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If you are buying your patterns they glue them on to the wood , don't do that!!!

Print copies of the original patterns or pictures and file away the originals because some will want some they saw and call you for some of what ever you make but already sawed up the patterns!
 

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So, you are probably allowed to make copies for your own use, but they probably don't want you giving them away to a lot of people. They may depend on the income from selling their patterns and you would be hurting those people by just giving away copies. Your generosity is at someone else's expense.
 

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I have over 120 completed things hanging on the walls or sitting somewhere in my house I have carved since 2016 when I started carving... all that are missing have gone to relatives and hope they are still enjoying them as much and they said when we gave the things to them..
I more or less am practicing my transformation from regular wood working to something I enjoy better.
I figure those that post their pictures on the computers what their things to be seen so I am just helping them out.. None of my wood carvings are for sale.
The only thing I show here is examples of what folks can do if they would get off the sofa and go to the shop and try their luck.
Some of the pictures I try to down load have been fixed so their pictures does not open up on my computer. Sometimes I get a hold of the owners of certain pictures and some times I try very hard to contact them but they usually don't have any way of contacting them even though not to sell them. If they do I try even though I am not wanting to sell any for money..
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I have over 120 completed things hanging on the walls or sitting somewhere in my house I have carved since 2016 when I started carving... all that are missing have gone to relatives and hope they are still enjoying them as much and they said when we gave the things to them..
I more or less am practicing my transformation from regular wood working to something I enjoy better.
I figure those that post their pictures on the computers what their things to be seen so I am just helping them out.. None of my wood carvings are for sale.
The only thing I show here is examples of what folks can do if they would get off the sofa and go to the shop and try their luck.
Some of the pictures I try to down load have been fixed so their pictures does not open up on my computer. Sometimes I get a hold of the owners of certain pictures and some times I try very hard to contact them but they usually don't have any way of contacting them even though not to sell them. If they do I try even though I am not wanting to sell any for money..
Jess Littlefield
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Sorry I hurt your feelings about what I carve.!
Another place I get my patterns from is the books my wife buys of pictures she uses in her stained glass shop which she does sell her things she makes and I add frames to all the things that hangs on the wall. These books can be bought from stained glass sales places. Rectangle Creative arts Horse Art Wood
 

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Computers can be used to manipulate images in enumerable ways. From plain copying them to changing the size, colors, shapes, to adding and subtracting parts. For images I can't download I get a image by making a screen shot and work with that. In the case of saving originals you can scan them into your computer and then print copies as needed, also adjusting the size if needed.
 

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I have never bought a pattern as I make my own... but I'm curious about the copyright issues brought up in this thread. If I make a pattern from a copyrighted photo, does that constitute a copyright violation? For example, I found this picture in a Jeep ad online, and copied the photo to make the pattern. I'm sure that Jeep would claim ownership (and copyright) to the photo - even if just implied.

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Does my work violate copyright, or is it sufficiently different to be a work of it's own? The resultant work is not an exact reproduction, and it's definitely using a vastly different medium, so I believe I can consider it my own work of art and ownership. I don't sell them though, so I'm not really all that concerned... just curious.

I've seen many examples of this - particularly with photos of famous people. A quick google search for 'scroll saw portraits' turns up dozens ;)

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Copyright issues are such a big can of worms, and still being sorted out in the courts, including the Supreme Court.
Brad if you really want to see the dark side of this, make a plaque with Harley Davidson graphics on it and then post photos all over social media, just kidding, but you get my point.
Jeep on the other hand may feel that this adds to their advertising and so they don't mind.
I attend local craft fairs to check out my local competition ( don't really have any ). I see lots of copyrighted items for sale, IMHO there will come a day of reckoning for many of these folks ( and they will drag the rest of us, mostly honest, down with them ).
I try to be very careful of where my patterns come from. On my computer are folders labeled "friends and family only" so I don't cross the line. The magazine inserts that I have all have disclaimers on them about how many copies are allowed. Certain pattern makers state " ten items per pattern and when you make more than 20 of an item a commercial license is required" (Sue Mey) others state "no commercial use, cannot make an item and sell it" (Fiona Kingdon) and then there's Steve Good, God bless him.
 

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This is why I build my own art. If I wanna Jeep, I take a pic of a jeep and then process the hell out of it and add other elements to make it uniquely mine. Like a tattooist, I may combine several "stock" generic elements into a unique whole.
This avoids copyright issues on using someone else's work, but now you need to establish your copyright by "publishing" the work - in your case, in wood.
I do this for almost everything, I draw my own plans, I make my own designs, and the little details are mine. Much more satisfying to not be derivative.
 

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I do the same thing. If I get an image from somewhere to use as a carving pattern I don't sell the item. I give it to someone. The act of giving is good for you.
We use to go to the craft fairs and had a few garage sales but the people was looking for sales like the sign said, cheap. The offers I got were running like 50 cents an hour for my work not counting my cost,so my decision to give them away satisfied my little brain and made me happy to be able make some one smile, my wife!

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Some of my relief woodcarvings are based on graphic designs of M. C. Escher, so I have given some thought & study to the copyright issue. There are many derivative works in other media (like T-shirts). This article describes the problem of lithographic prints being sold as Escher originals:
Is my M.C. Escher print real? - M.C. ESCHER ART (mcescherart.com)
I do not have a definitive answer to the question of copyright infringement. So far I have not been sued by Escher's heirs or a "cease and desist" letter from the Escher Foundation, but I would never claim this carving was done by him. He died 50 years ago.
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I expect that when I buy a "how-to" book from Lora Irish (for example) that I can reproduce an article in that book, especially if it is a tutorial. With my first green man, I noticed that the one she had on the cover was different from the one in the tutorial. Coming from a mechanical design background, that was a liberating discovery! If I designed something, it had to meet the dimensioning and tolerancing requirements. In fact, my green man didn't really look like hers in every detail...which was artifact of my skill (or the lack thereof). But they are still not for sale, only freely given away, if at all.
 
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