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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
As far as duct work is concerned, Ridgid sells a complete system with gates and stuff. You can get it at Home Depot online.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
Cool. Congrats on the bigger shop. Let us know how the dust collector works. I am still using a shop vac but would like to get a real dust collection system set up some day when I get more space.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
I have the JET DC1100 C with canister with 4" green PVC ductwork and plastic blast gates. It is connected to a 6" jointer, Dewalt 13" thickness planer, Ridgid table saw, Ridgid bandsaw, and Triton Router in a Kreg Table. I use 4" flex hosr to the planer, jointer and JET 22/22 sander. The other tools are connected via a 4" to 2" reducer to one set of the Ridgid DC system mentioned by "Slacker" and a small 1HP portable DC is dedicated to
another set of wall mounted Ridgid tubing and gates dedicated to two drill presses, a scroll saw and a couple of small sanders. I bought one length of Loc-Line flex tubung and just move it from one gate to another depending on which of the smaller tools I am using. I really didn't plan this set up it more or less evolved with additional tool purchases. All in all the suction of the JET DC 1100C works quite well. Take a peek at my workshop to get a better feel of what I was trying to say. LOL Afterall photos are better than words.
http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/Toolz/workshop and http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/Toolz45/Dust%20Collector%20Progress/ and
http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/Toolz45/Workshop%20Photos/
Best wishes. Larry AKA Toolz
p.s. I also have a Ridgid shop van for general clean up and it also get connected to the bottom of the Triton router in addition to the DC line that is connected to the table fence.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
Thanx Slacker, there are actually similar sets available also from Shop-Vac, and Lee-Valley, but I'm hoping to just stick to 4" ductwork, and only reduce to 2" if I utterly have no other choice.

Toolz - thats a nice setup, I didn't think the 1100DC can handle so much ductwork, I was planning on having something much much much shorter and with less splitting - basically have 1 single line running on the wall, and have 'T's off of it with gates for each separate tool- glad to see that the 1100DC can handle so much ductwork. thanx for the words, and the pics! most appreciated.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
Lev:

I upgreded to a grizly canister. Here is the blog on it.

Congratulations on the new shop. Oh and the house to go with it.

I was doing some planing yesterday and filled up the metal trash can and about 25% of the vac bag. Having a clear bag is sure nice.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
I realize this is a pretty old thread but thought I would add that wherever you can try and use wye's instead of T's as they really do cut down on the restriction of airflow.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
good note ahock - in fact, I would consider a T blasphemy - and would NEVER suggest using those for DC ducting as these are the worst aerodynamic parts.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
I don't want to challenge your judgment but I can't see a cartridge filter as being better than a bag, especially in a shop environment. Seems like a cartridge filter would clog much more easily than a bag.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
Matt,
Yes, the cartridge will "clog" faster. The reason it clogs faster is because it is working, stopping the fines (which pass through the bag) from staying air borne. That is why you use the cartridge filter, clog up the filter and not your lungs! A stock bag will filter out particles of 5 microns or larger. A cartride filter can remove particles as small as 0.5microns. It really is your choice, clog your cartridge or your lungs. I'm choosing to clog the cartridge.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
The biggest thing to make me get a DC was the noise of a shopvac. That high pitch whine was real annoying.

MattOD - canisters typically have a handle on the top. It rotates some flappers against the pleats on the inside to knock off the dust and unclog them. I'll typically do it once a day before I first turn it on.
 

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(Finally) Upgrading from a Shop-Vac

So for the longest time I've heard how much a Shop-vac doesnt quite cut it when it comes to larger machines, and how much quieter "real" DC machines are compared to a shop-vac, but being a weekend warrior, my budget is limited, and space was a big issue for me until recently (we just moved, and I have a full garage to work with now - will be blogged soon as well).

Lately I was eyeing some Delta AP400 machines that float on craigslist once in a while for very attractive prices (sub $70) but wasn't sure if that would quite hit the spot as I would like to have ductwork and a more permanent solution rather than plugging/unplugging and moving the DC from one machine to another.

I decided to pass on some good Delta AP400 offers, and wait for another opportunity. That opportunity came last week in the form of a Jet 1100DC unit (1.5HP) for a reasonable price off of craigslist (again). Apparently this unit has been getting rave reviews from Fine Woodworking, as well as Bill Pentz, both are reputable sources. So I now have the 1100DC in my garage, and the next step would be to setup a minimal length of ductwork that will cause the least amount of reduction in performance while still providing me with ample access to the dust makers.

Another important upgrade that I am about to make is to replace the bag top filter with a cartridge filter. I think I will go with the Wynn Environmental Kit as they seem to have a very good customer service, and provide with a lot of information online which I appreciate (as opposed to PSI which still doesn't really have much info on their products- surprisingly) also their kit shows to be the most effective and filters down to 0.5 micron, and is the most cost effective (I'm still trying to keep the financial expanses to the minimal). I will continue this blog as updates progress, and put up some photos once I get the filter conversion on the go.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Wynn filters? or the PSI filters? how do you like them?
I asked the pros of my woodworking friends and they seconded Wynn. Not just the quality of the product but they are also happy with customer support as well.
 

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infiltration.... filter me this, filter me that

I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

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I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

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At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

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After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

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which left me with this doughnut adapter:

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to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
I was able to get a Grizzly paper cartridge and put it on my Grizzly dust collector. It was advertised as an additional filter. But it fit the machine perfectly.

The dust level has improved immensely.
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
this is a possibility for me down the road (I think you even suggested it on one of my posts when i was asking about which DC to go with). I went with a new delta, but at some point may swap out the 1 micron bag for one of these filter cartridges. Can't wait to hear what your experiences are like. Will you be using the DC in the interim until the piping is in place? thanks for the post.
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
It sounds like you had your work cut out for you. The doughnut doesn't look bad but you could paint it the color of the DC and you may not notice it. I like to see people taking care of their lungs. Let us know how well it works. Does it tell you what % at 0.3 microns? and how much resistance will that put on the motor?
Thanks for the post, very detailed. Good luck with it.
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
Bob42 - it's 99.99 % efficient at 0.5 micron… and 99.94% at 0.35 micron. As for painting the doughnut - call me lazy, but thats just way too much work to put into an adaptor doughnut for the dust collector - sure the thought has crossed my mind… but it has crossed it pretty fast.

HokieMojo - yes, I did mention it on one of your posts, and it was your post that woke me up and got me to make the call to Wynn to place the order - so - thank you! and yes- I am using the collector as is for now with the short flex hose (seen in the photo) plugged in to one machine at a time (bandsaw/tablesaw/jointer) until I get the piping done (still can't find 6" 2729 ASTM pipes locally…. and am in no rush at the moment)
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
Here's to a big healthy bag of Purpleheart dust for you. Great adaptation. Can't hardly see any horrific damage to that top flange.
 

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I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

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I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

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At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
Thanks for the info. I have a new Delta 50-760 and when I run out of the bags I will switch to something like that.
 

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infiltration.... filter me this, filter me that

I ordered a 0.3 micron replacement filter from Wynn Environmental to replace my Jet DC1100 30 micron bag.

Originally I was going to make a simple review for people to benefit from my experience with the new filter I got… but since it had gotten a bit more complicated, I figured this is blog-worthy, and the 'regular' review will follow once I experience more the performance of the filter.

Disclaimer: I have had nothing but great experience from Wynn Environmental, from their information advertising on their website, to the ordering process over the phone. the complication of my filter replacement is purely caused by my missing of information, and being over-excited about this upgrade that I didn't take the time to do it one step at a time.

So… on with the story:

I got my Jet DC1100 a while back off of craigslist at a bargain price after hearing good things about it, with the plan to eventually replace the lousy 30 micron filter bag with a better cartridge filter.

After doing much research online (Bill Pentz site, Wynn Environmental site, Penn State Industries, LJ, FWW, PWW, and anywhere else I could get info) I decided that the Wynn Environmental replacement filters would work best for me. this came down based on price (~$103), filteration quality (0.3 micron), and the fact that their set was designed to retrofit single-stage-dust-collectors like mine.

Automotive tire Gas Automotive design Engineering Wood


I ordered the set from WynnEnv. and was awaiting patiently for it to arrive, which it did very shortly. I was so ready to just take it out of the box, take off my bag filter, pop the new cartridge filter on, and call it a day.

thats when I had to wake up and smell the coffee. the cartridge filter wouldn't fit inside my collector easily. being excited and pumped to see this thing installed I tried to bend the top of the dust collector wider to accommodate the cartridge size to no avail. Although the diameter size difference was very minor, it was large enough to block the catrridge from going in. unfortunately the top of my dust collector is slightly bent now - minor, and only cosmetic - but still , kinda sucks.

Drinkware Automotive tire Wood Adhesive Household supply


At this point the party was over. I figured I need to research this some more, and find another solution.

After going back to the Wynn Env. site, I found out that the Jet DC1100 has 2 models.. a new one in which their filter fits easily, and an older version that has a smaller rim in which the filter will NOT fit. they suggest a fabrication of a doughnut ring to overcome this size matter. I was really hoping not to have to fabricate anything, but I guess the important thing is to have the 0.3 micron filter - so fabrication here we come.

The fabrication calls for a doughnut ring to be made that will seal the top of the dust collector and will set a platform for the filter to sit on, with an opening large enough to match the filter opening.

I have decided to make this ring out of MDF which I had at hand, which will also have a nicer look to it then plywood.

NOTE: while working with the MDF I was working with a shop-vac (set with HEPA filter AND filter bag) hooked to the router, AND a filtered face mask

I used the BOSCH edge-guide with my router as a circle jig by taking off the guides' edges - this is an awesome edge guide and I find it very useful in many applications.

the first cut I made was a bullnose slot 1/4" deep (2 passes, taking 1/8" in each) this slot is where the dust collector top will be mounted in. Since this is not a through cut, and is located inside the finished ring, I cut this first before removing any material from the ring - giving me a more stable (larger) area to support the router (before taking any of that material out). The diameter of the slot was set to match the diameter of the top of the dust collector

Gas Automotive tire Tool Flooring Machine


After routing the slot, I added 1" to that diameter, and made a cut through (3 passes, taking off 1/4" in each pass). After I had the disk cut out, I then cut the inner opening 2" inside of the slot diameter (again 3 passes, taking 1/4" in each pass)

Sander Automotive tire Wood Drilling Gas


which left me with this doughnut adapter:

Brown Table Wood Automotive tire Beige


to air-seal between the doughnut and the disk I filled the slot with silicone sealer (used for kitchens/baths) and placed it on top of the dust collector, once the silicone dries it will be sealed, but can be ripped out if necessary in the future.

after the doughnut was on the dust collector, I centered the filter on top of that, and with hooks fastened it to the dust collector from the inside.

Filter part is done… now lets replace the fabric collection bag with the plastic ones - those are much better (air tight, and transparent)... alas these are simply nylon bags and are wider then the dust collectors' body diameter, plus there is no way to clamp them to the dust collector - luckily the filter bag was clamped to the dust collector with a ring clamp which I was able to use for the nylon bag. to be honest - it was a nightmare clamping that thing to the machine as the nylon kept on slipping down while I was trying to get the clamp around it and clamp it in place. Wynn suggests to use tape to hold the bag in place while clamping it -which works, but it would have been nice if this was more 'user-friendly'. I might opt to take the plastic bag, and place it inside the original Jet fabric collector bag for easier mounting.

so Here is the outcome:

Gas Engineering Automotive tire Machine Composite material


All in all, not the installation process that I had in mind, not the look that I was aiming for (doughnut), first impression of bag replacement is kinda iffy, but we'll see how that goes. going down from 30 micron filteration to 0.3 - PRICELESS! (and all for less than half the cost of a brand name cartridge dust collector setup that only goes to 1-3 micron)

Can't wait to fill that bag up already!

EDIT:
I have painted the disk with rustoleum (appliance epoxy) and it matches (almost perfect) the Jet finish paint:

Motor vehicle Gas Automotive design Machine Automotive tire


I also took the clear plastic bag from Wynn Env. and place it inside the original Jet cloth lower bag which has a rubber strip on the top to hold it in the DC - this way I get the plastic bag efficiency, with the built in ease of taking the bag off and putting it back on (no need for metal rings and clips)
Thanks, Purplev, great info.

I just got my new DC delivered last night, this is a timely post! I'm short on floor space (and cash!) so I opted for Rockler's new wall-mount DC, which comes standard with a 30 micron bag… I'm going to check out the sites you mentioned, see if I can come up with an improvement to that.

I'm planning on building a filtration system out of plywood using standard sized furnace filters (HEPA and/or sub 1 micron) to circulate the air in the shop, but I think I'll also have to improve on the DC. I'm in the basement, and I've got little kids… don't need all that dust filtering through the floors and whatnot!

Thanks!
 

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