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Which has the greater value, Grizzly G0771z or G0715p?

by apehl
posted 02-15-2017 03:10 PM


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#1 posted 02-15-2017 05:36 PM

I have a G0715P with an Incra fence and a Freud LU83. It cuts like a laser. Dead on every time & glue line ready. I do a lot of jatoba (AKA Brazilian Cherry) and it handles everything I’ve thrown at it.

I put an Incra router plate in place of the R wing. There is a big 3-1/2 hp Milwaukee Heavy Duty router hiding under the plate:

Both the saw & router share the precision of the Incra LS-III fence as well as the easy-to-read digital height gauge:

All for about $1500 new.

M

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#2 posted 02-15-2017 06:39 PM

Madmark2 it looks to me that you are pretty serious and experienced (judging by the investment and quality of add ons). When did you buy your saw? Did you have to do much as far as aligning the blade or anything. I have never done any of this before and don’t know if I have days to figure out some of the shortcomings that I have read on other 715p reviews.

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#3 posted 02-16-2017 01:53 AM

Mine came dead on out of the box. I didn’t even install the stock fence. I do a lot of work with jatoba ( AKA Brazilian Cherry ) and it slices right thru without a problem. I use a Freud LU83 thin kerf blade. Both the 90° and 45° stops were dead on according to the Wixey angle cube. The saw is just now three years old with no real problems. The Incra system lets me hit any 1/32” measure +-0.002”. The saw is exceptionally quiet as well. I’m on my 2nd 55 gal barrel of sawdust generated. The flower beds are well mulched and that is essentially all the scrap. My smallest cutoffs get used by my doll house furniture maker friend.

M

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#4 posted 02-16-2017 08:19 PM

You don’t still have your older fence system do you? I don’t have the desire to buy an expensive aftermarket fence system.

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#5 posted 02-16-2017 09:28 PM

I’m in the EXACT same boat.

Was really on board the G0771z, but hear so many folks say the G0715p is a better saw (seems heavier, more steel vs aluminum, etc).

Everytime I get ready to pull the trigger on the G0715p, I’ll get nervous about it being a lemon. I really don’t want to deal with having to return a 400lb+ item.

At the same time, when I think of getting the G0771z, I worry about getting a lesser fence and just less substantial saw. In the comparison chart, it seems like the G0715p has so many things in common with the nicer saws (1023 & 6090) with regard to size & materials which is why I’m having a hard time dropping down to the G0771z.

It seems to me the G0771z is the “safe” choice here – it won’t be as good as the G0715p would be were it to be a “good” one, but it also doesn’t seem to run the risk of having any systematic issues that make it problematic. At the same time, I see all of the acclaim the G0715p gets and all of the places it is highly recommended and wonder if this is simply a case of super detail oriented people making much ado about nothing.

I mean let’s face it – I’m coming from a dwe7480 that was never really “tuned” so I doubt I’ll be anything but blown away by any of these.

Part of me wonders if I should just get the G0771z and use the extra money to potentially put towards a nicer fence.

Would be really curious to get others thoughts.

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#6 posted 02-16-2017 10:18 PM

Where’s knotscott when you need him?

I’ve contemplated the fence upgrade on the 771z too and then I think we’ll if I spend 400 on a new fence I could have just bought the 715p for 100 more or the 690 for the same price. If the 715p had cabinet mounted trunnions there wouldn’t be a question.

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#7 posted 02-16-2017 10:19 PM

Yeah, I thought about “just going with the 1023 and not worry about it”....then my wife found out how much more $$ that was and that was that :)

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#8 posted 02-17-2017 12:03 AM

I’m here, but not sure I completely understand all concerns. The G0771 had a fairly humble fence. The G0771Z has an upgraded fence that’s better, and may be more than suitable, but still doesn’t appear to be on par with one of the better Biese type clones on the cabinet saws….haven’t seen a fence like the one on the G0771Z, so can’t say from experience.

Neither Grizzly hybrid has been in my shop, so my knowledge is mostly gleaned from comments and manual diagrams. From what I’ve read, some feel that the G0715P is the more solid saw than the G0771/G0771Z, but I’m not sure if they’re talking about the working innerds of the saw, the fence, the feel of the hand wheels, or all or some of the above. It’s not unusual to handle a saw with a lesser fence and lighter weight hand wheels, and come to a conclusion that it’s “less rugged” than a saw with a stouter fence and nicer hand wheels. Both are hybrid saws with a full enclosure, decent fences, and solid cast wings. The G0715P appears to have a stouter fence, but the G0771/G0771Z has cabinet mounted trunnions that are easier to reach. The actual underpinnings of the saws are very different from those on a true industrial cabinet saw like the 1023 or G0690…different class of saw for sure, but require 220v.

The G0715P was plagued by some units that suffered from an alignment issue for the first few years of it’s existence. That issue has supposedly been resolved, and it’s been at least a year since I’ve read about a credible new case of that issue. The G0771 hasn’t been out all that long, but I haven’t read of any systemic issues with it. You could always call the Grizzly tech line and chat about the differences to get their take (not CS or the sales numbers, but the actual guys who crawl around under the hoods).

Either way, you can’t buy any of the Grizzly saws without a fence, so I’d postpone any aftermarket fence ideas until after you’ve actually worked with the stock fence for a while….we all have difference needs, wants, and sensitivities about what’s acceptable to us.

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#9 posted 02-17-2017 01:06 AM

Why worry about how you position the miter slot with respect to the blade? Either design works. I have done both. It is a little harder to get them lined up with a table mount trunion. The thing is, you only do it once every 10 years or so. My first contractor style table saw lasted 20 years without having to be readjusted.

I have owned the G0715 now for about 6 months and I am still searching for the fatal design flaw that some people have reported. The only thing I had to do was adjust the fence a little to be parallel with the miter slot.

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#10 posted 02-17-2017 01:33 AM



Why worry about how you position the miter slot with respect to the blade? Either design works. I have done both. It is a little harder to get them lined up with a table mount trunion. The thing is, you only do it once every 10 years or so. My first contractor style table saw lasted 20 years without having to be readjusted.

I have owned the G0715 now for about 6 months and I am still searching for the fatal design flaw that some people have reported. The only thing I had to do was adjust the fence a little to be parallel with the miter slot.

- ArtMann

It just seems like if it was the pervasive, “saw ruining” problem some seem to claim that it wouldn’t be such a highly praised model. I also can’t tell as some folks say things are just a bit off and have to be set up, which seems normal, while some seem to be implying that it is a problem that can’t be fixed.

Ultimately, if this was a 30lb item I could easily send back, I wouldn’t be too concerned with trying. I just really want to avoid having to deal with returning any of these beasts.

I’ll probably ultimately go with the G0715p and hope it works out. Too many other tools I still need to justify the jump up to the full cabinet saws.

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#11 posted 02-17-2017 04:53 AM

I had both G0771 (not z) and 715p. They are very different the second one is a level up over the first. It is much beefier and more resembles big cabinet saw. It is entirely made from steel and cast iron. The first one is a lot of aluminum and does not feel as good. Although underprinting is lacking on both saws. Don’t be fooled by “caninet mounted trunnions” they are flimsier than table mounted trunnions in this implementation.
Intetestingly I did not find the aluminum fence on g0771 to be a disadvantage. On contrary, since it locks down and has slots you can hang a lot of attachments ln it such ad vertical featherboard or saw buddies

If you can swing it go for g1024 price/value ratio is higher with this saw.

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#12 posted 02-17-2017 04:19 PM



I had both G0771 (not z) and 715p. They are very different the second one is a level up over the first. It is much beefier and more resembles big cabinet saw. It is entirely made from steel and cast iron. The first one is a lot of aluminum and does not feel as good. Although underprinting is lacking on both saws. Don t be fooled by “caninet mounted trunnions” they are flimsier than table mounted trunnions in this implementation.
Intetestingly I did not find the aluminum fence on g0771 to be a disadvantage. On contrary, since it locks down and has slots you can hang a lot of attachments ln it such ad vertical featherboard or saw buddies

If you can swing it go for g1024 price/value ratio is higher with this saw.

- Carloz

If you had to buy one over again which would you suggest (assuming your budget is under $1k)

Taking Knotscott advice I called Grizzly and talked to one of their product specialists about both saws. Similar to what ive seen before he claims the issue with the 715p is only due to novices like me who try to over extend the blade height. Once you try and crant the blade height past what it is set at, it throws the trunnions, blade, or something else out of alignment. He said that is the flaw in the machine, Grizzly should have designed it knowing alot of inexperienced buyers be purchasing a hybrid saw. However I have seen many video reviews from what I consider to be well educated and capable makers (Jay Bates and a few others) talk about a design flaw.

In regards to the 771z he felt it was a really good saw and claimed it was a total redesign of the 771 so he didnt really tell me the “changes” or differences between the two. It would seem to me since they still have the 771 and essentially the same specs that its the same saw with a few tweaks, but I dont know. One of his favorite things about it was the fence. He said it locks on the front and the back so it gives it a little more stability. However that sounds more of a preference on fence style since the bies. style fences are highly regarded as one of the best fence designs. Lastly the throat plate is more shallow than the 715p so they dont sell, nor do the recommend a zero clearance insert.

A few closing thoughts/concerns. I have seen with my jobsite saw and with the hybrid ridgid saw that there seem to be alignment issues with similar style fences that lock on both the front and back. Maybe they are designed in a different manner and thats nothing to be worried about, but something to consider. The other being the thin throat plate mount. This may cause more work in order to get custom inserts. Lastly if you are looking to mount a swinging outfeed table on the 771z you wont be able to mount it directly to the rail since it is aluminum and the fence locks onto the rail. With the 715p you have to trust that the table mounted trunnion design wont be an issue for you when it comes to adjustments and alignments. I still havent decided but I am leaning more towards the 715p and will let everyone know what I decide.

I asked his opinion of which he would recommend and he said he liked the 771z. I got the impression it was due to the fence. Plus its a new saw for them, maybe they are all hyped about the new product and trying to push it more?

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#13 posted 02-17-2017 04:23 PM

apehl – not sure what your timeline looks like, but I bit the bullet and got the G0715p this morning. Probably will arrive late next week based on the timing when I ordered my bandsaw.

I’ll give you my report when I get it set up. Ultimately, I just decided to go for the saw that I’d want if everything were as it should be (meaning no issues). If it turns out to be a horrible failure, I can always suck it up, send it back and get the G0771z, but if I get the G0771z I felt like I would have wondered later on if I should have gotten the G0715p.

I’m guessing we’ll be pleased either way, but we’ll see. It seems like the only “sure fire” advice is to bump up, but then you’re talking about going from a $990 “to my door” saw to a $1490 + (in my case) adding a 220v outlet to go with the G1023.

I’ll let you know how it goes!

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#14 posted 02-17-2017 04:34 PM

G0715P come prewired for 220, if you want 120 you need to get the conversion kit. NEMA -6 / 20A is what it comes with.

M

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#15 posted 02-17-2017 04:36 PM

Good point Madmark2.

I bought the kit as well but I’m glad you mentioned it cause it is an important point for anyone else looking at using that saw at 110.

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#16 posted 02-17-2017 04:54 PM

I purchased the G0715P and received it a couple of weeks ago, it was dead on accurate out of the box, only the fence needed minor adjustment. I tested the alignment with the blade at various heights and verified with a dial indicator that alignment did not change at all. I am very happy with my purchase.

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#17 posted 02-17-2017 05:07 PM


Why worry about how you position the miter slot with respect to the blade? Either design works. I have done both. It is a little harder to get them lined up with a table mount trunion. The thing is, you only do it once every 10 years or so. My first contractor style table saw lasted 20 years without having to be readjusted.

I have owned the G0715 now for about 6 months and I am still searching for the fatal design flaw that some people have reported. The only thing I had to do was adjust the fence a little to be parallel with the miter slot.

- ArtMann


Exactly the same here. Had my Bosch for 20 years before upgrading 6 mos ago. Love the saw. It was deadnuts square out of the box. The only adjustment was sliding the plastic marker window on the fence. I always make sure I push squarely on the base of the fence before locking it down.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#18 posted 02-17-2017 06:11 PM

Why worry about how you position the miter slot with respect to the blade? Either design works. I have done both. It is a little harder to get them lined up with a table mount trunion. The thing is, you only do it once every 10 years or so. My first contractor style table saw lasted 20 years without having to be readjusted.

I have owned the G0715 now for about 6 months and I am still searching for the fatal design flaw that some people have reported. The only thing I had to do was adjust the fence a little to be parallel with the miter slot.

- ArtMann

It just seems like if it was the pervasive, “saw ruining” problem some seem to claim that it wouldn t be such a highly praised model. I also can t tell as some folks say things are just a bit off and have to be set up, which seems normal, while some seem to be implying that it is a problem that can t be fixed.

Ultimately, if this was a 30lb item I could easily send back, I wouldn t be too concerned with trying. I just really want to avoid having to deal with returning any of these beasts.

I ll probably ultimately go with the G0715p and hope it works out. Too many other tools I still need to justify the jump up to the full cabinet saws.

- cochranjd

I took a chance on the G0715 because I found one for a little over half price on Craigslist that hadn’t even been completely unpacked. It was a military guy who was unexpectedly deployed elsewhere and it couldn’t go with him. I was planning on buying the G1023 but this saw has satisfied my needs.

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#19 posted 02-17-2017 10:08 PM

It’s my understanding that the only MAJOR difference between the 771 and the 715 is the fence. I’d hey the 771 and see if the fence suits you. Can’t image that it wouldn’t. I spent the extra $ on an Incra miter gauge. I found my 1 yr old 771 on CL for $450.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#20 posted 02-18-2017 04:34 PM

There are some pics of some of the mechanisms under the hood in the online manuals. Also some detail of the fences. Not a ton of info there, but are things I’d want to see if I was comparing these two saws. Here are few pics:

G0771Z:



G0715P:

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#21 posted 02-18-2017 04:39 PM


-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#22 posted 02-18-2017 04:56 PM

I purchased the G1023RLWX just because it has a router table in the cast iron wing. I didn’t think I could get that much saw for the money. My saw was in spec right out of the box. I purchased 2 new dial indicators and one of those milled flat plates to put on the arbor. Measured everything twice and it was right on. I love the saw and for the money no one else could come close to selling that much saw for the money. The fence is the weakest part of the whole deal but it is still a nice fence. I check it regularly because it did slip out of alignment once. I think that was due to my error though. Found this video on line and built this sacrificial fence and it works great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4eA_v4RY4&t=1s

Get the lift gate service and track the package diligently. Or the carrier and Grizzly will blow you off when the delivery goes badly. I have had good experiences with Grizzly deliveries and one bad experience. Grizzly will not do anything for you if things go bad with the delivery. I still will deal with Grizzly just track the freight daily.

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#23 posted 02-21-2017 04:14 PM

I ordered the G0715p yesterday. I should be receiving it by the end of the week. I will do a follow up on set up and my initial thoughts. I went with the 715 because of the heavier duty fence and the ability to mount an out feed table to the rail. The throat plate inset is deeper and will accommodate zero clearance inserts much easier. Lastly it is surprisingly a hair smaller than the 771z and the space i am putting it in is very calculated for space. All of those features will be for nothing if the table mounted trunnions give me high blood pressure.

Grizzly customer service - I had been on the phone with them 4 times leading up to this order since I was waiting for the G0771z to get in stock. I also have never ordered from them before and was gathering information on ordering. Since this is an item i have been saving cash for I wanted to take advantage of the pay with Amazon option since i already had some money on my amazon balance. During one of my phone calls i confirmed that i could use my balance to pay for the item during checkout. I ended up purchasing $1100 in Amazon gift cards to load onto my account.

I was going to order $200 of ad on items along with the table saw. I had my %5 coupon and was trying to checkout when i realized the only options were my credit cards that were loaded into my account. I spent 30 minutes communicating with Amazon and they told me i had to contact grizzly. Grizzly CS informed me that the customer service rep was wrong and that i couldn’t use my balance. I could however purchase one right on amazon for the same price without the 5% and it would be be shipped out the next day. I was a little frustrated since i had been planning this and getting the necessary information for weeks. I asked since they gave me the wrong information if i could at least get a credit (5% = $40) since i was going to be purchasing other items. They could have but didn’t go through the effort to help me out.

I was a manager in a retail environment once upon a time so i know a little how this stuff goes and understand that wrong info gets out there and theres nothing you can do about it. If they would have helped me out i would have bought the $200 of ad ons with them and probably a lot more in the future but 5% on a few items isnt worth the price that amazon can get me.

Hopefully my 715 wont be a lemon so that i dont have to work on the bargaining part grizzly again. All in all they are very friendly and helpful, unfortunately it doesn’t help me out much when they wont make it right with the customer whom they provided wrong information too.

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#24 posted 03-08-2017 04:04 PM

Have you received your saw? I am interested to hear how things are goung with it.

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#25 posted 03-08-2017 04:32 PM

Hey McGriff -

I still hope to do a full review soon, but yes – I received my G0715P and am so glad I went with it. It has been great so far and I actually had to work with the fence more than anything else. My blade was pretty well aligned out of the box.

The thing is a beast – I picked it up from the depot and getting it out of my truck and set up by myself was quite the battle. For somebody like me that is new to freight items, one of the biggest hurdles was actually realizing it was bolted to the pallett. My bandsaw wasn’t, but obviously it wasn’t nearly as tall in the box. Once I got past that it was smooth sailing.

I’ve used it for a few things, but honestly it has led to some other activities in my garage that I’m still working through (installing a 240v circuit, getting a dust collector and setting it up, etc.) so I haven’t had any major projects.

I’ll report back when I have more actual usage under my belt but so far it’s done what I’ve asked. It’s a HUGE upgrade over my old portable dewalt dwe7480, but I don’t think anyone would have expected anything else :)

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#26 posted 03-16-2017 03:09 PM

Just to give a quick update. I received my table saw just about two weeks ago. I live in iowa and due to weather and work i have not had the time to dedicate to getting it completely set up. As stated in the earlier post the ordering process was a little frustrating. However that is partly due to my form of payment. Had i used a credit card I think it would have been seamless. I had the saw delivered to my place of work where they have access to a fork lift.

I had a shop fox mobile base set up for the ts and what I didn’t realize is how low the table saw is. I am 6’10” so I like to adjust all my benches and tools to accommodate that. I ended up building a base to put on the mobile base and wrap around the bottom of the TS. It took me about an hour or hour and a half to get the wings and rail system on. I had to put a piece of tape on the end caps of the wings to get them parallel with the center. Now sure how exact all of that needs to be but I think I was accurate enough.

I tempararely cleaned off the top with mineral spirits and put some rust protection spray that I use for my guns on the top. When I have time I will probably have to use the mineral spirits again and put on a few coats of johnsons paste wax. Im still looking into that since I live in humid iowa and my shop is not climate controlled.

I did some initial measurements and it looks like the blade and the fence will need to be adjusted. Hopefully I can figure out the blade alignment fairly quickly so I can start using it.

I installed a 220 outlet and am in the process of rewiring a new power cord. The one that comes with the saw is only 6’ so if you dont have a hookup right by your saw I would suggest getting a 12/3 extension cord and cutting the ends off and putting whichever plug you are going to be using on it. I went with a 25’ Flexzilla that I will cut down to 15-20’.

I will update you when I get my saw up and running.

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#27 posted 03-16-2017 05:03 PM

Good to hear you have your saw. I look forward to reading your updates. Im delaying my purchase as I have decided to listen to my contractor friend and run a new line and sub panel to my garage. I hope dialing in your saw goes smoothly.

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#28 posted 04-04-2017 03:21 PM

So i spent some time over the weekend aligning my table saw. Being a novice and a little intimidated I think it took me much longer than someone who has more experience. For some reason the fence parallelism was challenging. I think i was reading into the booklet too much. Once I figured out how it worked it was a piece of cake. I would suggest putting the rails maybe an 1/8 lover than the bottom of the miter slots. At the lowest setting on the fence (before its metal on metal) there is more than a 1/16 gap and I might have to use a sacrificial fence if I cut something very thin.

??? How picky should I be when making my blade parallel to miter slots. From the factory there is maybe 1/32 difference from the front to the back of the blade. It was just enough that my square caught on the thin kerf of the blade (however i have not used a dial indicator to measure exactly. I decided not to touch it since the idea of adjusting the trunnions scare me. Please let me know your thoughts.

Lastly I need to contact Grizzly to have them walk me through the riving knife L bracket. The L bracket is very easy to adjust but for some reason even when i shift it all the way to one side it is out of alignment with the blade and stick out enough that my work piece would get caught on it.

I have planned for some time in my work schedule to really dive into this project more and hope to hear from all of you on some of the questions I had.

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#29 posted 04-06-2017 03:20 PM


This shows the gap from the back to the front of the blade.


Here is the gap as a result of the riving knife.

Any direction would be appreciated.

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#30 posted 04-25-2017 05:31 PM

I purchased a G0771z in January and have had some issues with the fence. The set screws that determine the ride height of the fence were too long making them sit proud of the table surface. The screws for the viewfinder on the scale have the same issue. The viewfinder itself has no magnification and sits high enough above the scale that slight variances left to right of my eyes position cause inaccuracy. Lastly, they do not seem to make a zero clearance throat plate. To me this is a huge problem. I just can’t fathom designing a saw without the ability to accommodate such a basic necessity. All that said they are sending me replacement screws for the fence and tell me there is a v2.0 already selling with the saw. We’ll see if it all plays out.

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#31 posted 04-25-2017 06:58 PM

The Grizzly G0771 uses the same zero clearance insert as the Rigid R4512 with the riving knife.

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#32 posted 04-25-2017 07:32 PM

??? How picky should I be when making my blade parallel to miter slots. From the factory there is maybe 1/32 difference from the front to the back of the blade. It was just enough that my square caught on the thin kerf of the blade (however i have not used a dial indicator to measure exactly. I decided not to touch it since the idea of adjusting the trunnions scare me. Please let me know your thoughts.

- apehl


1/32” is enough to grant the realignment. You should strive to get it under 0.003”. However unless your saw has infamous trunnion issue it is extremely easy and fast to adjust. In fact it is easier than aligning cabinet mounted trunnions.
1. Attach your dial indicator to the miter gauge.
2. Slide it to the back and set it to 0.
3. Slide it forward and rotate the blade so the the dial indicator touches the same tooth.
4. Loose the trunnion mounting screws.
5. Lightly tap on the trunnion using a hammer and a wood stick till your dial indicator returns to zero.
6. Tighten the trunnion screws watching the dial indicator to make sure the adjustment does not float while you are tightening the screws.

That’s it.

The riving knife on this saw however is a bear to adjust properly. The designer of this part was apparently in a hurry or drunk.

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#33 posted 04-26-2017 04:48 PM

I just sold my dewalt dw745 and am asking myself the same question. I want to get either the delta that lowes sells, the g0771z or the g0715. I actually prefer the lighter weight of the g0771z because I’m in the military and move every 3 years or so, so if the weight savings is from the fence, cabinet and handles like grizzly claims I prefer it for that reason. I’m also not a fan of the no ZCI for the 771. I am also ready to buy now and Grizzly told me they are out of stock until June 12th. I might just try to watch craigslist until June and maybe I’ll get lucky there.

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#34 posted 04-26-2017 06:16 PM


.... I want to get either the delta that lowes sells, the g0771z or the g0715. I actually prefer the lighter weight of the g0771z because I m in the military and move every 3 years or so, so if the weight savings is from the fence, cabinet and handles like grizzly claims I prefer it for that reason. I m also not a fan of the no ZCI for the 771....

- TheLorax

One of those concerns might be solvable…

The Grizzly G0771 uses the same zero clearance insert as the Rigid R4512 with the riving knife.

- jmartel


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#35 posted 04-27-2017 02:22 PM

Looks like the G0771z is back “on sale” for $750 or ~$900 with liftgate delivery?

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#36 posted 04-27-2017 06:03 PM


One of those concerns might be solvable…

The Grizzly G0771 uses the same zero clearance insert as the Rigid R4512 with the riving knife.

- jmartel

- knotscott

True, I saw that. I’m kind of annoyed that it’s out of stock and the more I think about the shipping cost the more I’m leaning towards just going to lowes or home depot and buying a contractor saw.

There is an old craftsman unisaw near me for 700 that looks to be in good shape and could maybe be had for $500 but it doesn’t have a splitter. I’m not sure how I feel about that.

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#37 posted 04-28-2017 12:51 PM

This has me re-thinking the G0771z.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/9258

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#38 posted 04-28-2017 04:44 PM

It could be a lemon and Grizzly is very good at addressing such thing.
However the general rule is you get what you pay for.
One may lack out and get a good used deal. However it is a big toss and one can end up wasting too much time and gas chasing that elusive deal. After a few attempts I decided not to mess with craigslist sellers in order not to lose my faith in humanity.

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#39 posted 04-28-2017 04:56 PM

There is an old craftsman unisaw near me for 700 that looks to be in good shape and could maybe be had for $500 but it doesn’t have a splitter. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
-TheLorax

I would love to see a picture of that Craftsman Unisaw!!!

And just to be clear, pretty much any saw made in the last 50 years or more came from the factory with a splitter. It may not be on a particular machine now, having been removed and lost by a PO over the years though. In the case of the Unisaw, there are a lot of options available – the OEM splitter/guard assembly, the OEM disappearing splitter that appeared with the Uniguard, various aftermarket splitters and the BORK just to name a few.

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#40 posted 04-28-2017 05:11 PM



This has me re-thinking the G0771z.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/9258

- Rob_s

My G0771 (non-z model) was perfect out of the box.

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#41 posted 04-28-2017 05:22 PM


This has me re-thinking the G0771z.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/9258

- Rob_s

That’s likely just growing pains of introducing a new model, or variation of a model. If you read to the end, they’ve acknowledged the known issues, corrected them at the warehouse, and sent replacements to those who purchased saws from the early run.

Many saws experience infancy issues, especially those closer to the entry level price points….ie: the venerable Ridgid TS3650 had some early motor fan and arbor issues, but went on to become a very popular saw. R4512, 21833, G0715P, some of the Steel City contractor saws had growing pains early on. It’s not so different than buying a first year car….they usually work out the bugs in time.

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#42 posted 04-28-2017 05:26 PM

This has me re-thinking the G0771z.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/9258

- Rob_s

That s just growing pains of introducing a new model. If you read to the end, they ve acknowledged the known issues, corrected them at the warehouse, and sent replacements to those who purchased saws from the early run.

- knotscott

sure, that’s one interpretation. But even if true, probably doesn’t pay to be an early adopter, and it seems like we are still in early-adopter, customer-as-beta-tester phase. I want someone else to feel the pain, not me. Preferably the manufacturer.

It’s unfortunate that there doesn’t seem to be a <$1k plug-n-play option in new tablesaws. hell, even at <$2k.

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#43 posted 04-28-2017 05:32 PM


sure, that s one interpretation. But even if true, probably doesn t pay to be an early adopter, and it seems like we are still in early-adopter, customer-as-beta-tester phase. I want someone else to feel the pain, not me. Preferably the manufacturer.

It s unfortunate that there doesn t seem to be a <$1k plug-n-play option in new tablesaws. hell, even at <$2k.

- Rob_s

And you taking a one off issue as gospel for the entire line of saws is another interpretation. My 771 was very much plug and play and under $700. Even the 45 deg and 90 deg stops were dead on.

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#44 posted 04-28-2017 06:16 PM


sure, that s one interpretation. But even if true, probably doesn t pay to be an early adopter, and it seems like we are still in early-adopter, customer-as-beta-tester phase. I want someone else to feel the pain, not me. Preferably the manufacturer.

It s unfortunate that there doesn t seem to be a <$1k plug-n-play option in new tablesaws. hell, even at <$2k.

- Rob_s

And you taking a one off issue as gospel for the entire line of saws is another interpretation. My 771 was very much plug and play and under $700. Even the 45 deg and 90 deg stops were dead on.

- jmartel

There’s more than one person posting in that thread, and more than one report to be found online.

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#45 posted 04-28-2017 06:24 PM



True, I saw that. I m kind of annoyed that it s out of stock and the more I think about the shipping cost the more I m leaning towards just going to lowes or home depot and buying a contractor saw.

- TheLorax

I’m kinda in the same boat. The G0771z won’t be back in stock until June 12th. I called Grizzly customer service and asked if there was anyway they could price match the G0715p to theG0771z (considering the off sale prices are now both listed at $895), explaining that I needed to pick it up sooner than later, and I’d rather give my money to them than Home Depot. She told me she’d love to, but there was no way of even doing it in her computer, that the program had no function or ability to adjust pricing. This is something some in PR thought up so they don’t have to come out and say, we won’t work with you on price. Maybe no her, but clearly someone can do a price override. I’m not complaining about their customer service, I’ve called tons recently with lots of dumb questions and they are always super helpful and I never wait more than a minute or two. I even called tech support for historic pricing on a 1023 from 2001, telling him I was looking at a used one, and was curious about what it sold for new. He pulled up his database of old catalogs and gave me the price, and chatted for a while about the saw. Never even tried to sell me on a new one.

I’d rather buy from them, but waiting 4 more weeks sounds like a bummer.

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#46 posted 04-28-2017 06:26 PM

This has me re-thinking the G0771z.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/9258

- Robs

That s just growing pains of introducing a new model. If you read to the end, they ve acknowledged the known issues, corrected them at the warehouse, and sent replacements to those who purchased saws from the early run.

- knotscott

It s unfortunate that there doesn t seem to be a <$1k plug-n-play option in new tablesaws. hell, even at <$2k.

- Robs

I think the G1023RL and G0690 are pretty well proven. There are a lot of them out there, and they’ve been out for more than 5 years. The Jet Proshop is also pretty well proven. PM64B?

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#47 posted 04-28-2017 06:46 PM


There s more than one person posting in that thread, and more than one report to be found online.

You have a G0771z? How long have you had it and how much have you used it?

- Rob_s

I have the G0771. Same saw, worse fence. Bought it in 2015 under 6 months after it came out. Used it quite a bit. Built an entertainment center, murphy bed, night stands, (all 3 are in my projects here) and lots of other projects for other people and my shop like shop cabinets and a miter saw stand that aren’t posted.

Adjusting the alignment is easy and straightforward. I’ve done that twice now after taking the saw apart to move.

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#48 posted 04-28-2017 07:19 PM

i’ve had the g0771z since early January and after the initial issues relating to fence(bent t-rails) and few superficial hassles, it has been a pretty decent saw. accuracy is fine…it’s nice to know that my fifth cut will be same as my first.

as mentioned leecraft makes an insert, model #RG-5. simple to make as well…

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#49 posted 04-28-2017 07:20 PM

What I’m getting at is that maybe the buyer-as-beta-tester phase isn’t over yet. Most of the reported issues also appear to be with the new fence, for the most part.

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#50 posted 04-28-2017 07:59 PM

That sounds more like shipping damage. There’s nothing wrong with the saw itself. Buy it or not, I don’t care. But it’s a solid saw for a good price.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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