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Need help pulling the trigger! $5k for Bandsaw, Drum Sander, and Dust Collection

by Slyced
posted 07-30-2017 04:17 AM


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splintergroup

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#1 posted 07-30-2017 01:32 PM

It sounds like you have already done more research than many people ever do 8^)

Best overall advice I can think of is search for used, it can effectively double your tool budgets buying power.

It’s rare to find anyone who has experience with similar tools over a variety of manufactures. Typically a person is familiar with the brand/tool they bought years ago and can tell you the good/bad for that item. Of course that item is usually no longer made…

As to a BS, reliability (IMO) comes down to the guide system. The saw itself usually can be dialed in and there it will stay until something wears out. Guides are where your accuracy and quality of cut are set, and of course you will be changing these settings a lot as you switch between resaw and standard blades and adjust for height.

A drum sander is one of my most used tools, but it is quite “specialized” (and expensive). Dust collection is mandatory.

I have the same Jet jointer. Works great for when I need it, but I wish I had gone bigger. It doesn’t get much use otherwise.

I have a Delta “lunchbox” planer that gets used on occasion, but my go-to route is usually resawing to thickness on the BS (Minimax 16”) and final dimensioning on a Performax 16/32 DS (with 2hp cyclone).

Note that this is all for dimensionally “small” projects (boxes, small tables, etc.) Your house work sounds like you need good portable tools, of which a table saw would be the most valuable.

With no experience on the actual tool, the Laguna BS seems well equipped. Beyond that, the $1k to $2k price point has a huge variety to choose from.

Sorry I can’t help more, tool luck on your quest!

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#2 posted 07-30-2017 02:43 PM

Slyced,

Bandsaw.
I purchased the Grizzly 0636X 17” bandsaw a few years ago. I have had no issues with the Grizzly bandsaw. I have a Laguna shaper and conclude it is a fine tool. Based on my experience either manufacturer would ship a bandsaw that will perform well. However, from what I read, if a problem should arise with the purchase, Grizzly customer service may be easier to deal with than Laguna.

Drum Sander. Of the two drum sanders you list, I would be inclined to the closed end SuperMax. My concern with the open ended drum sander is whether any flex in the overhead arm might spoil the sanding operation. On the other hand, I suspect Powermatic as engineered as much flex out of the machine as possible and with the extremely shallow passes typical when using drum sanders, it may not be an issue.

I have a Woodmaster 38” drum sander, but Woodmaster also offers a 26” drum sander for about $3000. I mention Woodmaster even though evidently beyond your budget because they offer two optional items of equipment that make using the drum sander much easier. The first is extension rollers that support longer workpieces. These extension rollers come in handy when using the reversing switch, the second option. The reversing switch allows the operator to stand on the infeed side of the sander. The workpiece is fed into the machine. Once the surface has completely passed under the sanding drum, the conveyor belt direction is reversed by flipping the reversing switch and the workpiece comes back through the sander to the operator.

Perhaps either or both drum sanders on your list offer these options. If they do, these options are, in my experience, very nice upgrades and well worth the additional money. If not, looking into the Woodmaster USA made machine may be worthwhile.

The tone of your post suggests that you view a dust collector perhaps as more of a convenience tool (to keep the shop cleaner) than an essential tool. If so and you plan to go forward with the purchase of a drum sander, I suspect you will quickly conclude that a dust collector is an essential tool. The drum sander will generate a lot of dust that, without a dust collector, will lay on the workpiece. This dust will have to be wiped or vacuumed away before the workpiece can be sent through the drum sander again. If not wiped away, the dust on the workpiece can adversely affect the sanding job on the workpiece and quickly clog the sanding paper. If the dust is wiped off the workpiece, a lot of air-born dust will result so a dust mask would have to be worn, which could be intolerable in East Texas. If vacuumed, the shop vac would have to be emptied frequently.

Other Tools. Since there are several other tools you would like to purchase, it may be worth your while to drive up to Springfield, MO, and look around the Grizzly showroom. It could be an informative trip, and even if you walk away deciding to buy no Grizzly tool, I would think the trip would be enjoyable. On the other hand you may be able to buy every tool on your list and stay close to your budget.

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#3 posted 07-30-2017 03:31 PM

Thank you both a ton! Lots and lots of great information in both posts. :)

I am definitely going to add dust collection as a priority. If anyone has an “affordable” unit they highly recommend that can handle a larger drum sander, please include it.

The same goes for anyone who has had success with a DIY cyclonic system that is cheaper and outperforms a big box unit… I would definitely be interested in that. I have researched them in the past an endorsement by anyone with experience would be awesome.

I have attempted to find some good, used items off and on for the past few weeks with literally zero leads… but I will continue until I have made a decision.

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#4 posted 07-30-2017 03:32 PM

Splinter – how do you feel about your Performax (now Jet)? Any issues with flexing/divots on pieces larger than 16? Any con’s that just really bother you?

Also – with a planer and drum sander, what jobs make you wish you had gone with a wider jointer? I wanna make sure it is relevant to me because I doubt I will be using it for pieces wider than 4 inches.

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#5 posted 07-30-2017 03:45 PM

JBrow – Oh my how I wish I could afford the Grizzly 0636X… that and the Laguna HD (Italian Model) are at the top of my list but I really can’t justify the additional cost unless it is a machine that is going to last me a lifetime… which it may very well be. (I am 40)

Excellent info on the sander – looking more into the Woodmaster now.

I totally understand your explanation on dust collection… any suggestions?

Thanks again you guys!!

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#6 posted 07-30-2017 05:33 PM

The dust collector is a must, especially for things like the planer and jointer, and just, generally, spoiling yourself.

I use my collectors, exclusively, to clean the floors of things not caught by the collector. A sewer tube made a good extension.

I have four collectors:

- Two are four bag, 3hp Jets. One has a cartridge filter and is behind a Oneida Super Dust Deputy. The other will be getting a SDD XL soon.

Both 3 hp units are older ones. I paid $250 for the first and swapped the bottom bags to big box store clear lawn bags. I also swapped the stock bags for 1 micron upper bags for $100.00. The second, I paid $425.00 for and it came with canister filters. The difference in draw, between the two, is notable.

- One is a 1-1/2 hp Jet with a canister filter. It does a good job, but it got upgraded to the 3hp with two canisters.

- The one that gets drug out to vacuum pine cones and leaves is a Harbor Freight 2hp. It babysits the miter, when not on yard duty. I changed to a finer filter on it too. I’d say, for a couple hundred bucks, it would be a damn good investment. My bet is, it would handle your drum sander.

I’ve seen some Grizzly 3 hp units on the local craigslist too. They look like knock offs of the Jet and might be well worth considering too.

If you can handle 240 and 15amps run current, the Jets are worth the jump. Otherwise, anything 1-1/2hp and up is going to be night and day over nothing.

I never knew what I was missing, until I had one. Now, having at least one dust collector is as important as any other piece of equipment.

I built a sanding station with nylon sides, top and back and it makes sanding and carving projects that fit in it a pleasure. In fact, the seemingly small amount of air pulled in makes that a comfortable place to sit, after the rest of the shop gets too hot for comfort (84 and up).

As to cyclonic units that outperform big box ones, I’d be hard pressed to believe any of the DIY have any significant performance improvements over a plastic Super Dust Deputy at $200.00. Too, what would it cost to fabricate a SDD equivalent?

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#7 posted 07-30-2017 05:44 PM

On jointers, I had a 4” nearly fifty years ago. I outgrew it in a week, so made the “jump” to a Craftsman 6”. I out grew spending all my time trying to align it and keep it aligned. I went to a PM 6” and it was an honest jump, but I still longed for a long bed.

A few years ago, I bought a 8” Grizzly with a long bed, a spiral head and a mobile base (490X), It’s gold. The spiral tackles figured wood just fine, and runs quieter than my old knife jointers.

I don’t need bigger, or should say I can work around the limitations of an 8”, but I wouldn’t want to go back to a 6”. At least up to a point, bigger is better.

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#8 posted 07-30-2017 05:50 PM

Like already said,,,,,,,,,If you’re going to get a drum sander you have to have a dust collector, not potentially.

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#9 posted 07-30-2017 05:57 PM

As to fence upgrades on bandsaws, I think it’s a personal preference in many cases.

I’m running the cheesy, stock fence of my PM. After looking into fancier fences and getting significant use out of mine, I think it would have been easy to buy the wrong one and joint the other forum topic about wasted money spent.

Having to have a magnetic fence to adjust for drift suggests it’s time to go back to set up school. The blade drifts because it’s set up wrong or the nails took out teeth on one side causing the blade to wander.

Too, I like the idea of the blade being locked at the front and the back when I’m pushing forty or so pounds of wood past the blade.

In the end, my stock fence does fine, it just doesn’t do it as pretty.

As to guides, you can expect a lot of different opinions on whether all bearings or cool blocks are the cat’s meow. What I will say is, for 1/4” and under, go with the Carter Stabilizer. It is the lion’s meow.

Meanwhile, I buy my bearings, ten at a time, for about $6.00 and shipping from bearing suppliers, rather than from the PM manufacturer at about $200.00 for a set.

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#10 posted 07-30-2017 07:25 PM

Thanks Kelly! Awesome info.

So I am now adding a 220 Jet system to the list.

This one looks nice... but is it enough?

Jointer – I think I am going to drop this from the list for now… I have access to one when needed so unless someone drops a link for an exceptional performer below $1k… I am gunna spend it on the other equipment.

BS – This was the main reason for this post… and I am just plain stuck. :( I have watched hours worth of videos and read so many reviews. Both Griz and Laguna have some nightmare reviews but overall both have far more positives… which says a lot.

That said, the Laguna’s 14bx really seems like an awesome machine that wont require and upgrades with the least amount of problems out of the box. One of the nicest things about it is how easily blade changes are and I will likely be making those changes quite frequently.

While Griz may have better customer service and be just as good (if not better) of a machine… I have read more reviews where Laguna users have literally never had to call em while Griz owners seem to almost always have to make a call to customer service right out of the gate for vibrations or other issues.

Basically, that makes these two units a wash and so I end up leaning towards the Laguna simply for the better fence and guide system.

Thanks for the info on the Carter Stabilizers… Seems like a very nice addition to have on hand but not something to really improve the day-to-day use over the standard guide system.

Ugghhh!!! I can see myself tossing a coin tonight after a glass of bourbon. lol

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#11 posted 07-30-2017 09:42 PM

I have the Grizzly G0513×2 band saw. 17”, a size smaller than what you are looking at. I am very happy with it, and the price was right.
when I was looking to buy, I read a lot of negative reviews about Laguna in general. (Customer Service)
I have been looking into a drum sander myself. Had not read a lot of good. seems like they all have issues somewhere, but I have been mainly looking at used, older models.
Just saw the newest Supermax at the AWFS fair last week. I was impressed with them, and was looking at the same machine that you are looking at. The main issue I have always read about with drum sanders is keeping the drum parallel to the bed. Supermax convinced me that this is not an issue with there newer products.
Supermax also had a prototype 16-32 priced at $1199.00 it featured a quick release handle that let you travel the drum without the hand crank. you set it to the starting thickness then hand crank to fine tune as you sand. Very nice. No word as to when it would be available on the larger machines.

Have you considered wood master planer/sanders? http://www.woodmastertools.com/725
I had never looked at these, until earlier this year. A friend has the Woodmaster 725.
Turns out its a planer,drum sander, moulder, gang rip saw. all in one.
We were working with a live edge slab that needed some drum sanding help, and he had offered to let me use it.
It to was very nice. Easy to switch from planer to sander.
I too am still using a 13” lunch box planer, in a home shop that is running out of space. That woodmaster is pricey, and outside of my budget at the moment. But it does so much, very well, in a single tool footprint.
I like the Supermax 19-32, but if I go that way at $1399. and then step up the planer at $2000+, I think the woodmaster becomes more realistic down the road a year or two from now.

Jointers are pretty basic, straight forward machines. I am using a older style ridgid 6” jointer.
8” long bed would be nice, and I am becoming more impressed with Grizzly products.
I have never used a spiral cutter head but I hear they are really nice if you are working with a lot of figured wood.
Anyway, Grizzly basic 6” jointer is around $610, I think I saw 8” starting at $875. Also as simple as jointers are, I would look hard at a used machine. very little to go wrong with one, and easy to fix if it does.

I am using a Harbor Freight DC. It actually works pretty good. got it for $100 off craigslist about 4 years ago when I was just starting out. So I figured if it lasted a year I got my money out of it. Now if, when it dies. I think it may be worth buying another. I am really shocked that it has lasted all this time. It does need to have an upgraded filter bag. Thats its only real weak spot.
Just like the 1st Jet you are looking at. A 30 micron filter bag, really, on a Jet. I bet they come off the same factory line in china.
Cost twice as much for the Jet name. You can have the Harbor Freight for around $200 new, and buy a 1 micron filter bag on amazon for it.

By the way, I like Jet tools. Bought a Jet 16X42 lathe, and had full intention on there 14” band saw. Several Friends bought the Grizzly lathe after I got my jet. That got me looking at Grizzly when I saw how nice there lathes were.
I’m by no means all Grizzly either. For example I hear there Drum Sanders are crap.
Good luck.

-- John

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#12 posted 07-30-2017 09:59 PM

Thanks John!!

That Woodmaster looks amazing! Thank you for including that in your write-up! (Wait… that is one more thing I have to research now… lol) :P

Great info and thank you so much for taking the time to share your experiences! Notes taken. :)

Man, this site is pretty amazing… I’ve never been into forums and I have already posted more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire life on forums. lol So glad I signed up.

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#13 posted 07-30-2017 10:09 PM

Why so much focus on the band saw?

When you say “work”. It sounds more cabinetry than furniture…

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#14 posted 07-30-2017 10:48 PM

Good question Jack… very good question.

Honestly, there is equal importance in the sander but lesser on the jointer and dust collection… mainly because I don’t see nearly the “need” for a jointer as I have been using other good equipment to achieve similar results for most of my life. A bandsaw and drum sander both have things they do exceptionally better than other alternatives.

While I do a great deal of cabinetry, I have had (and have more planned) far more projects over the years where a good bandsaw would have significantly improved both the range of design as well as the efficiency of time and materials.

That said, I also do a lot of custom casing/surrounds like for windows and fireplaces so that Woodmaster sounds like a really good investment… if the reviews show it’s moulding performance is acceptable. Again, a bandsaw greatly increases the range of designs I am able to build in regards to transitions and columns.

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#15 posted 07-30-2017 10:52 PM

As for dust collection… I just don’t mind a litte dust floating around (gunna die from something else first… can dang near guarantee that. lol) However, I was quickly educated that it is a necessity if running a drum sander soooo… I just need one that will do the job.

If that means I need to spend more, I will… reluctantly. lol

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#16 posted 07-30-2017 10:56 PM

I never thought I would, but I use my bandsaw more than just about every other tool I have. And at ~$100 a pop, you can’t beat the bang for the buck.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#17 posted 07-30-2017 11:13 PM



Splinter – how do you feel about your Performax (now Jet)? Any issues with flexing/divots on pieces larger than 16? Any con s that just really bother you?

Also – with a planer and drum sander, what jobs make you wish you had gone with a wider jointer? I wanna make sure it is relevant to me because I doubt I will be using it for pieces wider than 4 inches.

- Slyced

I love it!, No flexing per-se, but I do have a bias for about 0.005” at the outer edge to avoid divots with > 16” panels (actual width is really more like 15”)

I’d go bigger if I had a re-do. More than 3” height would be a bonus as well.

I usually buy rough lumber and with carful planning on the planer, I can even it out. The 6” jointer is really only good for edges. I’d love a 12” to get a flat face for the planer, it would save me maybe 1/4” and some work.

8” would cover about 70% of my facing needs.

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#18 posted 07-30-2017 11:48 PM

Thanks splinter… I need to consider that going forward as now that I am back home in the Piney Woods I have a much greater supply of rough lumber very close-by. Prob gunna push the jointer purchase back until I can go with an 8”.

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#19 posted 07-31-2017 12:54 AM

I had the Grizzly G1066R drum sander. That is one tool I deeply regret selling several years ago. It wasn’t bad to replace the paper on it. The 25 inch capacity was great for cabinet door and even interior and exterior door panels. At the time I got it, I started to go with the Performax open ended sander, a 16/32 if memory serves, but too many people were having issues with them not staying true across the width. I never had any issues with the Grizzly. As previously stated though, dust collection is a must not a luxury with one. For an entry level DC, Harbor Freight is not a bad option, and it can be set up to easily move around the shop to service several machines. If you order your hardwood planed to within 1/16” of the finished size you need, you can use the drum sander to take everything down to final size, in small batches, and if you have the time to put into doing it that way.
On the issue of planers and jointers, the spiral cutterheads are a monumental leap forward over the standard knives. I’ll also agree the 8” Grizzly Jointer is probably one of the best buys available and the cutterhead upgrade is not unreasonable.
I can’t offer any advice on the band saw issue, as I’ve never owned anything bigger than the 14” model. I will say the Carter guides are absolutely the way to go for narrow blades, but I also like the Cool Blocks.

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#20 posted 07-31-2017 01:07 AM

Thank you Rare! Just before reading your post I decided to remove the Performax myself.. not that I am completely closed off to an open-ended unit but atm I need a little more reassurance before spending that much on one.

your +1 for the jointer pretty much locked it in for me and I updated the post to remove it from the equation as it will be next on the list in a few months. :)

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#21 posted 07-31-2017 01:11 AM

To clarify… I removed the $2500 Performax… if I’m spending that much on a drum sander I’m gunna remove divots from the equation all-together. Splinter’s model is now the Jet… which is still on the short-list.

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#22 posted 07-31-2017 01:15 AM

In that same $2500.00 price range, you can move up to the Z series Grizzly 24” drum sander. It adds some bells and whistles over the $1,800.00 model I had.

-- EARTH FIRST! We'll log the other planets later. Trust your neighbors, but brand your calves. Opinion worth price charged.

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#23 posted 07-31-2017 01:28 AM

Slyced,

You asked for a recommendation for a dust collector. I am sure there are others who can recommend affordable units from several manufacturers but probably none would suggest a Woodmaster dust collector. While I am not necessarily recommending the Woodmaster dust collector, given the number of pricey tools you would like to acquire on a limited budget, Woodmaster dust collectors may be worth considering if decide to buy a dust collector.

Woodmaster dust collectors are about as basic as dust collectors come; a dust collection barrel, a filter bag, and an impeller driven by a 230V motor. The dust collection barrel is not included, so another $100 would be required. The advantage of the Woodmaster dust collector is its affordable power; $700 for 3 hp. and $1000 for 5 hp. Either should offer good dust collection for the jointer, planer, and drum sander, whether mounted on a mobile platform using a flex hose or connecting it to a network of piping. Woodmaster likes Leeson motors so I suspect that is the motor that powers their dust collectors. A cyclone could be purchased or a cyclone or Thein baffle could be shop-made and added to protect the impeller from large debris strikes.

By way of experience, I used a Woodmaster ½ hp. dust collector for about 15 year until I upgraded to a different brand. It continued to perform very well (for a ½ hp. unit) and continues in use in my nephew’s shop. I therefore assume that a Woodmaster dust collector would offer years of trouble-free service.

3 hp. unit… https://www.woodmastertools.com/NS/accessdetail.cfm?PID=85

5 hp. unit… https://woodmastertools.com/NS/accessdetail.cfm?PID=88

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#24 posted 07-31-2017 01:52 AM

Back up on the Carter Stabilizer. I, too, had never used one so didn’t know their worth. After having owned one for a few years, I won’t run smaller blades any other way. The single bearing approach gives better ninety degree scroll cuts than I ever got with five bearing up and five down, or cool blocks.

On spiral heads, making a point about figured wood was just to make a point about the toughest wood you could deal with. They handle straight grained wood better too and allow you to just replace the middle row (or left, or right) if you fight with a brad. There is a reason pro’s go with them, as they can afford them.

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#25 posted 07-31-2017 02:01 AM

Doing it all over, if there is sufficient room, I’d go with two HF units, one on each side of the shop, over a single Jet.

Again, a bag upgrade would be critical. Ideally, a swap to canisters, which would add a LOT of area air is drawn through.

If I had to have only one collector, I’d push for a 3hp min.

Bag possibilities:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005VSAP74/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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#26 posted 07-31-2017 02:21 AM

Don’t know much about the grizzly buff the 14 bx we use is an excellent machine so I would assume the 18 bx would be as good or better.
Drum sander, we use the supermax and it does everything we ask of it. Accurate and the lever that raises the bed just a hair to remove sanding marks in the middle of a wide panel is a great feature and it has all metal dust hood. I have not seen the new jet but the previous 16 32, I would not recommend. Head tough to align to the table, plastic dust hood that opened with the slightest pressure. I it looks like the new jet has a fixed head like the supermax so that is a drastic improvement. Still looks like the dust hood is plastic though. You need good dust collection for these tools.
Dust collection, the 1 micron filtration should be mandatory. Specially if the DC is in the same space as your shop tools. The jet is a affordable choice but if you go with this style DC, look into adding a cyclone or thien style separator. Much more efficient than the vortex in separating chips/chunks from the fines and keeps larger pieces or chunks of wood from hitting the impeller. We use a Laguna cflux in our shop. It works great but if there is one drawback, our 1.5 HP model has a smallish bin for the majority of the dust.
How that helps.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, the wall gets in the way AAANNNDDD table saws BITE my fingers!!!.. - Mike -

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#27 posted 08-01-2017 01:34 AM

Thanks Who/Kelly.

I took 24 hours off from thinking about this because I was really starting to get frustrated.

I came back to it just now and after reading Who’s post I have decided to go with the Laguna 18BX and the Supermax… not sure if I just gave up or made peace with it. lol

I like the Woodmaster 5HP for a grand that JBrow posted but I haven’t done enough research on dust collection yet to know what to look for… so kind of going off recommendations alone at this point.

Plan on looking more into them tomorrow afternoon but if anyone still wants to chime in with suggestions, I welcome them! :)

That goes for the Bandsaw/Sander as well… those are my current decisions but if someone shows up with a good reason why I should go Grizzly or Rikon, I want to hear it. :)

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#28 posted 08-01-2017 01:38 AM

I just got an email from Grizzly today. They have some of their band saws and dust collectors marked down until the 12th of August.

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#29 posted 08-03-2017 01:23 PM

I have the Laguna 14” SUV and I’m very happy with it. It has the driftmaster resaw fence and a 3hp motor. Since I’m also own a hardware store I’ve been thinking about upgrading to the Powermatic 18” PM1800. I have the saw listed in the New York Craigslist if you want to look at it. You would have to arrange pickup because I’m not willing to ship it. It has a lot of accessories that might make it desirable to you. Good luck

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#30 posted 08-03-2017 03:30 PM

Thanks Nassau,

I’ve already made my purchases. :) I decided to spend a lot more on the dust collection system so… I downsized the Bandsaw.

For anyone who was following, here is what I’m getting:

The 220V (2.5HP) Laguna 14BX with a 3/4” Resaw King blade, 1/4 and 3/8” laguna blades, and mobile base.

Supermax 19-38 with infeed/outfeed tables

Oneida V-3000 Dust collection with wall bracket and remote.

Which put me a fair amount over my budget but I think I will be happy with what I’m getting

Thanks a TON for all of your advice and perspectives!

V/R,

John

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#31 posted 08-03-2017 03:43 PM

Not sure why you are considering Grizzly G0514X2 for bandsaw? I would advice Grizzly G0513X2 (17 inches) to save another $500+, unless you need throat capacity for 19 inches. My rationale is that both saw has resawing capacity of 12 inches.

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#32 posted 08-03-2017 03:47 PM

Slyced, glad I could help, in jealous. Keep us posted on how you like you’re new toys. In especially curious on the onedia.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, the wall gets in the way AAANNNDDD table saws BITE my fingers!!!.. - Mike -

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#34 posted 08-04-2017 01:28 AM

Hey John, I haven’t contributed to this thread previously but I think you made just about the best decision you could have based on your previous comments. I have the Laguna 14/12 and although it is smaller, it does a great job and the fit and finish is excellent. I have the Jet 16/32 open drum sander. I like it a lot but I think the new Supermax 19/38 is better built in addition to being a little larger. Currently, I use a Delta bag style dust collector with an in line Oneida Super Dust Deputy. I absolutely hated dealing with the filter bag and the waste bag. The new dust collector in my under construction shop will definitely be a cyclone style.

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