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Cabinet saw - how to get from box onto mobile base?

by unclearthur
posted 02-19-2017 06:26 PM


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 02-19-2017 06:58 PM

Find a pallet jack you can borrow?

I didn’t have trouble walking my saw with the top off. Walk it off onto the base maybe? An extra hand wouldn’t hurt.

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#2 posted 02-19-2017 07:07 PM

I just put a shop fox mobile base under my Unisaw and it is not hard. You kind of assemble the base around the saw. I did it myself, you just lever each corner and slide the base under it. I used a wonder bar for a lever. You don’t have lift the whole thing at once and you don’t have to get it more than 1/2” off the floor.

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Woodmaster1

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#3 posted 02-19-2017 07:08 PM

Tips is the keyword, I gave the man a tip for putting it the garage. Generally if they have it on the pallet jack it usually winds up in the garage anyway even if you barrow the jack for a few minutes.

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Hermit

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#4 posted 02-19-2017 07:23 PM

I recently had a laguna fusion table saw delivered. Since the pallet jack wouldn’t fit under the pallet do to configuration,
I just used a hand truck with no problems at all.

-- I'm like the farmer's duck. If it don't rain, I'll walk.

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EugdOT

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#5 posted 02-19-2017 08:04 PM

I did what is In the sawstop manual, easy and no fuss, having the saw on its side with the packing Styrofoam, and just tilted it upwards right onto the base with my wife. Then did the rest of the setup. It’s a 3hp motor I thought I had to struggle but it was lighter than I anticipated,

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Fred Hargis

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#6 posted 02-19-2017 10:25 PM

Many truck drivers will help you get into the building, at least that’s been my experience. They do expect a tip (seems to me) so they typically want to be helpful. Still, they aren’t that hard to move around with a 2 wheel dolly (as long as all the extras are still in the box.

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JBrow

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#7 posted 02-20-2017 12:00 AM

Unclearthur,

Like Fred Hargis, I have found delivery drivers are very accommodating and, once off the truck, will wheel the machine ladened pallet already on their pallet jack right up to or inside the garage.

I have discovered that, by far, the easiest way to set a machine on the mobile base is to use an engine crane hoist. I rented one and, with some tow straps, easily lifted the machine off the pallet and onto the mobile base. In the two instances where I used the engine crane hoist I had a helper but found that his help was not required. Since the engine crane hoist is on wheels and if the driver, for some reason, will not place the machine where you want it, the machine can be lifted and engine crane hoist wheeled to wherever you want the machine.

I did try the tilt up method offered by EugdOT on one occasion. It did not work real well for me. My helper and I lifted the floor model mortiser and things went well until the wheels, which were locked and chalked, engaged the floor. We chased the machine across the floor until it came to rest against the wall. After that, we got it upright without any further problems. The morale of this story is to plan carefully before titling the machine upright.

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unclearthur

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#8 posted 02-20-2017 12:43 AM

@JBrow …....I never thought of that. When you use an engine hoist how did you attach it to the saw ….. at that point the wings and raills are not assembled onto it yet so I’m having trouble visualizing how I would tie it up securely.

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unclearthur

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#9 posted 02-20-2017 01:00 AM



I just put a shop fox mobile base under my Unisaw and it is not hard. You kind of assemble the base around the saw. I did it myself, you just lever each corner and slide the base under it. I used a wonder bar for a lever. You don t have lift the whole thing at once and you don t have to get it more than 1/2” off the floor.

- bondogaposis


Not sure what you mean by “assemble the base around the saw”. Did you assemble 2 sides of the base and slide it under 1 corner, then add another side to the base and then another with the saw already resting on it?

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diverlloyd

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#10 posted 02-20-2017 01:10 AM

I have used ratchet straps and a engine hoist. I wrapped the straps around the body and used three of them. One wrapped and centered on the back side and the other two wrapped and to be the same distance off center on the front. Then all the ratchet mechanisms hang from the engine hoist/cherry picker so if it’s off balance a bit you can adjust each strap individually. Easy peezy if you need pics let me know and I will strap mine up and take some pics.

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Kelster58

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#11 posted 02-20-2017 01:12 AM

I have had 2 deliveries from Grizzly in both cases the driver put the pallet on a pallet jack and rolled it to the spot I asked him to put it. Up your driveway and into your garage would not have been an issue for the drivers that delivered to me. I didn’t tip them and they were very nice.

As far as the shop fox base goes each time the delivery of the base came after the freight came. I slid the saw and the shaper off their pallet on to the floor(be sure to take the brackets off that fasten the machine to the pallet) I just put a piece of 4” wide X 3/4” thick oak in the center of each side of the saw or shaper. I made it 4 inches so the steel on the corner of the mobile base would slide past the wood on the center of the side of the saw. This 3/4” height raised the saw up enough to assemble the base around the machine perfectly. When the base was assembled I used a bar as a lever to raise the saw on each side enough to knock the wood out from under the saw.

My freight was delivered by UPS Freight. They blew off the first delivery appointment they made with me. Grizzly didn’t care about that and wouldn’t help me with that. Do yourself a favor and call Grizzly and the carrier everyday until you see the driver pull up to your house.

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MrUnix

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#12 posted 02-20-2017 01:20 AM

Don’t overthink it… use a hoist or tractor if you got ‘em. But that saw isn’t really that heavy, so with a few good sized friends, it could be lifted up pretty easily to slip a base under. Or, just use cribbing and a jack. Compared to lifting houses, a table saw is pretty trivial :)

Cheers,
Brad

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unclearthur

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#13 posted 02-20-2017 01:31 AM



As far as the shop fox base goes each time the delivery of the base came after the freight came. I just put a piece of 4” wide X 3/4” thick oak in the center of each side of the saw or shaper. I made it 4 inches so the steel on the corner of the mobile base would slide past the wood on the center of the side of the saw. This 3/4” height raised the saw up enough to assemble the base around the machine perfectly. When the base was assembled I used a bar as a lever to raise the saw on each side enough to knock the wood out from under the saw.

- Kelster58


Even as thick as I am, I think I get this. The blocks of wood are short so support the base but don’t extend under the corners, while the mobile base only extends under the base at the corners, not the sides.

How did you get the base from the pallet to your 4 oak blocks?

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unclearthur

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#14 posted 02-20-2017 01:41 AM



Don t overthink it… use a hoist or tractor if you got em. But that saw isn t really that heavy, so with a few good sized friends, it could be lifted up pretty easily to slip a base under. Or, just use cribbing and a jack. Compared to lifting houses, a table saw is pretty trivial :)

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


a) I always overthink everything, typically resulting in paralysis of progress.
b) No hoist, no tractor.
c) My friends are small and weak, like me. Just pick the 500 lb tablesaw up? LOL. Not us.

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Loren

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#15 posted 02-20-2017 02:16 AM

I have hoists but I did this awhile back I think
without a hoist. I found I could tip the saw
up on edge and kick a 2x under the other
edge. Then do the same on the other side.

Add shims or whatever to get it higher.

Once it’s high enough to get over the edge of
the mobile base, push one edge into the base
frame and go from there.

If the saw is upright on the pallet I would just
tip it into the base frame from the pallet.

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MT_Stringer

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#16 posted 02-20-2017 02:58 AM

I have purchased three tools from Grizzly that required the lift gate service including the 1023. Each time SAIA Trucking made the delivery. The driver put the pallet inside my garage. I do admit that when the table saw arrived, me and my son in law helped push the box up the drive as the driver pulled using the pallet jack.

I even had the same driver twice! He said he had a cousin that lives three blocks over from me. :-)

As for getting it on the mobile base, yeah it wasn’t easy. I had two helpers and we wrastled it until we were able to walk it onto the base.

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JBrow

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#17 posted 02-20-2017 03:10 AM

Unclearthur,

I used the engine crane hoist with a bandsaw and jointer, both of which included built-in lift points. I have a little difficulty visualizing diverlloyd’s rigging, but since he figured out a successful rigging method, his method is definitely worth considering. Hopefully he can post a pic. Otherwise I can think of two alternative methods for rigging tow straps.

The first method would be to catch the lip of the table saw’s top at the front and back or on each side of the saw so that the end loops of the tow straps meet above the center of the saw (before installing the wings to the table). However, I would shy away from using the table to lift the saw since I am not confident that the attachment of the saw’s top to the cabinet contemplates the top at as lifting points. But if Grizzly can confirm that the saw may be lifted by the top, this may be the quickest and easiest method.

Otherwise, I would opt for rigging the tow straps as slings under the base of the saw, one tow strap on each side of the saw. The looped ends of the tow straps would wrap up over the saw and meet over the center of the saw and attach to a hook at the end of the engine crane hoist. This presupposes that the saw can be tilted on the pallet enough to get the tow straps under the base of the saw. Likewise, the saw would have to be tilted to remove the tow straps from under the saw once on the mobile base. This second option would probably require some on-site fine tuning to deal with specific issues that may be presented by the saw and the mobile base.

By the way, when I assembled the Shop Fox heavy duty mobile base, I was a little too concerned about tightening the bolts that hold the base together and snapped a bolt. If the Shop Foxx mobile base you buy requires assembly, use caution when torquing down the bolts.

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