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So my bday is coming up and i get about $50 to spend on a hand tool. Been searching around eBay and don't know info should get a handsaw or 2 or a hand plane. (I want to be able to restore what i get).

My question is, is eBay a good place to find some decent deals? I have been searching on Craigslist which is the only other site I can think of for buying tools.
 

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http://www.timetestedtools.com/

For hand planes ^

http://lumberjocks.com/messages/new/ErikF

Message Erik for hand saws ^

My question is, is eBay a good place to find some decent deals?

Not really, after shipping costs and buying sight unseen it's more
of a gamble. Some times there's a gem here or there but not as much
anymore.

Purchase from your fellow LJer's and you'll be better off. YMMV

Happy Birthday and a belated welcome to LumberJocks.
 

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E-bay's prices seam to have gone up from years back when I bought a lot of tools from them,but when I did buy I always did comparison shopping and read the description a couple times and the shipping cost and ALWAYS check out the seller and see what others have to say about them.
As for which tool to buy, buy the one you think you will use the most.
 

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YMMV - Your Milage Might Vary - i.e. your experience might be different.

My question is, is eBay a good place to find some decent deals?

- Spazy
Sometimes, but you really have to know what you are looking for and at. It's difficult to find true bargains on the 'bay because of the number of buyers, but they are out there. It's also possible to drop your money on something worthless.

Besides Waho's recommendations, another good place to look for good used tools is Brass City Records. By all accounts, Walt is a good guy to deal with and will make sure you get a solid tool that can be made to work well.

There are also several LJ's besides Don and Erik that dabble in selling planes and saws. If you could be more specific about what you want, there are probably people on this site that can fix you up.
 

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I am looking for a cross cut saw, a rip saw. And hand planes mainly the ones I will need to do some rough work. One that need some finishing so I can learn to sharpen and restore a hand tool. I don't have a very large budget, but I am fine with waiting in between purchases to get a good quality saw or plane like a disston or Stanley.
 

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And hand planes mainly the ones I will need to do some rough work. One that need some finishing so I can learn to sharpen and restore a hand tool.

- Spazy
I'd strongly suggest getting your first plane in ready to use condition. That way when you buy others that need work, you'll have some idea of what you are shooting for.

As a matter of fact, I have a Stanley #5 that has been my rough work jack plane for a couple years that is now redundant-I purchased a plane a few months ago that has replaced it. One cheek was cracked and brazed before I ever came across it, but the repair is well done and it's worked just fine for me. PM me your address and it's yours. That way you can use your budget to buy another plane or the saws. You'll have to be a bit patient, as I'll be out of town the rest of the week for work, but can get it to you next week.
 

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You buy a plate, you buy a back, you buy some split nuts, you make a tote. The saw works but in a few years you realize the tote could be better, so you make a new tote. You keep the old one because its a memory.

Next thing you know you're passing the saw down to your grand kids.
 

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You might want to check out Patrick Leach's Blood and Gore web site and sign up for his monthly list. This is not a bargain basement kind of thing but everything I've purchased from Patrick has been exactly as described. He has a long history in the vintage tool world and just reading his site will give an education in what to look for. I've also had great experiences with all the LJ's I've dealt with, you can trust them to be fair.
 

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Ebay is a good place to buy tools but you have to do your research, know your tools and check up on the seller before buying. For more expensive stuff it's also important to communicate with the seller before placing a bid. You have to check for red flags and inconsistencies and ask questions that only the genuine owner of the item would be likely to know.

I recently purchased a laser engraver off eBay and am very happy with it. The needed repairs were exactly what I'd anticipated and it's a fully functional and well-maintained piece of equipment for less than half the cost of a new machine.

Most auctions aren't that great. With the above purchase, I looked through dozens of listings and found most of them were high risk or over-priced. The gems are hidden in between.
 

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Jay T, that was a very nice act on your part.

Spazy, check around and look at flea markets and antique shops. I have a couple of saws that I bought from an antique store that I think I paid about $5 a piece. They are not great to look at, but they will be good practice for sharpening and restoring, so that I have the skills when I find a real gem. I just made sure that the saw was straight, and that the teeth were not all over the place and/or missing.

You will have your #5 plane from Jay, which can do a lot of work for you. If you only have one plane, that is the one to have. Get a crosscut and rip saws, and learn to sharpen them. There are a lot of great resources online for this, especially the vintagesaws site. Get a bit brace and some bits, and you have the basics to cut, smooth, and drill.

Lost Art Press has just released a new video called "The Naked Woodworker". It is about 3-4 hours on two DVDs, and covers what you need to look for when buying user tools. Mike, the guy on screen, goes to a tool swap meet, and spends very little money to obtain a full set of user tools. He then shows you how to fix them up so that they are usable. The second DVD has him using those same tools to build a saw bench and finally a Nicholson workbench. I seem to remember that between all of the tools and lumber, he only spent $571 to obtain everything and build the saw bench and workbench. Not too bad.

A lot of folks like to buy the shiniest or the rarest tools, instead of what you really need, which are user tools. They may be dirty (we call it patina) and dull, but a bit of work on your part gets you something to transform wood into something that you can be proud of.

Watch out for the sellers that are asking top dollar because a tool is old. Old does not necessarily mean valuable. Every non-woodworker with a Stanley #4 wants $80 or more because it is "vintage", but you can find them for $10 or so if you look around.

Good luck.
 
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