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More fun and wood identification

by Chris Cook
posted 08-27-2017 03:56 PM


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#1 posted 08-27-2017 05:13 PM

Second is bubinga maybe.

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#2 posted 08-27-2017 05:16 PM

Alder of course for both.

Does #1 smell sweet when you cut it? 2?

Probably an alder sub species.

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#3 posted 08-27-2017 06:25 PM

#1 resembles wenge.

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#4 posted 08-27-2017 06:41 PM

I can see wenge, I have some other that is wenge, but not so much yellowish grain. When I look it up though, it does match up with Wenge. Thank you.

As for #2, I am fairly certain it is not bubinga. I have a lot of bubinga and none of it is as heavy or dark as this is.

Don’t think it is a rare subspecies of alder either :(

-- Chris, "all we are is sawdust in the dust collector""

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#5 posted 08-27-2017 06:53 PM

Alder but maybe your samples were cross bred Alder with Wenge and Alder with Purple Heart

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#6 posted 08-27-2017 07:03 PM

1. Bocote. (guess…haven’t had any in my hands for many years.)
2. Purple Heart. (can’t think of another one that’s consistently purple through out.)

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#7 posted 08-27-2017 07:06 PM

The first could be wenge but I have some in my stash somewhere that is chechen and it looks just like that piece as well.

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#8 posted 08-27-2017 07:18 PM

Okay, I am quite sure #1 is Bocote! Thank you!!

as for #2, I do not think it’s purple heart. It is almost blue, it’s so dark.


1. Bocote. (guess…haven t had any in my hands for many years.)
2. Purple Heart. (can t think of another one that s consistently purple through out.)

- Tony_S


-- Chris, "all we are is sawdust in the dust collector""

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#9 posted 08-28-2017 06:36 AM

Beyond my experience. Where did you get it?

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#10 posted 08-28-2017 12:49 PM

#1 = Bocote #2 = Purpleheart

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#11 posted 08-28-2017 01:00 PM

Could it be south american rosewood?

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#12 posted 08-28-2017 04:55 PM



Okay, I am quite sure #1 is Bocote! Thank you!!

as for #2, I do not think it s purple heart. It is almost blue, it s so dark.

- Chris Cook

purpleheart isnt always purple. the color/shade can vary from tree to tree and also with exposure to uv rays.i have some thats now brown.

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#13 posted 08-28-2017 06:17 PM

I’d guess #1 Wenge, the grain color stippling can vary significantly from board to board. #2 is purple heart

Of course I could be completely off 8^)

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#14 posted 08-28-2017 07:06 PM

#2 could be granadillo grenadilla one of those platymiscum spp species or something like that. I have some that is a dark purple when cut and smells similar to rosewood. If it’s not that it’s dark alder.

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#15 posted 09-06-2017 11:49 PM

Okay, I won’t let this die. #1 is definitely Bocote. I have researched that well.

#2 is still out. I am sure it is NOT purpleheart. Just doesn’t match anything else called purpleheart.

again, it is VERY dense.
Very dark

Here are two more shots:

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#16 posted 09-07-2017 03:32 PM

#1 is almost assuredly wenge. Sometimes a fresh cut will have a very light portion to the grain. It will darken over time. If you go to my projects you’ll see a aspen and wenge jewelrybox. The piece of wenge I worked with had exactly the same color and now it is very dark.

#2 is probably purpleheart. you’d know if you sanded or cut it and the inner wood was much more purple. It darkens over time to a brownish purple consistent with what you are showing.

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#17 posted 09-07-2017 10:37 PM


#1 is almost assuredly wenge. Sometimes a fresh cut will have a very light portion to the grain. It will darken over time. If you go to my projects you ll see a aspen and wenge jewelrybox. The piece of wenge I worked with had exactly the same color and now it is very dark.

#2 is probably purpleheart. you d know if you sanded or cut it and the inner wood was much more purple. It darkens over time to a brownish purple consistent with what you are showing.

- LiveEdge

Thanks for your help. You are looking at a fresh cut in my last photo. It is never less dark that you see in my photos. I have worked with purpleheart and I see no similarity to this as it’s grain is even different.

-- Chris, "all we are is sawdust in the dust collector""

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#18 posted 09-07-2017 10:43 PM

That would rule Purple Heart out. If you want to mail me a very thin section, I’d be happy to do some proper endgrain pictures then let Tony loose on it..

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#19 posted 09-07-2017 10:44 PM

Is it sink in water dense? That could help. I don’t know of ipe or cumaru looking purple, but the endgrain is consistent (as far as I can see).

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#20 posted 09-08-2017 07:21 PM

So I was going to be near my lumber house today so I took in samples of this wood.

1) Bocote (@Tony_S, I never should have doubted you)
2) Brazilian Rosewood (@mahdee, you nailed it)

Also, for @TheFridge, I found a special section for you:

-- Chris, "all we are is sawdust in the dust collector""

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#21 posted 09-08-2017 07:30 PM

I like getting answers to these puzzles. It lets us learn.

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#22 posted 09-08-2017 10:56 PM

Glad you solved it. Had a couple of guesses at #2, but I couldn’t get the end grain to match anything.
Strange thing though, the end grain of your samples looks like a dead ringer for the Brazilian Rosewood pics I was just looking at, but the face and edge grain, not so much.
But…I’ve only worked with true Rosewoods twice in the past. The first I don’t even recall what type(was just a young punk then), the second was Madagascar Rosewood. Both had quite different face grain from one board to the next.
Maybe a Dalbergia trait?

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#23 posted 09-09-2017 01:17 AM



Glad you solved it. Had a couple of guesses at #2, but I couldn t get the end grain to match anything.
Strange thing though, the end grain of your samples looks like a dead ringer for the Brazilian Rosewood pics I was just looking at, but the face and edge grain, not so much.
But…I ve only worked with true Rosewoods twice in the past. The first I don t even recall what type(was just a young punk then), the second was Madagascar Rosewood. Both had quite different face grain from one board to the next.
Maybe a Dalbergia trait?

- Tony_S

Both of these woods are great to work with! They machine well and sand nice and clean. The biggest pieces I could get, so far, are large turning blanks (~2×2x24) so I have been using them for accent pieces.

When I was there today, they had some 2-quarter figured maple at 12’ x 1’ boards for $3.50/bf. I think that’s going to be a big part of future projects.

-- Chris, "all we are is sawdust in the dust collector""

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