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Is my table saw a lemon?

by jtrz
posted 05-26-2017 07:30 PM


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Loren

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#1 posted 05-26-2017 07:35 PM

Sometimes contractor saws can benefit from
filing the adjustment slots of the trunnions.

I’ve done this a couple of times on saws.

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jtrz

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#2 posted 05-26-2017 07:44 PM

I think that needs to happen but I’ve done anything like that before. Any advice on the best way to do that?

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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Loren

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#3 posted 05-26-2017 07:48 PM

You would need to remove the trunnions
one at a time and open up the slots using
a round file.

A length of wood wedged under the arbor
assembly can keep it in place until the
trunnion is replaced.

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jtrz

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#4 posted 05-26-2017 08:14 PM

Would filing the trunnions help with making the blade 90 degrees to the table? After loosening the 90 degree set screw i can get my blade in the right spot but once I start tightening the set screw, the blade just tilts right back to where it was. Around 2 degrees out of square!

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#5 posted 05-26-2017 08:25 PM

no.

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Madmark2

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#6 posted 05-26-2017 08:35 PM

Now you know why it was such a ‘bargain’ . . . Caveat emptor

M

-- The hump with the stump

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#7 posted 05-26-2017 08:38 PM



You would need to remove the trunnions
one at a time and open up the slots using
a round file.

A length of wood wedged under the arbor
assembly can keep it in place until the
trunnion is replaced.

- Loren

X2


-- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working.

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DS

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#8 posted 05-26-2017 08:40 PM

Could it be that the table has a twist in it? I would check for flatness.
It would not be the first time a contractor’s saw took a tumble off the tailgate. (Sometimes on the freeway)

My 2 cents

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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Kurt T. Kneller

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#9 posted 05-26-2017 08:41 PM



I bought a ridgid TS24001 on Craigslist a while back and for the life of me I can t get the blade square to the miter slots. I have spent hours over many days and I cannot get it much below a 1/16th of an inch difference from front to back of the blade. I just don t know what else I can do. The saw itself is in absolutely primo shape. It has barely been used but I just can t get it aligned.

Does anyone have this saw or can offer me any info that I might be overlooking?

- jtrz


I have the same saw. Bought it new about 20 years ago. Blade adjustment by always a bear . I Added a couple of washers to each bolt and some white lithium grease and would use a clamp on the trunion when tightening the bolts. Ended up adding saw pals. ALL is good

-- Start with ten, end with ten.......

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jtrz

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#10 posted 05-26-2017 09:37 PM

Kurt,

Did you ever run into problems getting blade square to the table? The only way to keep it square is to not tighten the set screw which I’m sure would not be a good idea.

I see how I can clamp the front trunnion but how do you clamp the rear trunnion?

As far as twist goes, I don’t notice anything like that. Everything is pretty flat and there is really no damage at all on the saw. I can just tell by looking at this thing that it has only seen very light duty work.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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papadan

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#11 posted 05-26-2017 09:42 PM

Kurts saw is different if it is 17 years old (year they came out) I have the original TS 2400 and it is different than the newer Chinese models. Inspect where the bolt tightens and see if it is crushed out some from over tightening. If it is, you can take it apart and file it flat so it doesn’t pull the alignment back to the same place each time. These saws are aluminum and easy to crush the brackets and frame when tightening bolts.

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jtrz

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#12 posted 05-26-2017 09:47 PM

Which bolt are you referring to? I am pretty sure this saw is at least 12 years old.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#13 posted 05-26-2017 09:53 PM

You stated that you can adjust it straight but it pulls back out of adjustment when you tighten it, right? Where are you located?

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#14 posted 05-26-2017 09:55 PM

Do they make PALS for your model saw? I added those to my previous Craftsman saw and they worked great for alignment.

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#15 posted 05-26-2017 10:09 PM

Saw pals are for contractor saws not these portable saws.

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jtrz

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#16 posted 05-26-2017 10:14 PM

Ok you are talking about the 90 degree set screw. Yes that is true. here are some photos pre tightening and after tightening:

I’m in Louisville, Ky

I honestly didn’t even know what PALS were until someone mentioned it on here. Not sure if they have one for this model.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#17 posted 05-26-2017 10:16 PM

On my contractor’s saw (different make, but also an older “bargain” saw) I can only get the blade 88 or 89 degrees to the table after the set screw is tight (it’s at 90 before). The issue on my saw is the motor is mounted using plastic parts that flex allowing the motor and blade to move out of square when I tighten up the screw.

I’m in the market for a new saw but until then I’ve gotten pretty good with a jack plane.

-- - Allen (Marietta, GA) In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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#18 posted 05-26-2017 10:22 PM

If you are in Louisville I would be happy to come over and help you with it. Send me a PM and we can get together.

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#19 posted 05-26-2017 10:23 PM

I am not familiar with your exact model of saw. On many tools, the act of trying to tighten a stop screw and the jam nut that holds it in place results in moving the stop point past the mark. You might need to set the stop by a trial and error process. You know that the current setting pushes the blade too far in one direction. Back off the lock nut, turn the set screw, and re-tighten the lock nut. Check the result. Keep adjusting the set screw until you get it locked in at 90 degrees.

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jtrz

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#20 posted 05-26-2017 10:25 PM

papadan: just sent you a message

Kazoo

I think you are right. Over adjusting and then letting the set screw bring it back. Man what a pain.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#21 posted 05-26-2017 10:27 PM

Yes, They are. I Thought OP said it was a contractor but see now it was Loren in first reply that mentioned contractor saw.


Saw pals are for contractor saws not these portable saws.

- papadan


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#22 posted 05-26-2017 11:40 PM

Im no farmer, but im pretty sure that’s not a lemon. Maybe an orange…

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"

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#23 posted 05-27-2017 12:07 AM

I want to give a big thanks to papadan. He lives just down the road from me and he swung over here and helped me get this baby tuned up. Now I’m ready to get to work.

Thank you Dan!!

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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GR8HUNTER

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#24 posted 05-27-2017 12:29 AM

way to go Papa Dan …...WOOOOO HOOOOOO :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#25 posted 05-27-2017 12:48 AM

Not a problem, just holler if ya need anything.

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Kurt T. Kneller

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#26 posted 05-27-2017 09:26 PM

Clamp the rear reunion. I didn’t realize his saw was that different

-- Start with ten, end with ten.......

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#27 posted 05-27-2017 09:54 PM

We got it all set up Kurt. He was over tightening the miter stop causing it to move. We also squared up his fence and Jeff is good to go. His TS24001 is real close to my TS2400. I would recommend these saws to anyone wanting an accurate table saw.

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