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Painting brick

by SweetTea
posted 02-16-2017 01:12 PM


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#1 posted 02-16-2017 03:15 PM

IMHO I would NOT do it
oh yeah this is Lumberjocks :<))

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#2 posted 02-16-2017 03:49 PM

It’s been years since I helped someone do this, but I recall it took an incredible amount of paint. We rolled (this was in the early 70’s) and the roller didn’t get everything, so we had to go back with brushes and touch up the spots on the primer coat. Spraying would have been so much easier. We did 2 coats, obviously the first one was the most work. But we primed (and I recall that being a masonry primer of some kind), then top coated with a latex house paint. Pretty sure just one coat would not have hid the color of the bricks. Can’t help with the airless sprayer concerns. I know you said this was for a relative, but you might want to try and palm this off onto someone else.

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#3 posted 02-16-2017 04:00 PM

My parents painted our (now my) house when I was about 10. We converted our overhead garage door into a walk in, and couldn’t find bricks to match the existing, so I got stuck helping my dad paint it. Pretty much the same experience Fred described above. Rolled out a lot, touched up the seems with a brush. Now I have the only painted-brick house in the neighborhood and I hate it, but blasting off the paint would be a ton of work.

Oh, and it was about this time that my dad started looking to hire someone with experience spraying (he was a painting contractor), so I tend to think that would have been his preferred option.

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#4 posted 02-16-2017 04:22 PM

I can only speak to my experience with my house. My house was built in the 60’s and the entire first floor exterior walls are poured concrete that used forms to look like brick. It had been painted numerous times by the time I bought it 10 years ago. When I bought it, it was a drab gray color. Like a cold, gray sky in winter, it made you sad just looking at it.

I have a friend that is a union painter and has years of experience, so it probably went a lot quicker than it will for you. He used an airless paint sprayer (which you can rent from HD if you don’t want to buy and store it) and lots of masking tape and plastic drop cloths. The entire job was done in 4 hours. But since there were already so many coats, the paint didn’t really soak in.

Before

After

The tan color was the color we chose for the grout lines in the “brick”. I then used a roller to paint the brick faces. But I made such a mess, I had to go back with an artists brush and touch up the grout lines. I should have just sprayed the house red and did the grout lines by hand. I would have saved a couple hundred dollars on paint.

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tealetm

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#5 posted 02-16-2017 04:57 PM

Block filler first- then a good paint. Sherwin Williams is very familiar with this process and can advise you on quantities.

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SweetTea

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#6 posted 02-18-2017 11:03 AM

I spoke to a guy at the Shermin Williams store in Memphis, and he suggested that I go with their Loxon primer. He told me that this is a dedicated masonary primer that was designed to be sprayed with an airless sprayer for just these purposes. It coats and seals the brick so that when I go to shoot on the base coat, it won’t take nearly as much paint because otherwise, if I went with a non dedicated masonary primer the brick would suck the paint up like crazy.

Only thing is, the Loxon primer is $58 per gallon! I have just under 1,700sq/ft of brick to primer and paint. Which if estimating the amount of paint that I will need, I believe that comes to 8.5 gallons of the Loxon primer and 8.5 gallons of their exterior paint. Does this sound reasonable?

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#7 posted 02-18-2017 11:06 AM

Also, the guy that I spoke with there at Shermin Williams suggested that I use an airless sprayer, (which I was already planning on using) and have a second person come in behind where I spray and “back roll” the paint and primer with a roller. Does that sound right to you guys?

Any other helpful tips or advice you guys could help me out with would be much appreciated!

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Fred Hargis

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#8 posted 02-18-2017 12:16 PM

The paint quantity sounds right, or at least it doesn’t sound wrong, I can’t imagine what the purpose of the “back roll” is. Did he say why that was important? BTW, don’t forget to “box” your top coat paint. This is mixing the various cans together in case one has a tint that’s slightly off. The way I’ve always done it was to start with 2 cans and mix them together and start painting. Then after the first gallon was used up, mix the 3rd can with the remaining one from the opening effort. Continue to go that way until finished. If you buy too much primer, you can probably returned the unopened cans, that might be true of the top coat unless it’s a custom tint.

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SweetTea

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#9 posted 02-19-2017 11:25 AM



The paint quantity sounds right, or at least it doesn t sound wrong, I can t imagine what the purpose of the “back roll” is. Did he say why that was important? BTW, don t forget to “box” your top coat paint. This is mixing the various cans together in case one has a tint that s slightly off. The way I ve always done it was to start with 2 cans and mix them together and start painting. Then after the first gallon was used up, mix the 3rd can with the remaining one from the opening effort. Continue to go that way until finished. If you buy too much primer, you can probably returned the unopened cans, that might be true of the top coat unless it s a custom tint.

- Fred Hargis

Yes, I am familiar with mixing the different cans together to avoid variations in the final color. I plan to get one 5 gallon bucket of the Loxon primer with 3 other gallons of the same Loxon primer. I will try to keep mixing the single gallons in to the 5 gallon bucket as I go. I will do the exact same thing for the paint. Thanks for the advice man!

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#10 posted 02-19-2017 11:26 AM

How do you guys think that I should handle the overspray produced by the airless sprayer? Should I build some portable walls framed out of 2×4’s covered in plastic?

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Fred Hargis

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#11 posted 02-19-2017 01:01 PM

I probably wouldn’t, at least in the beginning. If the overspray turns out to be a problem, I’d improvise at the time. You might need some cheap tarps to cover plants or something below.

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#12 posted 02-19-2017 02:12 PM



How do you guys think that I should handle the overspray produced by the airless sprayer? Should I build some portable walls framed out of 2×4 s covered in plastic?

- SweetTea

The pros usually use a handheld paint shield from my experience. I’ve just used a piece of cardboard for small projects.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#13 posted 02-20-2017 10:44 AM

I am assuming that I would want a tip that produces a very wide fan pattern?

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#14 posted 02-20-2017 11:53 AM

Sherwin williams has sales all the time look for a 30% or even on occasion 40% off coupon. It’s expensive paint but their paint is quality. Don’t want to use a cheap paint on the exterior of a house. Nice job on the house tony1212

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#15 posted 02-20-2017 12:11 PM

You might (want a wide spray pattern) but you also need to have enough fluid flow to spray that pattern. So that’s probably another question for the paint store (or wherever you buy the sprayer).

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#16 posted 02-20-2017 03:16 PM

I framed a lot of houses and was able to be there when painters were workin on exterior quite often. when I asked about why a crew was backrolling, the responses made sense- no runs,drips,sags and more even coverage.

im thinkin ya might need a couple different tip sizes for the primer and paint, which the SW guy should be able to help ya chose them. as for fan pattern, you can go as wide as pissible, but ya still want to overlap each pass about 50%

id suggest doin some reading online for airless spraying techniques. its not that hard, but theres a few things that need to work together for good results.

hope yer planning on washing the brick beforehand.

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