in to give final approval. He comes back every year to see if I have finished. Had to use the correct stuff. The first time he came in he pointed at several of my clever ideas and told me to "change them!"

Helps re insurance to have inspection.

Greg it may be awhile ..have to make errors to learn my tools? re measured the shop width…11 ft 6" It used to be a sinle stall attatched to my small animal barn. Hind sight is 20-20? I've so much hind sight I can walk backwards.

 

[mojapitt]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

Just keep plugging away. Big projects coming in the near future.

 

[DocSavage45]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

You guys lead the way. I'll try to follow. LOL! gotta go do some chores.

 

[NormG]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

But you have the tool running, congrats

 

[DocSavage45]

"Houston we have lift off!"

Quick update: Installed a new metal conduit 220 single phase line for the mama bear 1023sl grizzly. NEMA has made some changes since this saw was built. 20 amp circuit has a different plug and socket. Found it out through trial and error and Google. I had the sticks of conduit sitting for a few years, and found my bender. Took awhile and some wrong bends, but I got it together and pulled the wire. ( Wouldn't pay me for the job…LOL!)

I was going to wire an extension cord for 20 amp 220, but I didn't pay attention to the socket purchase. "Oh Dah!" so I have to exchange it. GRRR! My local Ace/Fleet Farm does not carry 220 stuff unless it is for appliances. Fortunately I'm going to work tommorrow, around 44 miles away.

The good news is " Mama bear fired up and running. Blade running true".

Next step is back to my dollies that have rails that are too short and Northern Tool doesn't sell them now…sigh!

Will be cutting rails for my dolly that will go under my jointer/planer. Which is the next assembly project.

And the saga continues…inch by inch I now have a foot! And a tool completed.

NormG Thanks!