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GETTING CARRIED AWAY,THE COVER STORY

by a1Jim
posted 09-01-2017 10:55 PM


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489tad

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#1 posted 09-01-2017 11:12 PM

I think it’s a great idea.

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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poospleasures

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#2 posted 09-01-2017 11:20 PM

Great idea. I do not have your problem at this time but who knows when I might have to stay out of the shop for an extended time. I will sure recommend this to some friends. Thanks

-- I,ve had amnesia for as long as I can remember. Vernon

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Firewood

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#3 posted 09-01-2017 11:31 PM

Jim, that looks like a great idea. When not in use, just stick them to the wall on a piece of scrap sheet metal.

-- Mike - Waukesha, WI

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#4 posted 09-01-2017 11:32 PM

That’s some good thinking Jim!

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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#5 posted 09-01-2017 11:44 PM

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#6 posted 09-02-2017 12:11 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj2vp-jB23w may help for visual understanding. I see benefits, of protecting the iron surfaces from top damage- glue, paint and drinks, which is very helpful. From your post and the video; I did not get a definitive answer – How or does the magnetic cover prevent rust?
Ps I don’t think your crazy but very well tempered.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#7 posted 09-02-2017 12:24 AM

I live in high humidity (south Louisiana) and wonder if the cover would actually trap the dampness and not allow drying? Or would it prevent it from even forming on the cast iron surfaces?

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#8 posted 09-02-2017 12:24 AM

Desert
Thanks for the video.
I’m not sure that it will prevent rust for everyone depending on where they live, but it stands to reason that if an area of metal is not exposed to moist air that it has to offer some protection more than being fully exposed, besides the moisture I like the other benefits you and the video mentioned.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#9 posted 09-02-2017 12:39 AM

Looks like I didn’t have as big of savings as I thought I found this web site that does make magnetic covers for other tools without cutting up a table saw cover. They cost roughly $20-$22 each but making your own is still less I covered 5 machines for $60.
BTW
They do claim protection against rust.

http://www.toolclad.com/jointer-cover

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#10 posted 09-02-2017 12:43 AM

Jim, looks pretty good. And a great financial solution. For me I really have to check as there are cold and hot spots that cause precipitation. I also have cats and cat pee will eat everything! Happy Holiday! I’m working tomorrow.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#11 posted 09-02-2017 01:21 AM

Makes sense to me. cut off the oxygen and stop the oxidation, thanks Jim.

-- Soli Deo gloria!

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#12 posted 09-02-2017 02:27 AM

I find that the best way to protect metal surface or ways of a machine is putting wood over them. I do that on my mill table and get no rust at all!

Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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Boxguy

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#13 posted 09-02-2017 06:09 AM

Jim, I like the idea if you are mothballing your shop for some period, but it might make your tools even more of a gathering place for stuff. I think I’ll stick to a quick sanding of any rust spots with a random orbital sander and a little Johnson’s Paste Wax and a cloth. Of course the best cure is to keep using stuff.

-- Big Al in IN

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Fred Hargis

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#14 posted 09-02-2017 11:30 AM

Good thinking. I’ll have to look into getting some. One thing (I think) makes these more useful is that you can roll them up (?) when not in use making storage a little easier. But they don’t magnetize the cast iron any, do they?

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#15 posted 09-02-2017 11:39 AM

Good thread and found the material on eBay.

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a1Jim

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#16 posted 09-02-2017 01:16 PM

Here’s the one I got off of ebay it turned out to be $70 for 18ft if you buy some make sure it’s 30 Mil. I’ve read reveiws where people who bought thinner material would tear it just unrolling it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-x18-Feet-ROLL-30-Mil-Blank-Magnetic-Sign-Sheet-CARS-OK-FREE-SHIPPING/162618389275?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#17 posted 09-02-2017 01:48 PM

Right now I use Johnson’s wax
which works so good I never tried T-9
but your system works if you don’t get tired of moving them all the time
also for my old tools don’t really matter :<))
BUT THANKS :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN :<))

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#18 posted 09-02-2017 01:56 PM

I think once I’m back in the shop on a regular basis most of the covers won’t be on. I’ve used wax for years also but I still had surface rust when my tools had minimal use.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#19 posted 09-02-2017 06:02 PM

It will be interesting to see how it works long term. Last spring I cleaned my table saw then applied a coat of poly, holding up well so far and looks like the day I applied it.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#20 posted 09-03-2017 12:24 AM

When my shop was in my basement in northern Illinois I had no rust issues as a dehumidifier ran 24/7 with a drain directly to the sump pump. That part of Illinois has really bad summer humidity as it sits in the path of the moisture that comes north from the Gulf up the Mississippi, causes very changeable weather, tornadoes, and provides “weather you can wear”.

Now I live in what is called “desert climate”, a high of 110° today, San Jose California, and I have more issues with rust with my shop now being in the garage. I have to wax my cast iron tables and older unplated clamps nearly every other month.

I have considered the magnetic covers but wonder if they would work and where to put them when you use the tool.

-- "It's fine in practise but it will never work in theory"

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John_

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#21 posted 09-03-2017 07:38 AM

I have the same table saw cover. Works great and I am very pleased with the purchase

Actually, I was a little surprised how ‘strong’ the magnetic force is. When putting it on, if you don’t line it up from the start, you are not going to be able to just slide it over into position

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#22 posted 09-03-2017 03:50 PM

John the “Tool Clad” cover was about an 1” short in depth on my SawStop ICS top, but other wise works well.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#23 posted 09-05-2017 03:24 AM

What is your shop rate? I’m willing to bet that the time you saved not cleaning machine tables more than paid for that covering in far less than the four month cleaning interval. If you have time where you aren’t making any money, you can spend it on tool cleaning. But is that really how you would want to spend your time?

-- Steven.......Random Orbital Nailer

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#24 posted 09-05-2017 03:30 AM

You’ve got that right Dark :) Not my favourite activity in the shop.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#25 posted 09-07-2017 01:09 PM

Sounds like this could be a good idea to use over an assembly table. Sounds like it would make glue clean up a snap.

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#26 posted 09-11-2017 11:15 AM

Jim, I got my roll and am starting to cover my tools. How did you cut yours? I’ve used a pair of metal snips to cut a piece for my table saw, but wasn’t happy with the raggy cut. Can I use a utility knife and straightedge?

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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a1Jim

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#27 posted 09-11-2017 01:51 PM

Hi Fred I just used scissors they worked fine

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#28 posted 09-11-2017 03:02 PM

Sometimes the obvious escapes me…thanks!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#29 posted 09-11-2017 04:19 PM

a1Jim, Thanks for the tip. I get rust issues every winter here in the Northeast. I heat my shop (part of my garage) when I’m in it working but otherwise it’s not heated. I can almost watch the condensation forming. I just placed the order on Ebay from the link you supplied. it’s now $69 with free shipping but still worth it in my mind. I looked at the Toolclad covers but they didn’t have anything for my planer or my lathe (50” bed) and my 17” Band Saw has a table that’s bigger than their offering so I would have had to buy extra covers and cut them anyway. The 18ft. roll will be just enough to get everything covered.

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#30 posted 09-11-2017 04:26 PM

Hi Rob
I hope it does the job for you.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#31 posted 09-12-2017 03:26 PM

EDIT: Never mind the question below. I searched on ‘Magnetic Sign Material” on amazon and found loads of hits.
Thanks – this is a great idea.

What did you search for on ebay that lead you to this? What was the actual terms you used to search on?

-- Doug - St Paul, MN

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#32 posted 09-12-2017 03:38 PM

That’s how I found it Doug.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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