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what glue

by Karda
posted 05-26-2017 11:01 PM


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Woodknack

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#1 posted 05-27-2017 12:27 AM

Super glue or hot glue

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#2 posted 05-27-2017 12:55 AM

I use the double sided tape!

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#3 posted 05-27-2017 01:48 AM

LOL – If I tried to just use tape on these, I would probably be missing a few teeth :)
(and super glue/hot melt glue probably wouldn’t be much better)

If you will be using the tailstock for support, almost anything will work… but if you want to turn something without the tailstock (like on the bowl blanks above), then you want as strong a bond as possible. YMMV.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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Karda

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#4 posted 05-27-2017 01:52 AM

what I turn even bowels at least till I get better will be smaller. I something I don’t have to wait overnight. Just super glue or is there a superglue for wood

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Woodknack

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#5 posted 05-27-2017 03:53 AM

The best super glue I’ve ever tried is Loctite Pro in the blue bottle. And I’ve tried a lot of super glues.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Karda

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#6 posted 05-27-2017 03:58 AM

thanks Rick, what kind of hot glue

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 05-27-2017 03:38 PM

I used to use carpenters glue paper joints and had to wait a day before turning depending upon time of the year. Also used hot melt glue for turning small items with a tenon glued into a hole in waste block. I still use both methods if helps design of what am turning. If wanted fast just used face plates and screws back then and will if feel necessary today.

CA glue is fast but doesn’t have much shear strength, having said that turners been using it for years. Brand to doesn’t matter as much as when it was made. Shelf life not more than 1 or 2 years. Older it gets reliability becomes iffy.

Today everyone seems to be hung up on a chuck for their lathe which is understandable given the price of extra face plates and time to mount wood on the lathe. Sometimes the old methods just as good and as safe.

-- Bill

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Karda

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#8 posted 05-27-2017 04:22 PM

thanks, a chuck isn’t in the cards right now. I got a tap and thread my glue blocks. for anything heavy I will use a face plate. But i want to know the limitations of glue. Thanks Mike

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thechipcarver

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#9 posted 05-27-2017 07:06 PM

I use Scotch brand High Performance Repair Glue for my projects. It’s very strong and dries very quick.

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/836167P

-- While teaching a class, a gentlemen once asked me: "When chip carving an intricate design, what do you do when you are almost finished and the wood breaks off?" I replied "Cover the kids ears."

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#10 posted 05-28-2017 07:07 PM

For wood to wood contact regular PVA white or yellow wood glues probably the best choice for the money. Never used a wood tap & die set, my thread chaser set hangs on the wall unused!

Think if devote a day to scrounging wood (fire or pallet wood) to make your tap & die face plates glue drying times will not be a problem.

With exception of hot melt & two sided tape which can use in seconds or minutes all other glues require 24 hours to reach full strength. Not sure would use two sided tape but hot melt glue might work in a pinch but would not use it for every faceplate you make.

Started out using faceplates with wood waste blocks turning bowls. Either screwed the blank onto the faceplate using sheet metal screws after learning sheet rock screws not the best or waste blocks and glued paper joints.

Got most of my wood for waste blocks mostly poplar or oak pallets from trash bin behind a furniture store. Started turning between centers before mounting on my faceplates & waste blocks.

-- Bill

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#11 posted 05-28-2017 10:27 PM

I know a lot of people use CA, hot-melt, double-faced tape, etc. and seem to be satisfied with their choice. Personally I don’t trust any of them. I use PVA (Titebond I) on hardwood glue blocks and let them dry overnight. Never been a problem. What’s the hurry?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#12 posted 05-28-2017 11:15 PM

no real hurry I will use the PVA most of the time, but it happened a couple time when i couldn’t do a project because I had a piece between centers drying. Need to figure out a clamp system so I don’t have to do it in the lathe.

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#13 posted 05-29-2017 12:43 AM

By far hands down, the strongest “super glue” is Gorilla Glue. I don’t know what they do differently, but it’s my instant go-to CA when I don’t need thin CA.

Loc-Tite is on the bottom of the list.

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#14 posted 05-29-2017 12:54 AM

If you just can’t wait, then use 5 minute epoxy. Clamp a waste block to your piece and wait about 15 minutes and you are good to go. No need to clamp between centers use any kind of clamp to hold the block to the blank, then screw your block onto the lathe. I use scraps of 2X to make waste blocks and tape my blank to it with turners tape. It is not the foam double sided tape, it’s made for turning and as long as the surfaces are flat, it will hold. Have to pry pieces apart with a chisel. Even rough pieces like Mr. Unix showed need to have the bottom flattend to install on the lathe or screw it to a face plate, even glue wont hold if the mating faces are not flat together. And yes, I do use turners tape to hold cookies for turning.

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Karda

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#15 posted 05-29-2017 04:07 AM

thanks for all of your suggestion, I got some Gorilla super glue, the 5 min epoxy is good I didn’t think of that. I may also try making a screw on face plate with hard wood

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Rich

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#16 posted 05-29-2017 04:12 AM



thanks for all of your suggestion, I got some Gorilla super glue, the 5 min epoxy is good I didn t think of that. I may also try making a screw on face plate with hard wood

- Karda

The 5-min epoxy might set in five minutes, but be sure to read the spec sheet to see how long it takes to fully cure.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#17 posted 05-29-2017 04:19 AM

ok

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hairy

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#18 posted 05-29-2017 03:39 PM

but it happened a couple time when i couldn t do a project because I had a piece between centers drying. Need to figure out a clamp system so I don t have to do it in the lathe.

- Karda

After 20 minutes you can take it off the lathe, it’s not going to move.

-- Genghis Khan and his brother Don, couldn't keep on keeping on...

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#19 posted 05-29-2017 04:14 PM

thanks that is good to know

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#20 posted 05-29-2017 04:57 PM

To clarify something, Loctite makes more than one type of super glue. The regular kind is no different than anything else, they are all the same. The Loctite Pro which I recommend is superior to anything else, not just in strength but also in usability. See my review for details.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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