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Ridgid R4512 cast iron warped

by Rob_s
posted 07-16-2017 01:47 PM


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ArtMann

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#1 posted 07-16-2017 02:16 PM

That has to be the worst table saw top warp I have ever seen. I am usually the guy who says it won’t make any difference but not this time.

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BurlyBob

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#2 posted 07-16-2017 02:23 PM

Yup! That’s totally unacceptable.

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MrRon

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#3 posted 07-16-2017 02:54 PM

Check the top of any replacement before taking it home. Warping may not be limited only to one machine. If any other shows this much warpage, that is a signal to look for a different brand.

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mrg

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#4 posted 07-16-2017 03:40 PM

Take it back.

-- mrg

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Rob_s

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#5 posted 07-16-2017 04:33 PM


Check the top of any replacement before taking it home. Warping may not be limited only to one machine. If any other shows this much warpage, that is a signal to look for a different brand.

- MrRon

I think I’m just going to get my money back. I can’t invest another day in this heat to assembling a new one just to find out it has problems too.

Question is, how much do I have to spend on a table saw to reduce the risk of getting another one like this?

Is an $1100 Jet going to be more likely to be flat?

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crank49

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#6 posted 07-16-2017 05:29 PM

First rule, completely stay away from Rigid. Worst boat anchors to ever be labeled table saws.
The slightly more expensive Delta sold by Lowes is better based on reviews I’ve seen.
The next step up is Grizzly, in my humble opinion. That is what I intend to replace my Craftsman/Rigid TS with. And a good Grizzly can be had for less than a grand.

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Rob_s

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#7 posted 07-16-2017 05:42 PM



First rule, completely stay away from Rigid. Worst boat anchors to ever be labeled table saws.
The slightly more expensive Delta sold by Lowes is better based on reviews I ve seen.
The next step up is Grizzly, in my humble opinion. That is what I intend to replace my Craftsman/Rigid TS with. And a good Grizzly can be had for less than a grand.

- crank49

You’re basing this on internet reviews or your own experience?

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Loren

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#8 posted 07-16-2017 05:47 PM

One factor in machine quality is aging of
“green” cast iron before it is ground flat.
Manufacturers at the lower end are known
to not age the iron very long while some like
Powermatic have a reputation for aging
the iron a long time. The aging reduces
the warping that can happen when iron
is ground too soon after casting.

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TaySC

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#9 posted 07-16-2017 05:49 PM

I’ve got the Ridgid 4513 with the collapsible stand and absolutely love it.

My guess is that you were unfortunate enough to get a lemon, but IMHO this isn’t an adequate representation of Ridgid table saws in general.

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BlasterStumps

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#10 posted 07-16-2017 07:07 PM

I agree TaySC. A QC issue that could happen at most manufacturing. I’ve got a 4512 that has been quite good.

Sorry Rob that you got a warped top on your saw. Hope your next saw is better.
Mike

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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Rob_s

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#11 posted 07-16-2017 07:37 PM

Turns out my neighbor, who has been quite happy with his saw until now, also has a warped top. He hadn’t even checked until I sent him pictures of mine.

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Carloz

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#12 posted 07-16-2017 08:11 PM

Not to defend Ridgid but it looks like someone was very careless with the saw and dropped it once or twice, most probably after it left the factory

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bigJohninvegas

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#13 posted 07-16-2017 08:12 PM

I’ve go the same saw, and my primary issues have been with the fence. That got fixed with a great buy on a biesemeyer fence that I stole off of craigslist. I’ve been over that to many times so I’ll stop there.
If I had to do it over again I would have returned the saw. Avoid the ridgid saws at all cost.
For the money and time I have invested in my R4512, I could have had a nice Grizzly saw. And my issues were fixable, unlike your warped table top.
Run away while you can!

-- John

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dad2jj82

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#14 posted 07-16-2017 08:45 PM



First rule, completely stay away from Rigid. Worst boat anchors to ever be labeled table saws.
The slightly more expensive Delta sold by Lowes is better based on reviews I ve seen.
The next step up is Grizzly, in my humble opinion. That is what I intend to replace my Craftsman/Rigid TS with. And a good Grizzly can be had for less than a grand.

- crank49


Ive got a Ridgid TS3650 that i bought second hand 5 years ago and couldn’t be happier.Also my jointer, planer, and spinal sander are Ridgid. I got less than a 1000$ in all of them combined. Im no fine craftsman but they have served me very well.

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Mike

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#15 posted 07-16-2017 10:36 PM

I also have a 4512. Upgraded fence and added a Sharkguard. Works well and is a good bang for the buck. Would I like a better saw? Absolutely, but my budget can’t meet the price of one that would be better (at least 4 times what I paid for my new 4512. I particularly like the dust collection.

-- Mike

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Carey Mitchell

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#16 posted 07-16-2017 11:21 PM

I have had the 3650 for about 12 years and it is great. Table is absolutely flat. That said, I have heard quite a bit about Ridgid’s quality is recent years. It appears that they have been pursuing the race to the bottom in price and quality.

Loren, you piqued my curiosity and I ran acrosss this article on ageing vs. machinability of cast iron

http://web.mst.edu/~lekakhs/webpage%20Lekakh/Articles/12-026.pdf

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TheFridge

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#17 posted 07-17-2017 02:40 AM

That’s interesting

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Rob_s

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#18 posted 07-17-2017 01:13 PM

Any tips or tricks on loading this thing into the back of the truck to return it without killing myself?

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BlasterStumps

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#19 posted 07-17-2017 03:33 PM

I would try to enlist a couple strong people to help. If you don’t have that option, what about laying a couple planks up to the back of the bed like loading ramps and then tip it over on it’s top onto the planks then sliding it up. You would for sure need to secure the planks so they don’t slide when sliding the saw and give them some support underneath about midway up. If you have a strap hoist you could use that to slide it. Or, do you have a neighbor with a front loader on a tractor. You could sling it in that case and set it in the bed. I use my 8N Ford with a gin pole on the 3-pt, that works too. Might add…be careful. don’t get fingers or feet under it. Danged things are heavy.


Any tips or tricks on loading this thing into the back of the truck to return it without killing myself?

- Rob_s


-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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Rob_s

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#20 posted 07-17-2017 03:49 PM

I may try to tip/roll it in with the help of another person. I just don’t want to damage it in some way that they’ll use as an excuse not to take it back. And I sure as hell don’t want to amaze my truck! Or myself!

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crank49

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#21 posted 07-30-2017 07:43 PM

First rule, completely stay away from Rigid. Worst boat anchors to ever be labeled table saws.
The slightly more expensive Delta sold by Lowes is better based on reviews I ve seen.
The next step up is Grizzly, in my humble opinion. That is what I intend to replace my Craftsman/Rigid TS with. And a good Grizzly can be had for less than a grand.

- crank49

You re basing this on internet reviews or your own experience?

- Rob_s


I own a Craftsman 88133 which is exactly the same saw (except for paint and motor) as the Rigid R4512. It is the worst tool I ever purchased.
But, for the record, I don’t think the Rigid TS 3650 has the same problem at all. They were nice saws as far as I could tell. In fact, I had been looking for one when I came upon the 88133 one day in Sears. Rigid came out with the R4512 about 6 months after I bought the 88133.

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