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Veneer inlay work #6: sras Flooring Tribute Take 2

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Blog entry by robscastle posted 11-18-2019 02:11 AM 1267 reads 0 times favorited 54 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Well I was up and at em early this morning driven by getting my screw up corrected.

I modified the the three templates I had ensuring I could not overshoot the outside inlay into the box.

Here is the setup.

Note there is a definite stop near the clamp on the left of the trimmer.

All went well and I continued on and formed the box area.

Took the template off pleased with myself.

Only to see

I had in fact repeated the same overshoot error again!

Rats, so I decided to make it match the opposite side and hope nobody notices!!

Being absolutely pissed with myself i could just worm out of it that way,... however I needed to convince myself I can actually do it correctly.

Along with this time there were more chunk/chinks than before. Pine is nice and soft to work with but its very unforgiving chip out wise.

This annoyed me no end so I decided to try one more time

Hoo Rah got it right at last, however I still could not shake the chip out problem.
Good thing I wasn’t doing kolrosing I would have slashed my wrists by now!

So out with the woodfiller.

Conclusion:-
1 You can do it but strict attention must be paid at all times.
2. Make sure you practice on scrap first and maybe twice!!
3. Avoid using pine.
4. I am withdrawing my job application to https://www.czarfloors.com/

-- Regards Rob



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pottz

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#1 posted 11-18-2019 03:49 AM

nice try my friend but they wont be calling anytime soon im afraid.that floor is way above my comprehension,so dont feel bad,im not gonna apply either-lol.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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anthm27

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#2 posted 11-18-2019 04:45 AM

Funny, full marks for giving it a go.

Looking forward to our week on the farm next week, I,ll make sure there is some rough work for you to do.

It seems your doing the driving. I,ll tie the Bunya pine slabs to the trailer. Cant wait to get picks of us with our pine slabs,,,, Yiiihaaa

Definitely need to get out of Hong Kong and away from all this tear gas to breathe some fresh farm air.

Cheers
Ant

-- Hand Skills provide freedom.

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crowie

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#3 posted 11-18-2019 06:31 AM

Well done Rob, looks way better than if I’d have had a try…..

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#4 posted 11-18-2019 09:26 AM

rc, I’ve been kicked up my arse by a heavy foot, to try to be nice (damn another anticipated kicking for the heavy aside), maybe out of context, but,
  • Is the router bit pristine… bloody sharp?
  • Maybe use a smaller dia. bit and do multi passes… more jigs.
  • Less depth and more passes.

I love pine but found it cranky… the above few steps have converted a failure into a less failure.

Unless it’s a through route, maybe a test cut on the flip side of the actual material can give you an interpretation of the material. I’ve found that a test piece never behaves the same as the real thing.

Now when it comes to wood filler, I can assure you that people walking over it wont notice… unless it’s a duck with his rrrs close to the ground (and eyes).

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Mark Wilson

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#5 posted 11-18-2019 10:34 AM

Are you familiar with Microfence? Look it up. I’m sure some adaptation could be make to use it on a floor. I see, in my imagination, lath strips, double-sided tape, stops on the lath, and, of course, the aforementioned corner punch chisel.

-- Mark

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#6 posted 11-18-2019 11:50 AM

Rob,

Kudos for trying but Czar Floors is not someone you should be comparing yourself to or you will just throw up your hands and never touch a tool again. If you set the bar too high you will never feel like you have accomplished anything! Keep trying and always keep a good ‘sander’ at hand! (But be careful as we have some tool thieves around here!!!)

Try to behave yourselves next week! I’m too far away to bail you and Anthony out…

-- Mike, A Yooper with a drawl, http://www.artcentergraphics.com

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anthm27

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#7 posted 11-18-2019 12:11 PM



Try to behave yourselves next week! I m too far away to bail you and Anthony out…

- mikeacg

All as I can say Mike is that in all and absolute honesty I wish you where joining us next week. And I truly hope that becomes reality one day.
Kindest regards
Anthony

-- Hand Skills provide freedom.

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EarlS

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#8 posted 11-18-2019 12:35 PM

Add me to the list of jealous LJ’s that would rather be at Anthony’s farm than here.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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robscastle

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#9 posted 11-18-2019 12:35 PM

Micro fence, yeah took a look.
You know I don’t even use the fence that came with my router or trimmer for that matter.
The micro fence does look good I must admit and may beat making templates all the time.

I even have a 3d router carver jig and again hardly ever use it these days, I do enjoy my router though.

In fact it was on one of Anthony’s projects I saw him using the roller bearing guide on his trimmer, again another piece of kit I had never used, although I knew it was in the accessories box.

I even thought about doing free hand routing using a modified guide but passed as being too dangerous.

-- Regards Rob

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robscastle

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#10 posted 11-18-2019 01:06 PM

The process replies.

The router bit:-

Sharp? brand new ebay small 1/4” shaft template follower.

Use a smaller one, its a consideration that’s for sure.
Problem is the smaller you go the more deviations you get if the template has uneven spots in it.
Bit like hitting a pot hole in your scooter.

Less depth more passes certainly a consideration and may be the solution, sras eluded to this in one of his replies.

Using a spiral or compression cutter may also also reduce chip out

-- Regards Rob

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sras

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#11 posted 11-18-2019 03:12 PM

Practice makes perfect! However, I’m thinking that there may be an issue with your template.

You should be able to create the pattern by using the template twice – once for each side. The 45 degree pattern requires 4 set-ups.

The 45 degree set-up also requires that the long slot is a little shorter. For a 90 degree layout the long slot on the box end should line up with the short slot. (Hope that makes sense) If you look at my pics you can see I put a spacer in the long slot to prevent overshoot for the 45 degree layout.

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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Joe Lyddon

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#12 posted 11-18-2019 08:53 PM

Very COOL!

You’re getting the Hang of it… :)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: https://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/index.php

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anthm27

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#13 posted 11-18-2019 11:32 PM



Add me to the list of jealous LJ s that would rather be at Anthony s farm than here.

- EarlS

Earl you are always welcome too, and I also hope that it become reality. I haven’t forgotten we are to meet in Chicago, I haven’t been rostered a trip there since I picked up the Coasters, Hopefully early next year.
Regards
Anth

-- Hand Skills provide freedom.

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robscastle

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#14 posted 11-19-2019 05:41 AM

Secret Men’s (make that boys) business coming up
You should see all the gear I have in my garage!

Here is a bit of a hint.

-- Regards Rob

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crowie

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#15 posted 11-19-2019 08:45 AM

You win the Christmas Raffle Rob??

OR

Have you a secret benefactor??

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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