[talle]

New to LJ and have been watching posts for sometime. I am trying to get additional information on a new TS from Delta that seems to be available at lowes. You can see it here:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_510897-52010-36-725_0__?Ntt=delta+10+inch+table+saw&UserSearch=delta+10+inch+table+saw&stop_mobi=yes&productId=50081568&rpp=12

Has anyone used this table saw yet? I can't find much information besides what is posted on the lowes website. Any additional info would help me in making a purchase decision. Thanks.

 

[paxorion]

Nice find talle. I noticed they were clearing out the Porter Cable PC270TS at my local Lowes. Seems like this may be the replacement. I'd be curious to see if this saw will be a more legitimate competitor to the R4512, given that the fence might be an adaptation of the Delta T2 (image hints to split rails)

 

[talle]

Paxorion - Your right, I see the split rail now that I look closer, didn't notice it before. Well I guess you get what you pay for. This still looks like it could be a decent saw though. With the brand delta it could definitely be a decent challenge in the lower-end contractor/hybrid saw market. Not sure how mobile it would be, I can only see the one caster on it. Can't wait to see it in the store tor check it out.

 

[knotscott]

Can't help but wonder if it's a made specifically for Lowes. I'd like to get a glimpse under the hood…...the specs on Lowes website say it weighs less than 200#, which is pretty light for a full size cast iron saw.

 

[Tedstor]

Talle- it has three wheels.
The Delta badging is promising, but while Delta has made some nice machines over the years…..they've also made some crap too. The Shopmaster series comes to mind. I too am looking forward to seeing it in the store for a closer look. I'll likely be ready to move-on from my Craftsman 113 if/when the right deal presents itself. This type of saw might fit the bill IF its actually better than my 113. I currently use a Delta T2 fence, so I'd have no problems taking it off the craftsman, and slapping it on this new Delta saw- negating the split front rail.

Knott- I noticed the weight too. Is it possible that the "skin" of the saw is plastic? Conventional wisdom would prefer a metal, but I can't think of why a plastic skin would be necessarily be inferior (on a contractor saw).
I can't think of many other ways they could save on weight.
Of course, the specifications might just be mis-stated too. I've caught typos on Lowes specifications before.

 

[paxorion]

Lowes seems to have 2 new saws rolling out, this Delta, which I have a strong belief that it will have a LOT in common with the Porter Cable PC270TS. The second is a Kobalt benchtop table saw? (likely a follow-up/alternate to the Porter Cable PC220TS).

 

[knotscott]

I've seen TS weights listed that didn't include the weight of the fence too. It's belt driven, which is a positive. Looks to have steel wings. The blue knobs are kinda neat….the split front rail is not. If anyone sees one in a store, please take some pics, and tell us more about what you see!

 

[bondogaposis]

I wonder if the trunnions are cab or table mounted?

 

[Mattador]

Hi guys. I'm new to the forum. I just got back from my local lowes and saw this saw. I got excited and came home to research it since I though I'd read on every saw in the price range. I wish I'd seen this post before hand or I'd have taken some pictures. Unfortunately I can't find much on it so guess it's pretty new.

I didn't look too cloes since I was in a rush, but def looked like table mounted trunnions, and no mention of trunnions on their site. But if it doesn't have the alignment issue of the riidgid, then I think I might be sold. I like that it's delta. If I decide to try it out I'll do a review.

 

[jonah]

200lbs seems very light for an induction motor plus cast iron top. I think my Ridgid 3650 is about 275-300.

I wonder how thick the top is.

The arbor is a standard 5/8" one. I'm sure it can handle a normal ~7/8" width dado set.

 

[knotscott]

As far as cabinet mounted trunnions go, some of the modern designs have cheapened them to the point where it's nearly more of a marketing feature than a functional design advantage. The big cast iron yoke style cabinet mounted trunnion brackets are heavy and expensive to manufacture. Some of the newer hybrids that offer cab mounted trunnions are now using much smaller trunnion brackets that are very similar in size and duty rating to typical table mounted trunnions, except that they mount to the cabinet strut instead of the table…...it's still a step in the right direction and should still make them easier to reach and align, but don't confuse them with what's on an industrial cabinet saw or even some of the early hybrids like the Steel City/Orion Craftsman and Ridgid saws. It's still best to take a good look under the hood to see what's there, as opposed to reading the term "cabinet mounted trunnions" in the specs…they're not all created equally. As always, pics are worth a thousand words:

Cabinet mounted trunnions on a PCB270TS:

Cabinet mounted trunnions on a Cman 22116 and Ridgid R4511:

Grizzly G0690:

G1023RL:

 

[roofner]

Wheels might be a problem they look to be on the small size compared to most contractor saws.

 

[wormil]

Contractor saws do not usually have wheels unless you add a mobile base. Makita calls their machine a contractor saw but it's really a bench saw on wheels.

 

[Riowood1000]

It looks like a descent saw. I would love to see pics of the guts.

 

[Ice99]

Hello,
I am new to this site and just joined because I am looking to start a few wood projects. I have an old old ryobi 10 table saw and it has seen better days, and needless to say I was in Lowes and saw the 36-725. I don't know anything about saws but I have been reading a lot of reviews and watching videos. For some reason I kinda narrowed down my choice to the delta 36-725 and the ridged 4512. The r4512 seems to get good reviews but I worry about the number of people swapping out their fence. When I was looking at the 36-725 in the store it seemed light and because two of the wheels are always in full contact with the ground it did not seem as sturdy or as immovable as some of the reviews and videos of the 4512. Again I don't know much about saws so I am not sure what my priorities are. I will be moving the saw around the shop and I share it with the cars. In my near future I have a project that I will be ripping about 30 -3/4 sheets of plywood. And would love to build some shop cabinets some day so accurate fence rips are important. I could be wrong but it kinda seems like the delta fence is better? Does anyone know for sure based on experience or knowledge also I have a 25% of harbor freight coupon that I could use on the R4512 so it would be about 412-430 with tax vs the delta at 600-636. Also being able to put a zero clearance and a dado blade set is a requirement.

Thanks

 

[wormil]

This Delta is too new and there are too many variables with the new ownership for anyone to make predictions. Historically Delta has produced excellent saws and beginning with the Unifence then Biesemeyer acquisition their fences have been 2nd to none. No personal experience with the T2 (which this fence should be based on) but by all reports it is an accurate and reliable fence. The Rigid is a pretty good saw for the money but with the alignment issues I would look hard at alternatives. No experience with the Rigid fence either but people do tend to upgrade.

The new Delta seems aimed more at contractor/light woodworking duty hence the lightweight and wheels. It will be interesting to read reviews once some of these get sold.

 

[inventingdreams]

I just bought one of these. I upgraded from a Ridgid TS2424 and I will say this is a HUGE improvement.

#1 - Fence: Rock solid, very comparable to biesemeyer. (it IS a split rail, I have no idea why thats an issue for anyone. mine aligned very easily)

I love the positive stops on the miter gauge.

The fence and angle guides are easy to read and can be dialed in a lot more accurately than other contractor saws I have used.

The blue knobs lock settings in place (I have always thought this should be a standard feature.)

All the accessory storage eliminates the need for custom solutions.

Dust collection could be improved easily but the stock port is pretty good but not great.

The base is very sturdy (lots of rubber o floor surface area) and easy to level while the single caster on one side makes it extremely easy to move around when necessary.
(I do think the pedal should have been on the left side for easier access.)

The weight reduction is probably a result of thin casting and sheet metal wings (I plan on replacing these with MDF/formica tops and router extension anyway). (Skirts are all sheet steel btw)

Here's a couple extra pics. Not great but more than currently on the web. Ill post more once I have a chance to use it more and do a full review later. The first picture is my old saw on my stand that I just build from reused lumber. I plan on putting a similar router table extension on this new saw.

Oh yeah, I found this post looking for a phenolic zero clearance insert. So if anyone knows where I can get one let me know, Thanks.

 

[JoeLyddon]

Whenever I see WATTS… AMPS… I feel they are playing games forcing everyone to utilize Ohms Law!

Why do they have to resort to play games?

Why can't they just simply tell you HP… Horse Power… !!

That, IMHO, is the standard of power measurement of Table Saws, etc.

If they cannot say HP, I tune them OUT right then… NO MORE thought wasted!

 

[Ice99]

Thanks for the advice and pictures everyone!

 

[Ice99]

Tyler,
Do you have any problem with the throat plate screws not mounting flush with the throat plate, the display model at lowes did not look good, wanted to know if that was because they did not set it up properly or design flaw. Thanks