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Another table saw thread...sorry

by partsman109
posted 04-22-2017 01:59 PM


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#1 posted 04-22-2017 02:19 PM

I hav the second saw. U should buy the 3rd saw. The fence is worth more than the asking price

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#2 posted 04-22-2017 02:50 PM

The biggest issue with this kind of saws is zero dust collectiion. When I had a similar style saw I would not even think using it inside the garage.
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#3 posted 04-22-2017 03:48 PM

He said he was far from a professional. As a hobbyist I’ve never really need a dust collection system but then again I hav many hobbies. I guess that would only b an issue depending if u used it a lot or mayb if u had a small working place.

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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partsman109

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#4 posted 04-23-2017 02:47 PM

Thank you for the replies!

I will look into the 3rd saw…was leaning towards that one anyway. If I find any others, I’ll post them here.
Thanks again!

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#5 posted 04-23-2017 03:39 PM

I have a Cman 100 which is nearly identical to the first saw. Other than the fence which is a real pain, I have had no issues save for the original motor. I replaced it with a 2 hp from an air compressor and have a rock solid saw.

As for dust collection,I’m still working on that….

-- Proud owner of an electronics free workshop. Please check your cell phone at the door!

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#6 posted 04-23-2017 05:50 PM

Third one has the best fence, thus is best choice IMO. With that fence at that price they don’t last long in my area. Get it aligned, and put a decent blade on it. Something like the Irwin Marples series are made in Italy, and start at ~ $30.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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partsman109

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#7 posted 05-13-2017 03:45 PM

This one popped up yesterday…it’s a Delta 36-725. The ad says “never used or setup”...100 bucks seems like a decent price, Lowes has it online for $599.

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#8 posted 05-13-2017 03:52 PM

maybe this will help in your decision …... I would buy last one …don’t wait to long :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#9 posted 05-13-2017 05:15 PM

I would be shocked if that Delta wasn’t stolen at that price. There’s something funny there.

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#10 posted 05-13-2017 06:06 PM


maybe this will help in your decision …... I would buy last one …don t wait to long :<))

- GR8HUNTER


Thanks for the link, I actually started reading that when I first searched for it…but…

I would be shocked if that Delta wasn t stolen at that price. There s something funny there.

- jonah


I think you’re right…the ad has already been taken down. Someone did reply to my email though.

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#11 posted 07-07-2017 05:03 PM

How about this Delta?...the price is reasonable at $150…and it’s right in my town…

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#12 posted 07-07-2017 05:30 PM

I’ve used a Delta very similar to the last one you posted. Not a bad saw. I’d say either that or the Cman 100 in the first set of pictures. The Delta fence will work well. I’m not a huge fan of Cman stuff from the 80s.

-- Rodney, Centralia, WA, USA www.etsy.com/shop/ASturdyStick

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#13 posted 07-07-2017 05:38 PM

The second and third are 113 series Craftsman TSs, which where made by Emerson and have a solid reputation. They can be dialed in very accurately and have ample HP for most work in SW or HW up to 5/4 thick.

The third has the extruded AL rail fence, which is actually a very good fence, which clamps for and aft with the cam lever action. It also looks like it has the cast iron extension wings with the open webbing filled in with some type of sheet metal. I ran a saw very similar to this for years before I refurbished an old Jet 3 HP cabinet saw and it did everything I asked of it very well. This is by far the best option of the three saws… mainly due to the fence. I think that if you can get it for $300 or less it will be a good deal and you’ll be very happy.

The Delta contractor saw is also a very good saw, but this example has stamped sheet metal extension wings and the Craftsman (#3) has (in my opinion) a better fence.

-- Matt -- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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#14 posted 07-07-2017 06:07 PM

My Grandfather (a professional cabinetmaker) had a saw identical to the first one. Other than replacing the motor (as noted) it is STILL in use three generations later, by my oldest brother. Brother # 2 liked it so much, he bought one just like it. BUT, I agree with that saw #3 would be the one to go after if it’s still available. If not, Saw #1 would be the next candidate. (Not to sound too much like Monte Hall on “Let’s Make A Deal”

-- OleGrump

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#15 posted 07-08-2017 02:08 AM

I have the third one and other than the fence, it is a great saw. I’m restoring an older Biesemeyer fence system to install on it. Go for that one.

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#16 posted 08-29-2017 01:32 AM

Hi guys…after months of searching, I finally found a saw!
I just picked it up tonight and I’m pretty excited to set it up and start using it!

Here’s the Craigslist ad…


Yes, that says 117 dollars!!

The guy gave me everything for it…

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#17 posted 08-29-2017 01:42 AM

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#20 posted 08-29-2017 01:50 AM

It’s pretty clean, and barely used…I think I did ok for $117.

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#21 posted 08-29-2017 01:56 AM

You did great for 117. Heck, even127 would have been great.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#22 posted 08-29-2017 10:52 AM

Yes you did do well. Congrats.

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#23 posted 08-29-2017 11:32 AM

That’s a good saw, and not seen much use.
For the price it’s a steal.

You will find it a bit under-powered if you are cutting heavy hardwood stock, You will need a good ripping blade. a general purpose blade will be slow going. (I speak from a professionals point of view) If one isn’t in the budget, listen to the motor. feed at a rate that allows the motor to stay at top speed.

and most important, be safe and have fun

-- nice recovery, They should pay extra for that mistake, Eric E.

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#24 posted 08-29-2017 11:46 AM

That’s a heck of a deal for such a nice saw. That earns you a “you suck” lol

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#25 posted 08-29-2017 12:50 PM

Thanks guys!...I definitely lucked out on this one.

I have to work my 2nd job tonight so I won’t be able to mess with it until Wednesday.

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#26 posted 08-31-2017 12:58 PM

I started cleaning it up a little bit last night, vacuumed out the cob webs and saw dust and blew it out with some compressed air. I also made sure all the fasteners were tight.

And I mounted the motor…

...after I cleaned it up a little first, of course…wiped it down and blew it out.
It’s missing the plastic cover…I’ll see if I can find one somewhere.

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#27 posted 08-31-2017 01:37 PM

Geez, what’s up with the guy practically giving it away? LOL

In my area, that saw would’ve been listed for a minimum of $400.

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#28 posted 08-31-2017 02:16 PM

The seller (Paul, who was a super nice guy) told me it was his father-in-laws, he used it very little (clearly) but left it in Paul’s shed…Paul needed some space back and asked what he wanted to do with it. He told Paul to just get rid of it…which Paul did! lol

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#29 posted 08-31-2017 05:50 PM

Does anyone know what this color is called or where I can get it?

It doesn’t appear to be ‘High Seas Gray’ or Krylon Pewter Gray…

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#30 posted 08-31-2017 07:02 PM

From the photo, it looks like it’s just white. But I doubt you will find any off the shelf rattle can color that will be an exact match… if that is what you are looking for, take a piece to have scanned and color matched.

BTW: Sherwin Williams “High Seas” was discontinued a couple years ago unfortunately. That is what I used on my 1950 band saw, and was a near perfect match for it. Sort of more greenish grey than what was used on later years.

Cheers,
Brad

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#31 posted 08-31-2017 07:17 PM

It’s called “You Suck Gray” and you can usually find it at Suckitmart… Seriously, RI must be a used TS haven because all of those you posted have all been pretty darn good deals! Great find on the Delta, that’s the best of the bunch except for Mr. Five Finger Discount’s deal that disappeared quick. No idea where to find the exact gray to match, just wanted to congratulate you on the great grab, you will enjoy that saw.

-- Jarrett - Mount Vernon, Ohio

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#32 posted 08-31-2017 07:24 PM


From the photo, it looks like it s just white. But I doubt you will find any off the shelf rattle can color that will be an exact match… if that is what you are looking for, take a piece to have scanned and color matched.

It’s a crappy picture, sorry…it has like a gray-ish tint to it. I’ll get it scannned and see if I can get it in a spray can. I would just like to touch up the table extensions.


BTW: Sherwin Williams “High Seas” was discontinued a couple years ago unfortunately. That is what I used on my 1950 band saw, and was a near perfect match for it. Sort of more greenish grey than what was used on later years.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


It’s definitely lighter than High Seas…thank you for the reply sir!

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#33 posted 08-31-2017 07:35 PM



It s called “You Suck Gray” and you can usually find it at Suckitmart… Seriously, RI must be a used TS haven because all of those you posted have all been pretty darn good deals! Great find on the Delta, that s the best of the bunch except for Mr. Five Finger Discount s deal that disappeared quick. No idea where to find the exact gray to match, just wanted to congratulate you on the great grab, you will enjoy that saw.

- smitdog


Hahaha thanks man!...I can’t wait to start using it!

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#34 posted 09-01-2017 12:26 AM

Sweet deal on a very functional saw. Check the alignment, and get a good blade for it. A good 3/32” thin kerf blade should help with power. I’d stick with at least something like a Freud Diablo, Irwin Marples, CMT ITK Plus, or DW Precision Trim at $30-$50 range, if not an Infinity, Freud Industrial, or CMT Industrial for a bit more.

Well done! Enjoy!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#35 posted 09-01-2017 02:48 AM



Sweet deal on a very functional saw. Check the alignment, and get a good blade for it. A good 3/32” thin kerf blade should help with power. I d stick with at least something like a Freud Diablo, Irwin Marples, CMT ITK Plus, or DW Precision Trim at $30-$50 range, if not an Infinity, Freud Industrial, or CMT Industrial for a bit more.

Well done! Enjoy!

- knotscott


Thank you very much sir!...you must have been reading my mind, I was just wondering about the blade today and was hoping you would chime in with a recommendation or two! Thank you!

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#36 posted 09-01-2017 11:08 AM

Thank you very much sir!...you must have been reading my mind, I was just wondering about the blade today and was hoping you would chime in with a recommendation or two! Thank you!

- partsman109

Saw Blades – It really boils down to how picky you want to be about results, how you work, and budget.

One 40T or 50T blade can be very good on the majority of tasks, but even the $100+ premium blades will fall short in thicker ripping and finer crosscuts/plywood. Freud LU86, LU83, Infinity 010-150, CMT 215.050.10 are all very good mid to upper level blades at a reasonable price IMO.

For more money you get into a decent 24T rip blade and a 60T crosscut blade that will expand your cutting range, and will outperform the expensive premium 40T general purpose blades. Infinity 010-124 & Infinity 010-060, Freud LU87 & LU88, CMT 250.024.10 & 205.060.10, or any mix of these. The Hi-ATB grind of the Infinity 010-060 offers the cleanest crosscut and ply cuts of these 60T blades. An 80T could offer even cleaner crosscuts, but what I like about these particular 60T blades is that they’ll perform well as a general purpose blade until you get into thicker ripping….which is where the 24T blade comes in.

Ridge Carbide, Forrest, Amana, Tenryu, and Guhdo, among others, also have some really nice blades.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#37 posted 09-01-2017 12:50 PM

Thanks very much, again…I really appreciate it!

Looks like I have a little research to do…I will probably start with a decent mid-level general purpose blade and go from there depending on what I’m working on.

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#38 posted 09-01-2017 02:47 PM

I think I will try the Freud LU86R010…it’s a decent price on Amazon (thanks for the link, Scott!) and seems to be a good all purpose blade.

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#39 posted 09-01-2017 06:44 PM

Congrats on getting a nice saw.

-- Rodney, Centralia, WA, USA www.etsy.com/shop/ASturdyStick

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#40 posted 09-02-2017 01:15 AM



Congrats on getting a nice saw.

- rodneywt1180b


Thank you sir!...I appreciate it.

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#41 posted 09-02-2017 01:22 AM

I put the guard, the other extension, and loosely bolted the fence on tonight. It’s starting to look like a table saw now…

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#42 posted 09-02-2017 01:35 AM

This the blade that came with the saw…

I haven’t tried cutting with it yet…I did power it up for a few seconds tonight and there seemed to be a vibration, it wasn’t as smooth as I think it should be. I did take the blade off while I was putting the guard on…I wish I powered it up before I took it off to see if it had a vibration.

I will have to check the motor alignment again and maybe try another belt.

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#43 posted 09-02-2017 09:07 PM

I got it all assembled…

I don’t think the previous owner made any of the fine adjustments, I just went through the whole thing and nothing was really set. Seems to be all good now!

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#44 posted 09-02-2017 09:17 PM

I adjusted the motor and pulley today…no more vibration!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVvpsLFxnPw&feature=share

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#45 posted 09-02-2017 09:24 PM


I will have to check the motor alignment again and maybe try another belt.

- partsman109

You may want to consider a link type belt. You can get them at Harbor Freight or on Amazon. They can cure allot of vibration issues just by themselves.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#46 posted 09-02-2017 09:36 PM



You may want to consider a link type belt. You can get them at Harbor Freight or on Amazon. They can cure allot of vibration issues just by themselves.

- Ripper70


Thank you!...I remember reading about those link belts running really smooth, I might have to get one.

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#47 posted 09-02-2017 09:42 PM

I remember reading about those link belts running really smooth, I might have to get one.
- partsman109

In some circumstances they can help vibration, mostly on machines that tension the belt using the weight of the motor… however, they can cause damage as well. They will eat die-cast and pot-metal pulleys, and can cause premature wear on other types. If you solved your vibration problem through proper alignment, I’d save the cash and spend it on a good blade instead.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#48 posted 09-02-2017 10:11 PM

Thanks for the info!...I had no idea of those side effects.

It’s pretty smooth now that I spent some time adjusting it properly…it powers up and just hums!

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#49 posted 09-02-2017 11:46 PM

Now that its running smoothly, don’t fix it anymore! I agree with Brad….put the money towards a blade.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#50 posted 09-02-2017 11:55 PM

Throw a freud fusion think kerf on there and you’ll be good to go for rips and cross cuts.

For joinery get the infinity rip with a flat top grind.

With those two blades you can do everything.

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