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Help with desiging costume closet for my daughter

by vince805
posted 02-08-2017 09:47 PM


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jerryminer

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#1 posted 02-08-2017 10:34 PM

Vince—

That yellow piece in the back will provide racking resistance. If your joints are nice and tight, and that yellow piece is 6-8 inches tall and securely fastened, you will probably be OK. Another cleat up under the top shelf would certainly help keep everything stiff, though. I would do it, IIWM.

-- Jerry, making sawdust professionally since 1976

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#2 posted 02-08-2017 10:46 PM

First off Welcome to LumberJocks!

So many things to think about with a new project.

For the joints on this project, it will depend on 3 things
1. How you are going to join the (2) horizontal piece to the (3) vertical pieces,
2. What material you plan on using. You mentioned wood boards so I am guessing you are going to get something like a 1” x 12” pine board instead of plywood?
3. What woodworking tools you have

If you are using a table saw (or Router), and are planning on cutting Dado’s for the middle support, and a Rabbet for the sides, you shouldn’t need any additional reinforcement (unless you plan on loading over 100 lbs on the top.) Since you don’t show a raised base at the bottom of your drawing, it will never sag :)

If you are going to join the material with a butt joint, and not cut slots, then adding a brace at each spot will definitely help to stiffen up the structure along with keeping the unit square. You probably know to glue the joints along with screws or nails.

1/2” plywood (actually 23/32”) will span the largest opening for the top shelf (and the bottom) easily and not sag. If you are going to use a particle board or MDF and are going to use a butt joint, you might want an additional brace horizontal brace at the locations you circled, just to be safe. It all depends on your choice for material, and the tools you are using. Actual wood like Lowes 1x pine boards wouldn’t need added braces, but it all depends on how you are cutting and joining the material.

If you are going to butt the joints you might also consider putting a piece of 1/8” plywood or what is sometimes called underlayment board on for a back (it is a 7/32” product). This stiffens up the whole structure, and a 4×8 sheet at Lowes is only $12. I’m not sure if they sell it in a 48” x 48” piece in their precut area of the store, but it could save you a couple dollars.

One last thing to think about is how deep this unit will be. If you are going to use 12” wide pine boards you probably wont be able to put a back on it, as that would only leave around 6” from the clothes rod to the back of the cabinet. That will probably only fit the doll clothes, not the daughter’s costumes, they just wont hang right. I would suggest maybe using plywood and making it 18” deep, and then offset the clothes rod to the front so its not right in the center. No doors so the clothes would hang better.

Good luck and post pictures of the build in the Blog section if you can! There is nothing LJ’s seem to love more than photos of the steps of a project :)

-- Jeff ~ Tacoma Wa.

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vince805

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#3 posted 02-08-2017 11:01 PM



Vince—

That yellow piece in the back will provide racking resistance. If your joints are nice and tight, and that yellow piece is 6-8 inches tall and securely fastened, you will probably be OK. Another cleat up under the top shelf would certainly help keep everything stiff, though. I would do it, IIWM.

- jerryminer

Thanks, the yellow piece will be about 6” tall I think. Also I had to google it but I learned when IIWM means :)


First off Welcome to LumberJocks!

So many things to think about with a new project.

For the joints on this project, it will depend on 3 things
1. How you are going to join the (2) horizontal piece to the (3) vertical pieces,
2. What material you plan on using. You mentioned wood boards so I am guessing you are going to get something like a 1” x 12” pine board instead of plywood?
3. What woodworking tools you have

...

Good luck and post pictures of the build in the Blog section if you can! There is nothing LJ s seem to love more than photos of the steps of a project :)

- magaoitin

Thanks for the detailed post! I have a table saw, router, biscuit joiner, dado blade set and kreg jig, so I have those to choose from do the joints. And yes, I was thinking to use 1”x12” board rather than plywood but I think you may be right that I may need to go deeper. It looks like lowes has 1×16 and 1×20 pine boards so I may opt for those instead. Or maybe I need to go to a local woodshop and get something better quality. I wasn’t planning on a back, just open the way it is pictured.

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JBrow

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#4 posted 02-09-2017 02:15 AM

vince805,

A couple of additional thoughts…

Depending on the width of the base and the weight eventually carried by the top shelve, the unit may be tippy. For example, if books rest on the top shelf and your daughter retrieves a costume but she fails to ensure the hanger is free from the hanging bar, she could pull the unit onto herself. If a second rail is also located at near the top of the unit at the back, this rail could be attached to the wall with a single screw and keep the costume rack from tipping over.

Adding four legs tall enough to position the bottom shelf off the floor could help the unit set well on the floor without any wobble due to an uneven floor. Raising the shelf up off the floor and adding cutouts at the bottom of the sides could achieve the same result; a steadier unit.

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LittleShaver

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#5 posted 02-09-2017 01:59 PM

You might consider adding a board across the top shelf. One, it will help prevent things from falling off the back of the shelf if it protrudes a little above the shelf. Two, it will provide a means to attach it to a wall. Recall Ikea and their issues with furniture falling on kids.

-- Sawdust Maker

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