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Your thoughts on a new (cheap) sliding miter saw

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posted 02-07-2017 12:32 AM


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#1 posted 02-07-2017 12:33 AM

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#2 posted 02-07-2017 12:59 AM

I looked at them in person last year and thought they were too rickety, too sloppy when you grab and wiggle them. A 12” non slider will do what you want and take up less space. Just a thought.

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#3 posted 02-07-2017 01:30 AM

I’ve had hands on the HF saw just to see what you’re getting for your money, while the specs of the saw are impressive the execution and quality overall just aren’t there. I’ll second what Rick stated, a 12” non-sliding saw would be the way to go based on what’s bugging you with your current saw. They’re cheaper and have fewer moving parts to wear than a slider and much lighter if you find yourself needing to move it around.

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#4 posted 02-07-2017 01:40 AM

My son has the Hitachi and it is terrific; I am sure it was very spendy though. I know he has had it form many years too.

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#5 posted 02-07-2017 03:59 AM

Hitachi sliders are good saws. They are less than there competitors. Look up the reviews.

-- mrg

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#6 posted 02-07-2017 02:52 PM

I had the HF one years ago. Slide is rough and everything is WAY too sloppy to give any kind of precision at all. I bought it to redo the trim in a house. Before all was said and done, the HF saw was in the shed and I had learned to cope all my trim.

I have a Hitachi 10” non-slider now. It’s a great saw. I’d lean towards a 12” non-slider if you’re looking to stay in the lower price range. A cheap slider will be nothing but a headache.

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#7 posted 02-07-2017 03:26 PM

I have the sears compact sliding miter saw. Only thing I don’t like is the hold down, but size, performance and dust collection are very good. It slides forward on rails instead of back so it takes up less space and can be put against a wall.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-cm-10-in-compact-slide-miter-saw/p-00940753000P

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#8 posted 02-07-2017 03:48 PM

I was in this boat last year. After looking up reviews and putting my hands on some of the cheaper sliders I ended up with the 12” hitachi, I bought a refurbished unit from cpo for about 300, shipped.

Mt thought was I could buy a cheaper saw and be frustrated and buy a better saw, or just save the money, time, and frustration and buy a good saw from the start.

If you are not in any hurry save up the $$$ and get the hitachi or ridgid. CPO does take PayPal, so you could stretch the cost out over 6 months.

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#9 posted 02-07-2017 03:56 PM

My son has the 10” Harbor Freight slider and his usage is more carpentry than woodworking. For his usage it works just fine as he rarely needs precise cuts. Him and I recently used it when we installed 1000 square feet of laminated flooring and never had an issue with it. I would suggest installing a good quality blade on it which we did. If you’re looking for a slider that will provide you with consistent high quality results then I suggest you remove the word “cheap” from your search.

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#10 posted 02-07-2017 08:56 PM

Miter saws and sliding miter saws were intended for carpentry, not fine woodworking. These saws found their way into woodworking jobs due to their small size. Previously a contractor had to manhandle a large RAS to the work site, set it up and re-align it before use. Carpentry doesn’t require the precision that can be attained in a shop environment. Even trim work doesn’t require precision measured in thousands of an inch. Any miter saw can do the job as long as high precision is not needed. Expensive sliding, compound miter saws can approach the precision needed that previously required big expensive shop machines, but for general run-of-the-mill woodworking, the miter saw (any variety) can do the job well.

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#11 posted 02-07-2017 10:09 PM

I would just avoid Sears for the fact that they are closing locations and I wouldn’t feel confident that they will be around much longer.

The Kobalt sliders at Lowes are decent quality and not a lot of money. The small one that takes a 7 1/4 inch blade would be on my list as it is easy to move around.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-7-1-4-in-9-Amp-Bevel-Sliding-Laser-Compound-Miter-Saw/3512783

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#12 posted 02-07-2017 10:15 PM



I would just avoid Sears for the fact that they are closing locations and I wouldn t feel confident that they will be around much longer.

The Kobalt sliders at Lowes are decent quality and not a lot of money. The small one that takes a 7 1/4 inch blade would be on my list as it is easy to move around.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-7-1-4-in-9-Amp-Bevel-Sliding-Laser-Compound-Miter-Saw/3512783

- dhazelton

I really liked this one when I looked at the display in the store. However, they were out of stock, so I bought the 10” slider for $199 instead. I really really like it. The manager took off 10% because they were out of stock on the one I wanted.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-10-in-15-Amp-Single-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Laser-Miter-Saw/3512785

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#13 posted 02-07-2017 10:18 PM

I have been using the HF 10” sliders for about 18 years now. My first one was left out in a shed that the roof leaked on by my Son, that was in 2011. I bought a new one then and told him to keep that one. Once you set it up correctly they stay set. I got mine for $59 with a coupon and if I need another some day I will buy another HF.

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#14 posted 02-07-2017 10:56 PM

Also look at the price of blades before you decide – 12 inch blades are pricy.

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#15 posted 02-08-2017 12:34 AM

I personally like the idea of a slider I don’t want a 12inch cause I can’t have hardly find blades without a 45min drive. I’m leaning toward the red one over the HF one although if I could get it for $60 I did buy it My work is fine within a sixteenth of an inch Also it might get used once a week on average for a few small cut. I do some contractor style work for myself tho so it’s used more then I’d rather buy a cheap one An put money into a planer or jointer or lathe

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#16 posted 02-08-2017 09:36 PM

I wrote a review on LJ’s of my purchase of the Ironton 10” slider sold by Northern tools. It fits in my miter saw station sitting on a 26” wide bench. It has a cross cut 13 7/16” wide and is double bevel. New, it sells for $250. I found mine in a pawn shop for $150 and it looked like new. It is hard to find any reviews on it but I got it to .001 of square using the 5 cut method.

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#17 posted 02-09-2017 05:35 PM

I’ve got a DeWalt SLiding miter saw and like it, but it is way our of your price range. If this is going to be a tool that you use in your shop, and you aren’t lugging it around to job sites, why don’t you consider a 1950’s era DeWalt Radial Arm Saw. I’ve got 3 and love them! You can usually find them for under $150, and many times under $100. A little clean up, a new table, and perhaps some new bearings and they are good as new. More capable that a sliding miter saw for sure. Just make sure you have the correct blade!!!! Using the wrong blade is the reason most people don’t like them.

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#18 posted 02-09-2017 06:17 PM

Old Coach- I read you review. sounds like you got a nice saw for a real good deal but for a tool that I am going to be using sporadically I really don’t want to spend the $250 on it while there are still other tools that I need. There is a nice ridgid slider at a paw shop a little of an hour away for 250 that I have thought about offering 200 on
Dgapilot- I considered a RAS due to how cheap and plentiful they are around me but they just take up SO much space plus Id like to be able to easily move it from my building to my house or another construction site if needed

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#19 posted 02-09-2017 06:46 PM

I have a 10” non-sliding Hitachi, and it is dead on accurate, and has worked well for years. Cost now is $115 at most big box stores.

There are also a lot of 12” saws from around $200 on Amazon.com. Sliding 10” Ryobi, Fixed, dual bevel Makita’s, and some sliding 7 1/4” saws that should cut larger than a 6” wide board, and the blades are a fraction of the cost.

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#20 posted 02-10-2017 12:48 AM

I started with a 12 inch non-slider, and it didn’t take long until I wanted a slider. Get the slider. I have a Ridgid, and since my recent adjustments, it cuts great. 90 degrees is dead on. If you decide to go with HF, I will suggest that you’ll be happier if you put a good blade on it as soon as you have the cash.

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#21 posted 02-10-2017 01:25 AM

I’ve about talked myself out of the harbor freight one. I just hav issues trusting harbor freight with anything that has a motor. I’m seriously looking at the General international Sears sells it An will ship right to the house I’m also looking into a tool shop brand one from Menards that’s around the same price. Both slinding 10inch saws

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#22 posted 02-10-2017 01:53 PM

Have had 10” HF slider since started with this hobby(about 7 yrs). No problems, with good blade. Haven”t seen need to upgrade. Use several days a week.

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#23 posted 02-10-2017 07:25 PM

Another vote for Hitachi—i have both a 10 inch and a 12 inch compound sliders. Both with lasers. Excellent saws. Look at bigskytools.com and pick up a factory refurb very reasonably.

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