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A good 8" jointer?

by Don Stephenson
posted 01-27-2017 11:00 PM


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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 01-28-2017 12:21 AM

Getting the 8” capacity is a huge upgrade. I have found good workarounds with an 8” jointer and 13” planer, so that I can accurately mill 12” wide boards.

I have the Delta DJ-20, which is a dead ringer for the Grizzly 490. It is a great tool, but a step up in price from the model you linked. I’m sure that one will work fine.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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endgrainy

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#2 posted 01-28-2017 01:07 AM

I have the Grizzly G0490, similar to what you posted above but with parallelogram beds (theoretically easier adjustment.)

It’s been super solid (once I got it set up) and I upgraded to a Byrd Shelix head last year. Love the spiral cutter head, but if you’re price conscious, the stock jointer worked fine before upgrade. Part of the reason I installed the spiral head is that the straight knives were dull and I didn’t feel like figuring out how to set them :)

Grizzly is easy to work with and the shipping with lift gate service was easy. Parts are smoothly sourced on their website – I damaged a capacitor during my cutter head install and had to order a new one. Quick and easy.

Cons – Dust collection is ok. Grizzly fit and finish is ok. Tables were fine but sticker on cabinet is peeling (no effect on performance.)

Jointers are not very complicated machines, so I feel the price advantage of Grizzly makes these models a reasonable choice.

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bonesbr549

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#3 posted 01-28-2017 01:12 AM

They make good jointers. I have the 12” parallogram version of that jointer and its 10 years old working fine.

I also have the 17” BS and had the 1023 TS. All were fine tools. I think you will be fine with that brand.

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Don Stephenson

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#4 posted 01-28-2017 02:18 AM

Love what I’m hearing…think I’ll go ahead and pull the trigger on the grizzly. Thanks a ton!

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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#5 posted 01-28-2017 02:30 AM

if you can do the byrd head i strongly recommend .i am no longer stuck with dull blades just when i really just want to proceed with my project and not get into changing the blades .changing blades could be said to be easy but for me it was just a hassle that wasn’t always a perfect set-up for what ever reason . has been a few years and yet to change a head . carbide handles paint also .

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AHuxley

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#6 posted 01-28-2017 02:47 AM



Love what I m hearing…think I ll go ahead and pull the trigger on the grizzly. Thanks a ton!

- Don Stephenson

Good luck, they have almost no 8” jointers in stock.

I am not a fan of Grizzly machines but a lot are and if the budget is for Grizzly then there aren’t any other options except other brands owned by the same person.

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Don Stephenson

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#7 posted 01-28-2017 03:00 AM

I’ve heard very good things about the Byrd head…and very bad things about changing straight knives. At $300-$400, I suppose there’s value considering how much longer they last…

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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Don Stephenson

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#8 posted 01-28-2017 03:02 AM

Good luck, they have almost no 8” jointers in stock.

I am not a fan of Grizzly machines but a lot are and if the budget is for Grizzly then there aren t any other options except other brands owned by the same person.

- AHuxley

I know, very surprising to see how extremely out-of-stock they are! I phoned them today, and they said they expect to have more of that model in stock by the end of February… sheesh…

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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Kelly

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#9 posted 01-28-2017 05:28 AM

I’m another 490 owner. I bought the spiral head GO490 last year and am glad I went with it, rather than the Powermatic knife version. My review of it is here: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6106

Since buying it, I’ve planed a lot of figured oak, sycamore and walnut. From that and regarding it, I remain a happy camper.

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a1Jim

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#10 posted 01-28-2017 02:31 PM

I’ve been very happy with all of my Grizzly products including my 12” jointer.

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/product/1113

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jmos

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#11 posted 01-28-2017 09:36 PM

I recently bought a G0490XW, while I had a nightmare of a time getting it up and running, now that it is it’s been great. With a jointer I just couldn’t justify paying almost twice as much for another brand.

Review

-- John

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RogR

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#12 posted 01-29-2017 02:39 AM

Yet another 490 owner. The only quibble is the fence, which is a bit fiddly to set and should be checked regularly. The straight knives aren’t so difficult to set, and (aside from the fence) the machine has never put a foot wrong in about 8 years. It arrived with a flat deck and had never required adjustment.

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TheFridge

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#13 posted 01-29-2017 02:48 AM

I bought a shelix head for my 8” and its awesome.

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Matt

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#14 posted 01-29-2017 04:09 AM

I have the 0452 (i think – it’s the 6” Grizzly) and I wish I had gone with the byrd head to start. I did upgrade to it later (pretty easy upgrade) and love it. I’ve been very happy with my grizzly products (I also have the 10” low speed wet sharpening system) and recommend their products. The other comments are consistent with my experience, and if you have the space, get the 8”.

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Don Stephenson

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#15 posted 01-29-2017 06:12 AM

Got to admit, this is an awesome group. Thanks for all the great feedback!

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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HorizontalMike

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#16 posted 01-29-2017 01:46 PM

Don,
If you can, splurge for the spiral head cutter model. I have the old discontinued G0593 8in. w/spiral cutter and just love it!

One thing to point out is that IF you ever get into a nail while jointing with a spiral head cutter, you will only mess up a few of the 40 carbide cutters, and not have to replace an entire set. That is unlike having to replace all knife blades on the base model. Just a thought…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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DrDirt

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#17 posted 01-30-2017 10:54 PM

get the helical head… don’t even consider straight knives.

Straight knives for a new purchase, is like finding a great deal on a set of Bias Ply tires for your car. They work, but the new design is SOOOO much better.

Grizzly makes a great jointer…. I have heard they are hard to get right now? Maybe some production delay, but last week folks were talking about nobody having Grizzly 8” jointers in stock

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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josephf

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#18 posted 01-30-2017 11:14 PM


get the helical head… don t even consider straight knives.

Straight knives for a new purchase, is like finding a great deal on a set of Bias Ply tires for your car. They work, but the new design is SOOOO much better.

Grizzly makes a great jointer…. I have heard they are hard to get right now? Maybe some production delay, but last week folks were talking about nobody having Grizzly 8” jointers in stock
well said !
- DrDirt


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Don Stephenson

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#19 posted 01-31-2017 07:16 PM

One last thought… how is it that so many woodworkers are able to get by with 6” or 8” jointers? Does everyone just forego jointing when a project calls for 10” or 12” boards (such as a large table top)? Do they opt to do hand jointing? I’m just curious because since I learned how essential a jointer is to making your material square, the idea of a 6” just puzzles me.

Thanks again all.

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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pintodeluxe

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#20 posted 01-31-2017 07:25 PM

There is a way to accurately mill 12” wide boards with an 8” jointer and 12-13” planer. You won’t see it in the magazines because you have to remove the guard on your jointer, but it does work.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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josephf

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#21 posted 01-31-2017 07:55 PM

i have a thought on the 8” or 12” . I went an 8” . mostly i needed the length of the bed for long stock over the 6” . now the issue with the 12” ,not only is the cost ,also generally they a 3ph ,i do not have or want to get into 3 ph .but the biggie was space it takes up ,shop space is extremely valuable . my shop is 22×50 which is bigger then alot out there but never big enough .wouldn’t a 12” be nice though . I am also not so much a wood worker by trade but a carpenter . though i have built 4-5 tables , they did not require a 12” jointer . Interesting what jobs have come my way .
anyhow in the end I decided on an 8” due to the space the 12” would need . I picked up a made in canada general for 400$ ,then added the hellical head for another 400 i think .gotoff cheap .
12” though would be nice . since adding the head i use the jointer a lot more .not having to deal with dull blades or concerned about dulling them is rather nice .i use alot of used wood .
if i had more space i would add in a dedicated dado head /molding head tablesaw .
So for me it has been space .

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HorizontalMike

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#22 posted 01-31-2017 10:02 PM



There is a way to accurately mill 12” wide boards with an 8” jointer and 12-13” planer. You won t see it in the magazines because you have to remove the guard on your jointer, but it does work.
- pintodeluxe

BINGO! I do EXACTLY THAT!
And yup, I only have a lowly 8in. jointer… Oh wo is me… oh wo is…

NOT!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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DrDirt

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#23 posted 01-31-2017 10:05 PM

Find there are not so many boards wider than 8 inches… but when needed, a sled works great in the planer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UONmuQt_98

I get by with a 6 inch jointer, and a 15HH planer.

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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teejk02

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#24 posted 02-02-2017 01:23 AM



Find there are not so many boards wider than 8 inches… but when needed, a sled works great in the planer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UONmuQt_98

I get by with a 6 inch jointer, and a 15HH planer.

- DrDirt

Agree with your observation about board width…and will add that even when I can find them wider than 8 inches I get “nervous” using them. True “old growth” lumber might have worked for wide boards but I haven’t had much luck with wide boards.

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Don Stephenson

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#25 posted 02-02-2017 07:39 PM

Thanks for confirming what I had originally thought: 8” will do me just fine!

-- Don Stephenson, Ohio, https://www.facebook.com/realdealwoodwork/

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