First impressions

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Review by Nate L. posted 07-05-2014 04:55 AM 8930 views 1 time favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I just picked the drill press up from Lowes today. They honored a 25% Harbor Freight coupon which brought the price down to about $260 out the door. My daughter and I got it set up in about 30 minutes and so far am very impressed. I haven’t measured the runout yet. I do wish that they would make it easier to tilt the table. This is not an issue with this drill press specifically, it was the same on the bench top Ryobi that I just sold. I will update this review as I get more time with it.

Here is a link to the runout. I have very little experience with a dial gauge, so I hope it is being done correctly. =) The only issue that I have had with the drill press so far is the enclosure for the pulleys was vibrating against the motor or vise versa. I had to bend it up slightly and it is all good now. I will try to get some more pictures in the next few days.

-- Nate, Fredericksburg, VA,

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#1 posted 07-05-2014 09:40 AM

Im very interested in your findings on the run out and chuck quality. Ive stopped and looked at this at lowes many times, but have yet to pull the trigger. I’ll use you as my guinnea pig if you dont mind! By the way, that was an excellennt idea using the 25% harbor frieght coupon. I hadnt considered trying that before

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#2 posted 07-05-2014 01:13 PM

Looks like a great drill press, but if you have more time, maybe you can
make some more pictures.
I can’t wait for your review.

-- Greetings from the Netherlands.

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#3 posted 07-05-2014 08:02 PM

Check the runout.

Here’s mine:

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#4 posted 07-07-2014 12:25 AM

Does anyone have any feedback on the runout results?

-- Nate, Fredericksburg, VA,

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#5 posted 07-07-2014 02:27 PM

Does anyone have any feedback on the runout results?
- Nates02gt

Short answer: Seems okay.

Long answer:

For this class of drill press, I’d say about +/- 5 thou or thereabouts is probably an acceptable number to shoot for. As far as yours goes, but it seems acceptable (I saw values of 0 and 1/128) but I think you need to change a few things about how you’re measuring the runout to get a better idea.

First, you need to change the display on your indicator; the fractional measurement isn’t very useful in this scenario. I don’t know what the smallest fractional graduation on that unit is, but say it’s 1/128. That means the actual value is anywhere between 1/256 and 3/256; or about between 3 and 12 thou, which is a VERY big range for what you’re trying to measure. Fractional measurements are great if you’re trying to measure the depth of a dado, but you really need to be measuring with decimals here.

Secondly, there’s two types of runout – axial and radial. Axial runout deals with the positional tolerance relative to the true center of rotation. For axial runout, the values will be the same at any point along the axis. Radial runout is the angular tolerance relative to the true zero degree axis. Radial runout will vary along the position of the axis. Because of this, you’re better off getting a measurement around the tip of a standard drill bit. Obviously you can’t measure that using a regular drill bit due to the flutes, however a punch transfer tool / center punch works well for that. If you don’t have one (I’ve got an entire set of them to help with pen disassembly) you could also sub in a forstener bit and measure the runout on the shaft, near the head of the bit.

Barring any additional information though, let’s assume you’re tolerance is actually 0 – 1/128” (meaning +/- 1/256) and there’s negligible radial runout. Essentially that means that any hole you drill is going to be up to 1/128” oversized (it may be tighter too, some of the runout may manifest itself in positional error intead), so instead of drilling a 3/8” hole (48/128), it’s closer to 49/128.

I have the same drill press and I’ve measured my runout to be +/- 0.003, or about 0.001 tighter than what we’re assuming with yours. Certainly good enough all around (especially for woodworking, IMO). To provide a point of reference, for most civilian and military aircraft being produced today, there’s a tolerance in hole diameter of about +/- 3 thou. Truthfully, that’s a pretty darn sloppy hole when it comes to metalworking standards, but if 777’s and F22’s aren’t falling out of the sky due to discrepant holes, your furniture surely won’t fall apart either.

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#6 posted 07-08-2014 01:43 PM

I have the same drill press and I am very happy with it. I put a larger table with fence, stops, and clamps on it performs extremely well. For the price and quality it is exactly what I want. I also give it a 5 star.

-- Doug, Reed City, Michigan

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#7 posted 07-08-2014 03:09 PM

gtbuzz: Thanks for the tips. I shot another video of the runout and will get it uploaded tonight hopefully. As you will see in the video, the runout maxed out at 0.005 but would drop down to 0.003 if I removed my hand from the chuck.

-- Nate, Fredericksburg, VA,

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#8 posted 09-06-2014 02:55 AM

I just pick mine on Thursday thanks to you guys.
I’m very happy so far.
What table system have you guys been happy with so far?
I think I would most likely make my own, I was wondering how you fit it to the PC drill press?

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#9 posted 09-09-2014 10:54 PM

After looking at the Skil one at Lowes I asked an employee to show me a real deal – he pointed me to your Porter Cable. It looks stout and if they take the HF coupon I will probably get one too.

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#10 posted 11-29-2014 01:05 AM

I bought my PCB660DP this morning at Lowes, and they took a HF coupon for 20% that I printed off a coupon website. I had to talk to a manager, the floor staff could not accept the coupon. I was very polite and simply stated that I knew of several folks that had used a coupon from HF the last one being on 7/4/14 and it was for 25% off. The manager looked up “what they had in it” looked at me as said yes they would accept the coupon.

Question regarding the installation of the chuck and spindle arbor. The instructions say to be sure the arbor is engaged and locked. I can se the auger through the slots in the spindle. I’m guessing that means it is engaged. How do I know it is locked?

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#11 posted 01-04-2015 02:34 AM

I have been teetering on pulling the trigger on this DP. I think if i can get them to take the HF coupon it will close the deal. I will give it a shot tomorrow. Thanks for the review.

-- Mickey Winder Ga

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#12 posted 01-18-2015 04:05 PM

I have the same exact Rill press and haven’t used it a lot but I am very happy with it with one problem. The bits seem to wobble just a little bit (NO PUN INTENDED) NOW this could be because the bit is bend a lttiel but how can I text it to make sure it is spinning true

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#13 posted 01-19-2016 09:55 PM

Just got the same drill press and for the money it’s a great deal. Also wanted to throw out that I just got a Harbor Freight coupon for 20% off and without any fuss Lowes took it. Thank you all for the advice!

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#14 posted 09-12-2017 06:17 PM

Have you check it for run-out???? MY is so bad one really does not know where the drill bit is going to end up? AND its so bad if I drum sand with it one side of the sanding drum never touches the piece

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#15 posted 09-13-2017 12:16 AM

Try popping the arbor out and turn it 180 degrees. Also. Take the 2 screws out of the switch and run an 8-32 brass screw in the bottom screw hole and back it up with an it. It’ll take the slack out the quill. Just put the switch back together with the top screw.

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