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Plastic lumber to me is an oxymoron.

I have used vinyl trim for around an exterior door if that counts.

For me, I can't see the use of how plastic lumber would look good. I would use it only as a substitute for wood in a situation were exterior durability came into consideration. Although, if it is a project that I am spending time on, and want to have pride in, I would use white oak or another suitable exterior wood.

I would be interested in seeing some projects from this though. Some of the people on this site have phenomenal creativity.

This makes me think of when we were designing a kitchen for our house. We were looking at counter top materials - corian, tile, etc. Every product compared itself to granite. They would say " almost as hard as, or similar look to, or almost as able to take a hot object like granite" We had to ask ourselves why we were not shopping for granite since everything else was trying to emulate it. Just like natural stone, I don't see anything man made being able to be a substitute for the natural beauty of wood.
 

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I agree, it would only be for specific projects, such as plastic furniture
its more of an outdoor use, the lumber I refer to can be bought in standard sized (2×4 etc) and is solid all the way through. it lasts outside just about forever and can endure sun/rain/salt water and doesn't rot etc
 

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I take exception to Corian being lumped in with plastic, lumper or otherwise. It is an amazing material for furniture or other craft projects. It works easier than wood and is almost as hard as rock. You don't have to put any finishes on it to protect it or "beautify" it. Because you can heat and bend it, it saves a lot of cutting and carving.

Lets face it, I am partial.
 

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I have very mixed feeling on plastic vs wood. Short term this plastic stuff may look great… BUT, after a few years did all your hard work turn to junk? I don't know the answer, yet 30 years ago plastic siding was the rage and today it's discolored, warpping and falling off, it had a lifetime warranty. Only problem was trying to get your house re-sided with a company that no longer around.

I vote no…. to plastic and yes to the real thing, Wood!
 

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I was watching some tv show on the DIY Network I believe and they built a doghouse using the plastic composite lumber. It's made from sawdust and wood chips and recycled plastics I believe. Anyway, it is very durable to the outdoor environment and holds up to weather well, but did have some drawbacks. For instance it doesn't have the same strength of regular wood. If you were doing something like a deck made from it (not sure if that's reccommended even, but using it as an example) you would have to increase the supports and decrease the spacing between the support beams. As far as furniture, you would probably just have to use thicker stock than if you were to use regular wood. So, if finishing wood for exterior use isn't your thing, then iit might be a good option.
 

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Tim,

I get the impression you are here as a salesperson moreso than as a LJ.

Having a career tied to sales and sales management, I am actually not offended by the "pitch" here to get us to your website. As a more creative approach, my suggestion would be to talk to your people to see if you could put together some type of contest using your materials, and then contact the LJ admin people to see what could be arranged as a paid sponsor. With the right approach you might be able to inspire some to try your product.
 

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If Trex decking is plastic wood then yes I have used it. Last year I built two decks out of trex….It was easy enough to work with and does have some advantages, however It is not the same as wood! Yes it can be ripped in one inch strips easily enough, actually I ended up ripping it into about 1/4 inch strips. But I would much much rather work with the real thing! It is excessively hard on saw blades as well as drill bits. It twists and bows and warps for no apparent reason…...but the bottom line…..it just doesn't smell right when you are cutting it. But money is money and a job is a job…...and someone told me long ago the customer is always right.
 

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Trex is awesome! Very strong from a structural aspect. Also it doesn't have the expansion / contraction issue that HDPE (high density poly Etheline) has. probably would be a little bit harder to cut/work with due to its high density etc.
 

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I knew that you would catch that. I could have said that Maple is almost as hard as Corian or Hickory is almost as easy to work with. They often say that a mineral is almost as clear as glass. Sometimes someone will say that a piece of furniture is almost as beautiful as the tree that it came from. Lets face it, when we make someting out of a natural material it is no longer natural or maybe it is. Are we not as much a part of nature as a beaver. We don't think of of a beaver dam as being unnatural but it is made by a mamal just like us. A diamond is rather ugly until it is cut and polished. A piece of firewood is not much to look at until it is turned into a fine bowl. Corian, Trex, Glass and a fine oak table were all once just natural raw materials untill someone made them into something more suited to a purpose.

I am sure that no "purist" would use a synthetic finish… no wait… Oils, varnishes and waxes must be separated and processed first so they too are man made. I rant too long. Just do not dismiss a fine material from whereever it comes.
 
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