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ok guys, I may need a little help with work shop

by buckbuster31
posted 07-25-2017 01:48 PM


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#1 posted 07-25-2017 01:59 PM

Nice looking house
I’m not sure where you want to put it in relation to your house but if there’s room I would add it to the right side of your house and copy the gable end on the left of your house, of course, using doors instead of windows. as to size, there are lots of post on that subject on Ljs if you search shop. It has a lot of what you want to make the equipment you want to have and what your budget and space limitations are. Most folks always say bigger is better

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#2 posted 07-25-2017 02:03 PM

If you’ve got the room go as big as you can. I’ve never heard anyone complain that they made their shop to big.

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#3 posted 07-25-2017 02:14 PM

room isn’t the issue, money is!

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#4 posted 07-25-2017 02:16 PM

we have 230 acres here but the mrs. is wanting to stay on a budge. how deep do you think I can go and still be comfortable? im thinking 24 foot deep and 40 wide. then I could do just a single 16 foot door and have 22 ft wide. so essentially I would have a 22X24 shop.

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#5 posted 07-25-2017 02:21 PM

nice house ….I say you have to not just measure the table saw but figure on size being at least 10 foot from blade on both front and back for ply ….also at miter station wall figure 12 foot either side …. hope this Is clear to you ….I ALSO WOULD DO … a right side addition with gables …...GOOD LUCK :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#6 posted 07-25-2017 02:23 PM

I have a 12×24 shop with a 6×9 closet off of that. Im planning to add on with a 24×24 shop. I will turn my old shop into storage/finishing area. I don’t know what kind of room you need for your operation, but dont forget to consider lumber storage. Like Bob said, nobody laments having too large of a shop. If i had been a woodworker when I built my 24×24 garage, I would have built it 24×48.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#7 posted 07-25-2017 02:24 PM

pole building – - I wouldn’t attach to the house for noise and dust. and versatility.

I would do this includes all materials windows and doors I would spend a little extra for spray in insulation and running electrical, and likely end up at 10grand:

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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#8 posted 07-25-2017 02:27 PM

+1 on what DrDirt said.

Having a ww’ing shop attached directly to the house is not the best scenario.

I would do something like what a1Jim said except detached with maybe a screened breezeway between.

You may also want to consider a separate electric svc if this is possible. This way you will have option of central AC one day + plenty of room for circuits.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#9 posted 07-25-2017 02:32 PM

no, it wont be attached to the house. I just want it to match the house. it will be a separate building all together

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#10 posted 07-25-2017 02:35 PM

Definitely go as big as your budget will allow. However, depending on where you live, you may need to keep heating and cooling in mind. It could be a significant portion of your budget if it is important to you. (Some people don’t mind how hot or cold it gets in their shop. Wish I was one of them.)

I have a 3 car garage and have to store 2 cars during the winter. I also have an old Chevy Suburban that is mainly used for hauling stuff. So it can stay outside all year (don’t have to scrape ice off windows every morning).

Keeping to a budget at that time, I didn’t go quite as large as I wanted to. If my garage is completely clean (very rare) I can just barely fit the Suburban in there and close the garage door. With the garage door closed, there is no room to get a floor jack under either the front or back. It truly sucks when you have a leaky hose in January and a foot of snow on the driveway.

Also – and I’ve mentioned this in other threads – I went with 8ft ceilings. Some sheet goods are slightly over 8ft. I REALLY wish I had gone with 10ft ceilings.

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs

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#11 posted 07-25-2017 02:38 PM

I agree with Tony about the measuring things out .I have a table saw close to the front entrance of my shop going across the width of my shop (24”) with a chop saw station on one wall and my jointer on the other across from my cabinet saw It leaves about 30” on both sides of the table saw, adequate to walk but sometimes limiting to move equipment around and larger pieces of furniture I make, if I would have had more room I would have gone 30ft wide. I also have 14’ tall ceilings (for wood storage)but should have gone 16’ where I could have made loft storage.
I did make chases in my concrete floor to run my dust collection, air and electrical for my saw and benches that has worked out very well. If your going to use this building for a garage and shop I would have a divider wall with people door and sperate garage doors for the shop and garage, to keep saw dust off cars bikes etc. and to keep gas fumes out of the woodshop to minimize a fire hazard.

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#12 posted 07-25-2017 02:42 PM

yes, there will definitely be a divider wall.

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#13 posted 07-25-2017 03:16 PM

Mine is 30’ x 40’ with a 10’ ceiling, and still not big enough. Machinery and the space to use it takes up a lot of space.
A divider wall truly hampers our ability to gain the best use of it. Learned the hard way.

-- Still trying to master kindling making

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#14 posted 07-25-2017 03:24 PM

There will always be calls to make it bigger, pretty much no matter what size you propose…...and there’s a reason for that. But back to your initial idea, I think what you want to do is quite workable and should meet all the criteria. The one thing I would do is put it next to the drive (that looks like the left side?) so it has a drive available. Having them in the middle of the yard sucks. I think getting a building to match the existing house should be fairly easy. You did not mention height (that I saw), consider building it with 10’ walls, useful both in the shop section and the garage section.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#15 posted 07-25-2017 03:27 PM

My father in law did what you’re talking about. He built his detached shop to match the house. It has a little dormer on the front that just has a window to the attic. You might be able to add one or two dormers that would help you bring in some natural light.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#16 posted 07-25-2017 03:45 PM



we have 230 acres here but the mrs. is wanting to stay on a budge. how deep do you think I can go and still be comfortable? im thinking 24 foot deep and 40 wide. then I could do just a single 16 foot door and have 22 ft wide. so essentially I would have a 22X24 shop.

- buckbuster31

I use a two car garage that’s roughly 20’ x 20’. It’s a little tight for all my tools so most are on mobile bases that allow me to move them around. Of course, it all depends on what machinery you have, or are planning to add, that should determine how much floor space you’ll require.

The most troubling aspect of my space is the 8’ ceilings. I’d say that whatever you build, make sure you allow for the luxury of extra height. Being able to get stuff like wood stock, hand tools and other items that tend to spend more time in storage than on your bench will go a long way to making you satisfied working in the shop.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#17 posted 07-25-2017 03:51 PM

Lumber can take up a lot of room in the shop and you don’t use it fast enough to make up for the wasted space. If I was in your shoes, I’d consider beefing up the ceiling joists so you can air dry & store lumber in the attic. Put doors on the both gable ends for ventilation and outside access to the attic. The attic will become a solar kiln in the summer.

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#18 posted 07-25-2017 03:55 PM

I like the ideas I am hearing

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#19 posted 07-25-2017 04:10 PM

If your budget allows, I would definitely go at least 30’ wide and as deep as you can afford for the shop, then have a 2 car garage. If you will talk to any realtor, if you ever sell the house, a two car garage is almost always a must have.
For your garage, you need to keep in mind todays bigger vehicles such as full size pickups and vehicles like Expeditions and Suburbans. Our town requires a minimum of 28’ wide (and 28’ deep) double car garages, for just that purpose.
I don’t know what part of the country you are in, but for your shop, you might consider something like a company like Tuff-Shed has to offer. I have one of their buildings and am very happy with it. Well built and much cheaper than conventional construction. Look them up on the web and you can see what I am talking about.
Good luck.

-- Christian, Husband, Grandpa, Salesman, amateur Woodworker.

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#20 posted 07-25-2017 04:18 PM

My shop is 30’ deep and 60’ wide. It would not bother me a bit to have it 40’ deep. For example, walk in the middle man door and you come to the table saw, about 12’ in. With the kick up outfeed, the saw is about 5’. To the wall is about 13’, of course. On that back wall are racks for carving tools, planes or whatnots. Against it are things like the router table, the drum sander, the pin router…..

That leaves about 10’ between the saw and the items on the back wall for assembly. It, certainly, would not hurt my feelings to have another 5’ of assembly area.

My shop looks like a nicer house than our house. I like that, because it seems certain people might be more inclined to assume it’s occupied. The down side is, delivery types want to deliver there, rather than the house, about fifty or so feet away. When they pound on the door, they get no answer, if I’m not their or the big 3hp “vacuum” is running.

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#21 posted 07-25-2017 04:36 PM

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