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Stanley Bailey No4 Type 19 (I think) Questions

by fivecodys
posted 07-31-2017 08:33 PM


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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#1 posted 07-31-2017 08:41 PM

If that bolt is holding the chipbreaker tight to the iron AND is low-profile enough to allow the cutter full contact to the frog, there’s no need to replace it from a user perspective. That said, unless the chipbreaker has been rethreaded to accept that bolt, someday you’ll likely come across a donor plane and swap out the bolt for a knurled screw ‘just because.’ And welcome to the dark side of hand planes!

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Loren

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#2 posted 07-31-2017 08:45 PM

You’ll have to examine the frog to determine
if it has enough clearance for that bolt head.
Standard chipbreaker screw heads are only
about .10” thick.

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fivecodys

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#3 posted 07-31-2017 08:55 PM



You ll have to examine the frog to determine
if it has enough clearance for that bolt head.
Standard chipbreaker screw heads are only
about .10” thick.

- Loren

It looks like it’s laying nice and flat against the frog. I will examine it better when I get it home and can take it apart.

-- When you leave your shop for the night, make sure you can always count to 10.

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fivecodys

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#4 posted 08-01-2017 11:14 PM

Well, it looks like it’s sitting very snugly against the frog. I tried the chip breaker screw from my No 5 I’m restoring and it fits the threads fine. Maybe I’ll look around for a replacement. It’s just a little to funky the way it is. :)

Thanks guys!

-- When you leave your shop for the night, make sure you can always count to 10.

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gargey

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#5 posted 08-01-2017 11:25 PM

Old Stanley planes do not work well. Lie Nielsen or Veritas are required to get decent results.

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jonah

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#6 posted 08-01-2017 11:37 PM



Old Stanley planes do not work well. Lie Nielsen or Veritas are required to get decent results.

- gargey


Anyone who says something as ignorant as this clearly has no idea how to properly set up and use a hand plane.

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hhhopks

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#7 posted 08-02-2017 12:57 AM

Most planes requires some kind of tuning/setup.
Once done they all work. Right? Well, some are easier than others.
I guess expensive ones are much easier and you may never get cheap ones to setup right.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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Andre

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#8 posted 08-02-2017 12:59 AM


Old Stanley planes do not work well. Lie Nielsen or Veritas are required to get decent results.

- gargey

Anyone who says something as ignorant as this clearly has no idea how to properly set up and use a hand plane.

- jonah

LOL! You always judge the comment by the Buddies he keeps and the projects posted!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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gargey

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#9 posted 08-02-2017 01:12 AM


Anyone who says something as ignorant as this clearly has no idea how to properly set up and use a hand plane.
- jonah

Ha. I’m going to try another one:

Saws from the late 1800’s are low-tech and don’t cut well. Husky saws with new technology cut much faster.

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donald_wa

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#10 posted 08-02-2017 02:17 AM

Gargey, you are half right. The old saws are low tech and that’s why we love’m.

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jonah

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#11 posted 08-02-2017 11:37 AM

Maybe nobody has ever told you, but it’s virtually impossible to get sarcasm on an internet forum.

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 08-02-2017 12:15 PM



Maybe nobody has ever told you, but it s virtually impossible to get sarcasm on an internet forum.
- jonah

NOT without inserting {sarcasm} or something similar.

Until then IMO, go with Sargent handplanes… ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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bandit571

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#13 posted 08-02-2017 01:30 PM

Meh…

Made in England, #4c Stanley T-20? Shavings are from Curly Maple

Was using it to raise a few panels.
.
So far, so good..

Curly Maple….

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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fivecodys

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#14 posted 08-02-2017 04:17 PM


Old Stanley planes do not work well. Lie Nielsen or Veritas are required to get decent results.

- gargey

I can’t find any rusty & crusty Lie Nielson or Veritas planes on e-bay! :)

-- When you leave your shop for the night, make sure you can always count to 10.

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Andre

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#15 posted 08-05-2017 12:05 AM


Old Stanley planes do not work well. Lie Nielsen or Veritas are required to get decent results.

- gargey

Anyone who says something as ignorant as this clearly has no idea how to properly set up and use a hand plane.

- jonah

Kind of funny after some tuning and PMV-11 blades my old Stanley’s seem to work fine? {sarcasm}

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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