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14" Bandsaws: Shop Fox W1706 or Delta 28-400 ???

by Don Stephenson
posted 04-14-2017 03:04 AM


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Hockey

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#1 posted 04-14-2017 03:59 AM

I was looking at the Shop Fox just yesterday at a local hardware store. Looks solidly built. I am tempted to get it; but, I am also tempted by the Grizzly G0555LX. Never seen the Delta one you are comparing, so I can’t tell you which I would choose. Nice thing about the Shop Fox for me is that it is stocked in a local hardware store.

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Jim Dawson

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#2 posted 04-15-2017 08:41 PM

I’ve owned the Shop Fox for a year and am very happy with it. I added the 6” extension block a few months ago.
I like the cast iron wheels on the Shop Fox as opposed to the aluminum ones on the Delta.

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BillyDoubleU

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#3 posted 04-16-2017 01:35 AM



I was looking at the Shop Fox just yesterday at a local hardware store. Looks solidly built. I am tempted to get it; but, I am also tempted by the Grizzly G0555LX. Never seen the Delta one you are comparing, so I can t tell you which I would choose. Nice thing about the Shop Fox for me is that it is stocked in a local hardware store.

- Hockey

The grizzly GO555LX is on sale right now for $525. Not in stock though. Comes in around mid May.

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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Matt Hegedus

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#4 posted 04-16-2017 03:19 AM

I would go with the Shop Fox personally, due to the cast iron support and possible extension block.

-- From Pittsburgh, PA

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Hockey

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#5 posted 04-16-2017 04:53 AM

I was looking at the Shop Fox just yesterday at a local hardware store. Looks solidly built. I am tempted to get it; but, I am also tempted by the Grizzly G0555LX. Never seen the Delta one you are comparing, so I can t tell you which I would choose. Nice thing about the Shop Fox for me is that it is stocked in a local hardware store.

- Hockey

The grizzly GO555LX is on sale right now for $525. Not in stock though. Comes in around mid May.

- BillyDoubleU

Thanks. I saw that. Makes it very tempting. I know the Grizzly price doesn’t include shipping; but, the Shop Fox at the local hardware store is $730.00.

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BillyDoubleU

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#6 posted 04-16-2017 05:21 AM


I was looking at the Shop Fox just yesterday at a local hardware store. Looks solidly built. I am tempted to get it; but, I am also tempted by the Grizzly G0555LX. Never seen the Delta one you are comparing, so I can t tell you which I would choose. Nice thing about the Shop Fox for me is that it is stocked in a local hardware store.

- Hockey

The grizzly GO555LX is on sale right now for $525. Not in stock though. Comes in around mid May.

- BillyDoubleU

Thanks. I saw that. Makes it very tempting. I know the Grizzly price doesn t include shipping; but, the Shop Fox at the local hardware store is $730.00.

- Hockey

$725.94 with a mobile base after shipping and lift gate service.

Has a 6” riser block available for purchase as well. Comes with a fence and miter gauge.

I couldn’t pass it up.

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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Hockey

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#7 posted 04-16-2017 02:14 PM

BillyDoubleU, congratulations. Now, the waiting is the hard part. The mobile base would be a necessary option for me.

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BillyDoubleU

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#8 posted 04-16-2017 02:21 PM



BillyDoubleU, congratulations. Now, the waiting is the hard part. The mobile base would be a necessary option for me.

- Hockey

Thanks!

I have lots of plans for that saw ;)

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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TaySC

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#9 posted 08-05-2017 08:14 PM

Any follow-up on these bandsaws? I’m really considering the Delta 28-400, but I see a lot recommending Shop Fox or Grizzly instead.

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Bill White

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#10 posted 08-05-2017 08:23 PM

0555LX here. No regrets.
Bill

-- [email protected]

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TaySC

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#11 posted 08-05-2017 08:28 PM

Any follow-up on these bandsaws? I’m really considering the Delta 28-400, but I see a lot recommending Shop Fox or Grizzly instead.


0555LX here. No regrets.
Bill

- Bill White

I assume the Grizzly just comes on a truck and they meet you at the road for pickup? Grizzly seems like a solid product, just wish they were sold at a local store.

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MrUnix

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#12 posted 08-05-2017 08:30 PM

The steel frame is stiffer and better able to tension blades properly. The cast iron frame will flex more. Only advantage to the cast iron frame is the ability to add a riser block – which adds even more flex. Generally, if you want more re-saw capacity, it’s better to get a bigger saw. If you are cool with the cast iron frame saws, then you may want to consider finding a used Delta, which the others are clones of, and can be found for significantly less green.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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doubleG469

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#13 posted 08-05-2017 08:32 PM

As of today, i will only buy a sawstop.

Massive jagged fracture, 15 stitches (Not enough meat for the rest), so I’d say price the sawstop. Imho

-- I refuse to edit the photo orientation for this website any longer. It’s an issue they should address and correct. Gary, Texas

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MrUnix

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#14 posted 08-05-2017 08:39 PM

[...] so I’d say price the sawstop.
- doubleG469

I was unaware that they made a band saw – please point us to more info on it.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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BillyDoubleU

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#15 posted 08-05-2017 09:07 PM

Must be talking about a table saw.

Either way. I really like my g0555LX. It’s the first bandsaw I’ve used since high school so take that into account.

I tuned it the Snodgrass way and it runs quite and great. I have the riser block but am gonna wear this current blade out before putting it on. I can only imagine what a proper quality blade would add.

The dust collects in the bottom wheel house. I use a shop vac so it gets a touch of the dust a dust collector would of course be better.

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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MrUnix

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#16 posted 08-05-2017 09:09 PM

Must be talking about a table saw.

I guess I should have added a smiley face :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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BillyDoubleU

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#17 posted 08-05-2017 09:12 PM



Must be talking about a table saw.

I guess I should have added a smiley face :)

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

:)

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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TaySC

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#18 posted 08-05-2017 09:15 PM

Sorry about your finger doubleG.

Anyone know anything about this bandsaw?
https://greenville.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-16-bandsaw/6213715542.html

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MrUnix

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#19 posted 08-05-2017 09:32 PM

Anyone know anything about this bandsaw?

28-560 perhaps? Three wheel thing and AFAIK, not very popular (like most 3 wheelers). Here is a picture with the cover reomoved:

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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JayT

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#20 posted 08-05-2017 10:08 PM

Grizzly seems like a solid product, just wish they were sold at a local store.

- TaySC

That would be a Shop Fox.

Grizzly and Shop Fox are both owned by Shiraz Balolia. Shop Fox is only sold through dealers and Grizzly is sold direct from the importer. Most of the Shop Fox tools have a Grizzly equivalent with different paint and a shorter warranty (Grizzly is usually 1 year, Shop Fox 2 years). I have a Shop Fox W1706 and it has been a very good saw for my usage. The working parts are identical to a Grizzly G0555LX, the only difference being the Shop Fox has a closed stand with storage compared the open stand on the Grizzly.

On the Delta, three wheeled bandsaws are notorious for breaking blades—the small wheels put a lot of stress on the steel.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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TaySC

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#21 posted 08-05-2017 10:13 PM

JayT, looking them up, it appears the Shop Fox is $150 more than its Grizzly counterpart.

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JayT

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#22 posted 08-05-2017 10:26 PM

Yep. That’s what you pay for dealer support and the longer warranty, plus the better base.

For some people, having a dealer to help with any issues or warranty claims and being able to be hands on with the saw before purchase is worth the extra. Others would rather have the price savings.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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sawnuts

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#23 posted 08-05-2017 11:08 PM

I purchased a G0555LX a few years ago.

Mixed thoughts.

After I used it for a while I wrote Grizzly the following critique:
Grizzly G0555LX Critique

1. The shipping box could have been packed correctly. The words, on the box, were right side up but the contents were packaged up side down in the box. ) instructions were at the bottom of the box as shipped. All the weight was on the top of the box as shipped.
2. Assembly was straight forward.
3. Blade did not line up in small slotted table insert. Needed to file that.
4. Blade guides are adequate but fiddly to adjust. Fine threads are needed here.
5. The rack and pinion assembly needs shorter way adjustment set screws with a tighter fit. They look like a knuckle scraper where they are located. They are not a standard set screw as they have a spring-loaded ball in the end. Also the locking handle for the rack/ pinion needs to be a bigger diameter with fine threads. Better grip/better locking.
6. It would be nice to have a little area to store the allen wrenches that you need to adjust things.
7. The little indicator block on the tensioner is 3/8” thick with no clear indicator for setting tension. You need to remember that the top if the little block below the spring needs to align with the correct spot on the body of the tensioner. A little arrow or pointer would be nice.
8. The upper guide shaft was not parallel to the blade. I needed to adjust the lateral guide for the upper wheel all the way to the rear of the saw making the smaller table insert even more useless.
9. Keep the lock and give me a 110v outlet for accessories (Lamp/vacuum)
10. The tension knob adjustment shaft needs to be long so the knob is located another 1” higher to allow for knuckle clearance.
11. Why does it take 3 different sized allen wrenches to adjust the guide bearings?

Overall I am satisfied with this saw. I have never owned a band saw and I think this is a good value for the price. It just seems that with a little more quality control and retooling (fine threads) this model would be a lot better.

Their response was as long as nothing was broke, there was little they could do.

They just market them and sell them.

Yup, You get what you pay for but as I stated, this could be a killer saw with a few tweaks.

The next user may have a different opinion but they have a different saw and approach things differently than me.

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AlaskaGuy

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#24 posted 08-05-2017 11:26 PM



As of today, i will only buy a sawstop.

Massive jagged fracture, 15 stitches (Not enough meat for the rest), so I d say price the sawstop. Imho

- doubleG469


Saws don’t cut fingers off, people do.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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doubleG469

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#25 posted 08-06-2017 12:39 AM

As of today, i will only buy a sawstop.

Massive jagged fracture, 15 stitches (Not enough meat for the rest), so I d say price the sawstop. Imho

- doubleG469

Saws don t cut fingers off, people do.

- AlaskaGuy


No shit, you are brilliant.

-- I refuse to edit the photo orientation for this website any longer. It’s an issue they should address and correct. Gary, Texas

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HorizontalMike

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#26 posted 08-07-2017 12:51 AM

All of the above have said it already.

The ONLY thing I might add is… ACTUALLY BUY AND USE A BANDSAW. As others have already pointed out, SawStop manufactures “TABLESAWS”.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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AlaskaGuy

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#27 posted 08-07-2017 01:31 AM


As of today, i will only buy a sawstop.

Massive jagged fracture, 15 stitches (Not enough meat for the rest), so I d say price the sawstop. Imho

- doubleG469

Saws don t cut fingers off, people do.

- AlaskaGuy

Thanks.
I also have a sense of humor.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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