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Blog entry by steliart posted 12-30-2018 03:32 PM 1175 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Dust Collection foot switch kick start

A few years back, I purchased a dust collection remote control which was supposed to be for ALL type of DC as Woodcraft advertised. Unfortunately is not for all types of DC. My DC has a magnetic switch thus the remote system will stop the DC but it will not start the motor, so every time I had to switch in on manually bending down to the motor switch and to stop it I just used the RC by pressing it twice, one time to stop the DC motor and a second time to release the magnetic switch. I have to point out that Woodcraft refund me and didn’t even wanted me to send it back to the US for them.

So it was about time to solve at least half of the problem as I hated it me bending down to switch the machine on.
I search for some ideas online but I guess no one faced a similar problem like me before. So I came up with a simple and dirty solution of making a Foot Kick-Start Switch and… this is what I came up with… nothing fancy or pretty, but it works perfectly and my back thanks me for it.

If anyone has a better idea solution to solve completely this problem, I would love to listen and learn.

Thank you guys and gals wishing you all a very Happy New Year 2019 with lots and lots of saw dust
:) :) :) !!!

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions !!!



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doubleDD

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#1 posted 12-30-2018 04:34 PM

I have nothing to say about the remote switch you bought at WC but what I did is install 4 way 20 amp switches to control my dust collector and shop vac. I mounted them high so I won’t have to bend to turn them on. They are above each of my dust making tools or at least in arms reach. It has been a pleasure to work with these switches since I installed them.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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steliart

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#2 posted 12-30-2018 06:35 PM



I have nothing to say about the remote switch you bought at WC but what I did is install 4 way 20 amp switches to control my dust collector and shop vac. I mounted them high so I won t have to bend to turn them on. They are above each of my dust making tools or at least in arms reach. It has been a pleasure to work with these switches since I installed them.

- doubleDD


Hi Dave
thank you for the tip, any links or photos will be appreciated buddy.
Q. will those switches not have any issues with that magnetic type I have… sorry but I am not very oriented in electronics, just the basic things :)

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions !!!

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#3 posted 12-31-2018 05:50 PM

Hey steli’, just a tad to the left of field, however, more on the topic of mag-switches (phooie 2 them), this is what I did to pimp out my lazy dust extraction habits.

PS. The remote I hang around my neck… and for added safety I always wear pocketted “shirts” so I can slip the hanging remote into the top pocket so it doesn’t dangle down into machinery and drag my fat-rrsed neck and face into cutting blades.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Grumpy

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#4 posted 01-01-2019 02:52 AM

Stellios, there are plugin adapters available now that you can use a hand held remote control on.
I use one to turn the lathe on and off. i don’t know if that would help your situation.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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LittleBlackDuck

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#5 posted 01-01-2019 03:00 AM


Stellios, there are plugin adapters available now that you can use a hand held remote control on.
I use one to turn the lathe on and off. i don t know if that would help your situation.

- Grumpy


Unless I miss read you Grumpy, they will not work directly with a mag-switch. The remote adapters require the machine to be turned on all the time. With mag-switches (and all new higher end serious machines are starting to get them fitted), as soon as the power is turned off, the in-built electro magnet trips the switch so it has to be physically switched back on to activate the mag-switch contact. That’s why I have replaced all my high end mag-switches ($50+) with $3 rocker electric switches which I keep permanently on.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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steliart

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#6 posted 01-01-2019 09:29 AM


Stellios, there are plugin adapters available now that you can use a hand held remote control on.
I use one to turn the lathe on and off. i don t know if that would help your situation.

- Grumpy

Unless I miss read you Grumpy, they will not work directly with a mag-switch. The remote adapters require the machine to be turned on all the time. With mag-switches (and all new higher end serious machines are starting to get them fitted), as soon as the power is turned off, the in-built electro magnet trips the switch so it has to be physically switched back on to activate the mag-switch contact. That s why I have replaced all my high end mag-switches ($50+) with $3 rocker electric switches which I keep permanently on.

- LittleBlackDuck


Thank you guys for the input and help.
LittleBlackDuck: Your link was very helpful. I have an idea now what could be done, but since this is a 240V machine and a Euro type one, I think it would be best to consult an electrician on purchasing the switch and before messing around with it.
Again thank you all and Happy New Year :)

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions !!!

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#7 posted 01-01-2019 10:35 AM



..... but since this is a 240V machine and a Euro type one, I think it would be best to consult an electrician on purchasing the switch and before messing around with it.
- steliart
steli’, I live in Australia and we also have manly 240V not the girlie 110V. All the switches I used are rated at 240V… with the last 3 being a standard 240V light switch…

Nevertheless you are wise in considering feedback from a qualified electrician rather than this son of a Hungarian fern cutter.

Either way, if I have given you some ideas than my intention has been of some value.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#8 posted 01-01-2019 09:47 PM

Stellios, you are well ahead on the topic than I am, best of luck.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#9 posted 01-02-2019 12:07 AM

Remember, the magnetic switches have built in over current protection to protect the motor from damage, as well as being a safety feature to keep the tool from restarting accidentally after a power interrupt ion.

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#10 posted 01-02-2019 04:23 PM



Remember, the magnetic switches have built in over current protection to protect the motor from damage, as well as being a safety feature to keep the tool from restarting accidentally after a power interrupt ion.

- ibewjon


ibewjon thanks for the tip my friend… so is there a suggestion?

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions !!!

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ibewjon

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#11 posted 01-02-2019 05:22 PM

There are many solutions but they can be complicated for someone not familiar with circuts and safety. Since you are not putting your hands in the dust collector, the motor protection is the main issue. For saws, planers, shapers, ect, safety becomes an issue. If the push buttons on your starter are momentary, and pop out after pushing, remote stop and start buttons (switches) can be added. The buttons are the most expensive part you need, the wire and boxes are cheap. All can be found online. Wiring diagrams are also online. If your buttons lock in after starting, ( maintained contact) you can not wire remotely. Sounds like you are in Europe, but 240 v can still be done remotely. Depends on voltage of your call in a magnetic starter. As for Australia, 120 is not wimpy. Touch both sides of a circuts, and you will learn. And it is not volts that kill, it is milli amps and the path through the body. 120 can kill as quickly as 240.

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steliart

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#12 posted 01-02-2019 06:13 PM



There are many solutions but they can be complicated for someone not familiar with circuts and safety. Since you are not putting your hands in the dust collector, the motor protection is the main issue. For saws, planers, shapers, ect, safety becomes an issue. If the push buttons on your starter are momentary, and pop out after pushing, remote stop and start buttons (switches) can be added. The buttons are the most expensive part you need, the wire and boxes are cheap. All can be found online. Wiring diagrams are also online. If your buttons lock in after starting, ( maintained contact) you can not wire remotely. Sounds like you are in Europe, but 240 v can still be done remotely. Depends on voltage of your call in a magnetic starter. As for Australia, 120 is not wimpy. Touch both sides of a circuts, and you will learn. And it is not volts that kill, it is milli amps and the path through the body. 120 can kill as quickly as 240.

- ibewjon


thank you buddy for your time answering me, those info are very useful !!!

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions !!!

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