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Blog entry by robscastle posted 11-06-2019 06:49 AM 411 reads 0 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I guess its pitched to those who have made slab tables.
Mark A. DeCou, Manitario etc

I can assure you I am an expert at finishing slabs most of the time.

However wooden ones are a learning curve for me, so its a few da questions if you please.

1. Do you really need to fit dutch mans or butterfly’s in the cracks?
2. Which is the preferred side to be up, in relation the the live edge the wide side or the narrower side?
3. When using epoxy to fill voids what brands did you use?
4. Also in relation to the epoxy who adds tints and other bits, like fishes duck beagles or cows etc.

I have a few loose screws so I was thinking of adding them along with the key to my motorbike but I was concerned about any corrosive actions that may take place later as a a result of reacting with the epoxy.

The Plan:-

Tomorrow I am getting the slab out and continuing on the second side trimming the ends, drinking beer and generally acting like I know what I am doing.

Other associated trivia:-

5. I wonder how that pregnant cow at Anthony’s place is going I haven’t heard any birth results yet
6. I hope that pump is filling the drinking troughs OK too.

7. Wait for it ...Hey forgot to tell you nearly screwed up big time, when I was there I almost put diesel in his petrol lawn Mower! Good thing he shouted at me from a far!


Research list:-

https://www.woodmagazine.com/how-to-work-with-natural-edge-slabs

-- Regards Rob



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crowie

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#1 posted 11-06-2019 07:13 AM

Great research article thank you Rob…

Looking forward to the photos…

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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LittleBlackDuck

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#2 posted 11-06-2019 07:37 AM

Sorry rc, can’t help you about your table top top (no, not a stutter)... but when it comes to table top bottom I’m a wealth of knowledge based on the time I’ve spent under tables… after a slab.

Embed your keys in a gumbo of sawdust… after it dries, you can epoxy it in… just make sure you label it for later reference, as one ball of sawdust looks much the same as another and you’d like to know which one your key was in..


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5. I wonder how that pregnant cow at Anthony s place is going I haven t heard any birth results yet
.....
- robscastle

Wouldn’t have put it past the ant man to have shoved it back in, hoping for a pony next time…

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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anthm27

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#3 posted 11-06-2019 10:02 AM

Good questions, looking forward to LJ slab experts take.
Personally , I wouldn’t stick stuff like motor bike keys in the epoxy on that slab. I think it would cheapen that lovely piece of wood. I’d go with bright blue epoxy filler and some sought of clear finish over the whole lot. Looking forward to the experts weighing in though.

The Stud Poll Hereford bull calf was born two weeks overdue after a successful artificial insemination. ( Yes Ducky it was with Bull semen not horse semen)t PS, ( the bushies call the whole AI process, “giving them a straw.”)

And Rob You know you still wouldn’t have got sacked if the diesel went in the petrol tank, it would have been fun watching you spend the afternoon removing and draining the tank though.

Best we get organised and pick up those Bunya pine slabs sooner rather than later.

Cheers
Anth

EDIT For the legs Rob I’d consider a very simple welded together sort of 50mm box profile steel frame for it to sit on, actually I may take pencil to paper in the morning with my ideas.

-- To be a true artist one must stick to their own thought process

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#4 posted 11-06-2019 10:21 AM

Just reread one of your questions on filler Rob…

This one has often been talked about as being very good on the Australian Woodwork Forum…

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f198/black-epoxy-resin-139709

https://www.westsystem.com/the-105-system/fillers/

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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anthm27

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#5 posted 11-06-2019 10:28 AM


Just reread one of your questions on filler Rob…

This one has often been talked about as being very good on the Australian Woodwork Forum…

https://www.westsystem.com/the-105-system/fillers/

- crowie

Interesting video Crowie, I’d be tipping the price of that system would be extortion, I,ll look it up in the morning.

EDIT good forum too , as you know, all these things not as readily available in Australia as they are in the US

-- To be a true artist one must stick to their own thought process

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pottz

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#6 posted 11-06-2019 02:25 PM

well im no expert rc but ive done a few.
question 1-ive used them on a crack i feel may open up further although some just use them as decoration.
question 2-it’s up to you but ive always gone with the wide side up,but it might depend on which side looks best.
question 3-for epoxy i just the 5 minute stuff,always works good for me.
question 4-i usually use black or dark brown tints to fill cracks or knot holes but im sure you’ll get more creative than that.id throw some duckfeet in-lol.
good luck buddy,and hey did you decide what the base would be?

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#7 posted 11-06-2019 08:08 PM

  1. Good idea to use the butterfiles on large cracks Rob (which are very likely to keep on exanding) and just fill with expoxy on smaller ones.
  2. I have sold quite a few of natural edge slabs and as pottz says it all depends which way is most pleasing to the eye.
  3. A good boat expoxy should do the trick. Many prefer West System epoxy, but I’m sure there are other good ones out there.
  4. The slabs I sold were entirely covered with epoxy. This leaves the edges (including crack edges) soft and nice to touch and the clearness of the expoxy really makes the slab stand out with all it’s contrasting colors, grains, cracks and natural flaws. This of course would be a matter of personal preference. Normally I don’t care for too much shine on wood, but for me slabs are the exception where a bar-top finish seems more appropriate. Times do change however, and my preferences might be out of date.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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robscastle

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#8 posted 11-06-2019 10:34 PM

Morning all,

Hey this is turning into a gold mine of information thanks guys.
In recognition of contributions:-

Have a read of:-

Crowie’s links on West Systems.

LBD’s advice on how you may want to identify his balls for later and fetal positons that can be adopted under the table.

Anthm27’s update on the world meat supply and how the heifer held out on us, BTW ishe can now no longer be called a heifer …just a bit of side triva along with my many items of usless information, do not remember what they are now called typical!

But its good to hear Mum and bub are doing fine!
For those who want to see it happen,.... believe it or not there is a clip on the internet to educate yourselves on
If you thought giving birth to a child was amazing just watch what happens with a Cow!
and yet another link for Wests (getting back on track)

Potzys invaluable hands on advice regarding experiences he has had.

StefanGs life experiences with products and the practicalities of covering the entire slab with epoxy

From all this I will heed all the advice.

by,
5. sanding the second side and determining which looks the nicest then deciding which way will be up,
6. pass on the the objects de art and look closer at attractive fillers,
7. and add the butterflies where needed.

Once that is completed I will then consider the finishing process, the reason I haven’t committed here just yet is because I am sill checking out suitable legs
Thanks all.

Llife would be pretty straight without a bunch of great Lumberjocks !! Thats an Aussie joke BTW!

-- Regards Rob

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anthm27

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#9 posted 11-07-2019 01:23 AM

Rob a mate of mine in Japan did his kitchen bench in this Glaze Coat product,
I,ve seen the finished product and there is some drip marks, but overall a very good finish,
There is some valuable comments on the forum from others.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/305338

-- To be a true artist one must stick to their own thought process

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anthm27

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#10 posted 11-07-2019 01:28 AM

Hay , I just found this

https://www.epoxysupplies.com.au/RiverTables

None of it cheap, as we knew

-- To be a true artist one must stick to their own thought process

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LittleBlackDuck

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#11 posted 11-07-2019 06:15 AM


.... I am sill checking out suitable legs
- robscastle


Hay , I just found this
.....
None of it cheap, as we knew
- anthm27

These aren’t cheap either,

but why continue the search?

One good thing about being a duck… you can see what’s under (the water)...

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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robscastle

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#12 posted 11-07-2019 09:32 AM

Oh your are a cheeky boy!, I need to have some serviceable and solid legs that are not encumbered with ongoing high maintenance issues

-- Regards Rob

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robscastle

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#13 posted 11-07-2019 09:36 AM

Your on the right track though, I was thinking something like this,

I am told it comes with a wine bottle holder too!!

-- Regards Rob

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mikeacg

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#14 posted 11-07-2019 12:08 PM

Put your pants back on Ducky and pay attention!
Rob – will that wine bottle holder work for cigars as well?

-- Mike, A Yooper with a drawl, http://www.artcentergraphics.com

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LittleBlackDuck

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#15 posted 11-07-2019 02:13 PM



... Your on the right track though, I was thinking something like this…
- robscastle

At least with the opaque slab top (unless you replace ALL the cellulose with clear epoxy), it’ll be like some woolen clothes for winter.


Put your pants back on Ducky and pay attention!
- mikeacg

Bite your tongue ’acg... ducks don’t wear pants and we belong to the scouting brotherhood… be prepared!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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