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A few Table Saw sleds to look at #1: Double Dubby, Rockler, and Incra sleds

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Blog entry by therealSteveN posted 02-11-2021 10:39 PM 1068 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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So many different things a “sled” can do. I’d be amazed to see the one that could do it all. I just scored big at an auction, sic estate sale I went to. Nobody there, and they had made it all outdoor, Covid proofed it, provided you wore a mask, and did the 6’ thing. I ended up walking away with a Double Dubby, one of the Incra sleds that works with a miter gauge. And one of the Rockler sleds. All brand new, in the box. I was thinking about doing a comparo blog on these similar, yet somewhat different sleds types.

My current problem is no access to my shop, because I have a Toe infection from an ingrown toenail, and am not allowed to walk much, so I can only sneak to the shop when my Guard/Wife isn’t watching. So this may take a while to get done. Currently I have peeked, but for no real reason the Rockler was the first one I put together.

Double Dubby I’m pretty sure will be the winner. Price is higher at $319.00, but ability to swing either way will take a lot of something to beat. Comes with everything you see, and metal guide bars for your miter slots.

https://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/

Rockler is a version of the dubby. It only swings Left, but it has an optional side table for cut offs. A suggested extra. Rockler has sales on both these items so price is hard to peg down, but list for both pieces is $179.00 and the side table is 40 bux. Comes with all shown, and both pieces come with a metal guide bar.

https://www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

The Incra sled. I will say up front, I wouldn’t buy this online. I would only buy this in a store where I could peg down what you got, and for how much. Their stuff can get pricey pretty quick. The actual sled, and side table is $179.00, both with a metal guide bar. You need to add both a miter gauge, and a fence on the miter gauge. It’s here I feel they shot themselves in the foot. The ?connecting bar? on the sled portion is a metal like substance that isn’t real robust IMO. I can see a tendency for flex here, and you are shoving it forward on a miter gauge, and a metal, or maybe wood fence attached to it? I’m not sure why they didn’t just give a solid base, except then they would have had to give you a fence. I believe this is a problem. Possibly users, and lovers of this design can convert me?

Correct me if I am wrong, but all along I thought the purpose to build a sled was to have a solid fence, that was rigidly attached to the base, so the entire thing moved forward as a unit. This was to get away from a miter gauge and a wide fence. Yet here it’s pretty much what you end up with. Both of the others have a fence, that is supposed to securely lock down, similar to a home made sled.

https://www.rockler.com/incra-miter-express-miter-sled?country=US&sid=V91041&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=PL&tid=pla&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=(ROI)_Shopping_-_Top_Sellers&msclkid=be1e11ecd9fe15a331ec71c9474995e0

I’m going to be a little contrary, and add to this my definition of a sled. Seeing that a miter gauge is a solo slot used, and because of that solo slot ONLY, it’s part of the reason a sled is more desirable for accuracy, and repeatability. Why do you ask? Any slop in that travel will decrease your accuracy, and using just the one slot increases the odds of that over using BOTH slots on your saw table top.

So my definition is it isn’t really a sled, until it has two guide bars, one for each slot. So my thought is none of these are actually sleds, just fancy miter gauge platforms.

Let me know if you agree with this or not. I don’t think I have ever seen a thread on the topic of sled classification. So I’m not sure what conventional thought is on that. This is just how I look at them.

Look for more parts, as I get these put together, and hopefully some better pics showing details. Please remember I am not supposed to be walking around.

Foot problems, and Diabetes are a poor mix, so I am trying to take this somewhat seriously.

-- Think safe, be safe



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Madmark2

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#1 posted 02-11-2021 11:10 PM

I lost my l foot to diabetes. It’s not something to mess with. Had Charco (sp?) foot. Started as a thick callous on the ball of my foot. Even tho I wasn’t walking the podiatrist thought I was in marathons.

Neuropathy is painful. When it stops hurting the nerves are dead. It feels better because the pain is gone but its actually worse. It means you can’t feel the pain signals until your foot buckles and you’re doing the ”I’ve fallen and can’t get up” on 911.


Eight months at James A. Haley VA hospital during 2018

Even after the amputation the phantom pain persists. Long term amputees say the phantom pain never fully goes away.

Watch you sugars/diet and good luck!

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 02-12-2021 12:26 AM

I have the “red sled” . It does come as one piece with two metal miter bars. I’ve cut probably 2500 wedges on it for bowls using an Incra miter gauge locked into it. Every once in a while I have to tweak it a little but basically it’s just fine.
I also have 4 other Incra miter gauges with various fences for specific purposes in mind. One is for the band saw and the rest are used on the table saw.
Yep – I like Incra products

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#3 posted 02-12-2021 03:43 AM

Looking at the pic I grabbed for the Incra, it has a wider center piece than the one I posted. It’s that center piece I find suspect. The bar from the miter gauge runs into a channel in it, and it’s cheesy.

Just seems if it was a solid base, it would be better.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#4 posted 02-12-2021 03:52 AM



I lost my l foot to diabetes. It s not something to mess with. Had Charco (sp?) foot. Started as a thick callous on the ball of my foot. Even tho I wasn t walking the podiatrist thought I was in marathons.

Neuropathy is painful. When it stops hurting the nerves are dead. It feels better because the pain is gone but its actually worse. It means you can t feel the pain signals until your foot buckles and you re doing the ”I ve fallen and can t get up” on 911.


Eight months at James A. Haley VA hospital during 2018

Even after the amputation the phantom pain persists. Long term amputees say the phantom pain never fully goes away.

Watch you sugars/diet and good luck!

- Madmark2

Thanks Mark. I was being kind of sarcastic saying I guessed it was serious. 40 years an RN, and almost as long a Diabetic. Familial curse. Yeah I know all about it.

Had been working on my feet every day for years to keep them good. One day poof, great toe looks like a firetruck, right to the ER, admitted, IV antibiotics, yada yada. Healing well, but going weekly to the wound care unit. Podiatrist, and 2 Docs all telling me to act like I’m already dead. It’s just real hard to be going at will one day, and trying to be on bedrest the next. No shop time is a PIA.

My problem sounds something like yours. My toenail is all good now, but at the tip of that toe I had a hard spot pop up they are calling a Granuloma. Podiatrist wacked it off with the nail removal, it’s that part causing the delayed healing issues, but it’s getting smaller, and everyone is happy. Me most of all.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#5 posted 02-12-2021 11:39 PM

Well as they say, when you are “older” and complain about being sore when you get out of bed, be happy. Waking up and not aching is a sure sign you’re dead!

I’ve always given that Incra a drool over whenever they have a sale ad. Functionally it looks like a fine design, especially if you are not into making your own.

Interested to hear about it after you put on a few miles!

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#6 posted 02-13-2021 05:17 AM


Looking at the pic I grabbed for the Incra, it has a wider center piece than the one I posted. It s that center piece I find suspect. The bar from the miter gauge runs into a channel in it, and it s cheesy.

Just seems if it was a solid base, it would be better.

- therealSteveN

Incra…...Two different products. The OP is a Miter 5000 on a full-size saw top. The one posted below it is the Miter Express on a smaller saw top with a 1000se miter gauge which is what I have and it is quite sturdy and accurate to .001”. The miter gauge fence in that pic should at least be on top of the sled.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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