We have two dogs that love us allot, but not together….they fight when they are out and I am around…that is how I nearly had my leg chewed up a coupe months ago…trying to break up their fight over me…Yes I still have the dogs…wasn't their fault. Anyway, I decided it was time to build a better cage for them. These are 8' deep 8' wide each. The bin at the end is where we store the trash. Still have to paint them.