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WOODWORKING CLASSES WHAT SUBJECT WOULD YOU ATTEND OR TEACH

by a1Jim
posted 01-26-2017 03:11 PM


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#1 posted 01-26-2017 03:28 PM

Two classes. Basic AND advanced finishing. Big emphasis on wood prep before finishing.
Too many folks spend a bunch of time building, then slap a coat of polyurinethane on top of an otherwise good project.
Bill

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#2 posted 01-26-2017 03:29 PM

Im with Bill, i have never failed to fill a finishing class

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#3 posted 01-26-2017 03:31 PM

I agree with the above. Having not taken any woodworking classes, I would sign up for a surface prep/finishing class in a heartbeat!

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#4 posted 01-26-2017 03:40 PM

Thanks Bill A lot of what I cover in my College classes covers basics since the class coverers a broad base of individuals with different amounts of woodworking experience.
Thanks Charles I’m no finishing expert but know a lot more since I’ve been in touch with you and have taken your online finishing class.
Thanks Dustin those are good ideas for classes.

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000

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#5 posted 01-26-2017 04:18 PM

I know this is probably in a different area than the question you are asking, and it
has more to do with cabinet making than traditional wood working.

One thing that I never have seen taught is how to install a project.
Whether it’s a bar, wall unit, kitchens, etc. etc..
Installing a project is as important as making the project. You can build a perfect job and if it’s not installed properly it will look like crap.

The only way I have seen to learn the proper techniques for installing has been on the job training.

Over the years I have been challenged on how to mount a project to a space that has uneven walls, out of square niches, no studs to mount to, and the list of variables goes on.
Learning how to build a project to allow and make provisions for the above mentioned variables, and also what to do when faced with them, would be a class that could be valuable to many.

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#6 posted 01-26-2017 04:32 PM

People in my area are all interested in finishing.
They see the finished product and thats what they want to learn how to do.
What MOST of them dont realize is the prep work ahead of time before that “finish makes it look good”
I always make the comment ” The difference between a cabinet maker and a carpenter is the joinery”
A carpenter will use a regular 2×4.(1 1/2×3 1/2) A cabinet maker will size that same piece of lumber to 1 1/4” x 3”. The vissual difference separates the carpenter from the cabinet maker ! I am a cabinet maker…...I do not think I am BETTER than a carpenter !
I guess we are also fortunate enough we do have the “TOYS” in our shop to make these jobs a lot easier.

Stepping away from a collage format might let you show people other ideas !
Good Luck Jim !

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#7 posted 01-26-2017 04:43 PM

I use to offer seminars on “Sanding” before finishing. Very limited if any response. I changed the title to “Pre-finishing” and seminars were full.

As to other types of classes you may want to reference http://www.marcadams.com/ 2017 brochure. Marc has been offering and building his programs/facilities for decades.

Good luck
Bruce

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#8 posted 01-26-2017 05:52 PM

I know a wood turning class would peak my interest.

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#9 posted 01-26-2017 06:04 PM

that mysterious art- chair making

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#10 posted 01-26-2017 06:14 PM

Are you looking for one day or multi day ideas?

Right now, a class on surface embellishments appeals to me. Something like an overview of the different types of carving, inlay, and marquetry that would let me try out the tools and techniques to see what I’d want to take a longer class on would be great. That would be a short class (1-2 days) compared to a more in depth coverage of any one of those topics.

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#11 posted 01-26-2017 06:48 PM

Definitely a finishing class. I’d take a class on using and sharpening hand tools. And a class on sketchup.

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#12 posted 01-26-2017 07:25 PM

Jim, I just got a Woodccraft catalog in the mail, you know, the outfit in Tigard? They offer many different types of classes, you might get some ideas there.

In this issue of the catalog they had Wooden Bowls, Spray Finishing with HVLP, Craftsy Finishes like milk paints, distressing techniques, faux finishes, glaze coats, and Java Gel Stain makeover, Valentines Day Pen, Turning Lidded Boxes, Intermediate Scrollsaw techniques, Cabinetry Intensive – carcass construction, face frames, hinges and doors.

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#13 posted 01-26-2017 07:46 PM

Interesting idea Jbay I would suppose that could follow a cabinet making class.
Bruce that’s and interesting point,who wants to sand but lots of folks want to finish better,
tungoil I’ve built chairs before that’s a possibility would be a week long class.
Mike I’m not a master turner but could have a class on turning basis
engineerchic I’ve offered multiple day classes in the past and may still.
Clammy I’ve taught sharpening before I think that might be a good work shop.
Jerry the closest woodcraft is 80 miles away and has offered to have me teach classes but it’s just too far to be worthwhile. Tigard I’m afraid is closer to 200 miles from me. but Your right I’ll see if I can find their list of classes online for ideas.
Great Ideas guys some of the I’d never thought of before thanks so much.

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#14 posted 01-26-2017 08:43 PM

Wish you were closer. I’d sign up for the lathe class.

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#15 posted 01-26-2017 08:53 PM

Sharpening and using hand planes. I got some wood body planes and I have better luck with them for some reason.
Maybe the fit is just right for my hands, less tipping.

Anyway, basic hand plane classes. They can be very frustrating to learn on your own.

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#16 posted 01-26-2017 10:15 PM

When someone poses this question to me I always go back to what my 9th grade woodshed teacher said (circa 1959) ”you cannot build a descent project until you understand how to prepare your stock (wood) properly!”
He was referring to preparing raw lumber for a given project; i.e. planing and cutting the wood ready to build a project.
Similar to the term we use now GIGO, _Garage In, Garbage Out”!

So I would suspect that the “beginners” course should start at that point.

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#17 posted 01-26-2017 10:30 PM

Thats good Rob
You and your woodshop teacher are so right Hans,good idea.

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#18 posted 01-27-2017 01:28 AM

I’m like a lot of modern woodworkers who got their start by watching Norm use power power tools and built my shop around the tools he had in his. But I now realize I should have learned more about how to use basic hand tools and am ready to get back to basics this summer by taking a week long class at a school in Canada.

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#19 posted 01-27-2017 01:38 AM

Jim I am retiring soon and one of my plans is to take some wood working classes. In the last ten years or so I think I have “mastered” the basics but I need to get to the next level (and having a hard time doing so). I would like to attend classes on 1) advanced joinery, dovetails ect. 2) Effective finishing. and 3) better planning and time management with order of operation. Just me but hope this helps. Wish you lived closer, I would sign up for your classes quickly.

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#20 posted 01-27-2017 02:14 AM

Wood turning,Wood carving then furniture.
Good luck with your classes
We need more around here

Aj

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#21 posted 01-27-2017 02:31 AM

Some areas I would like guidance would be joinery (including methods as well best equipment to use and how to get setup for success), tool maintenance (might seem dull but I don’t know much about tune ups, blade sharpening, etc), project development (including programs like SketchUp which I have not conquered) and how to address wood movement in designs that are made from all wood (no plywood).

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#22 posted 01-27-2017 03:03 AM

How to clean up, maintain, and sharpen your tools from carving chisels, to planes, to saws.

Furniture building and cabinet joinery

Carving

Veneering

Finishing

If you cover the basics including using power and hand tools – I think you would have a great set of classes

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#23 posted 01-27-2017 04:11 AM

Im not sure what available with your collages in US. In Canada we are seeing Certification in HOME RENOVATIONS.
These are week end programs.
Deal with everything a Do-it-yourself should know about.
Codes
Permits
Building
Framing
Heating
electrical
Painting
Finishing
Each week end covers a different topic.
Each course has some hands on and theory

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#24 posted 01-27-2017 04:41 AM

I teach marquetry because I can do it with no “special” insurance. I would enjoy teaching boatbuilding but the size of the undertaking and the major insurance hit make it too involved and expensive.
That’s just me….

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#25 posted 01-27-2017 04:56 AM

Thanks for all the input gang.

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#26 posted 01-27-2017 04:35 PM

I wish you all the luck you deserve Jim :<))

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#27 posted 01-27-2017 05:33 PM



When someone poses this question to me I always go back to what my 9th grade woodshed teacher said (circa 1959) ”you cannot build a descent project until you understand how to prepare your stock (wood) properly!”
He was referring to preparing raw lumber for a given project; i.e. planing and cutting the wood ready to build a project.
Similar to the term we use now GIGO, _Garage In, Garbage Out”!
So I would suspect that the “beginners” course should start at that point.
- oldnovice

BINGO Hans! Initial preparation of stock would be ideal IMO.

That preparation can include the proper use of:

  • Bandsaw, including resawing and finer cutsl
  • Jointer use and safety
  • Planer techniques (reducing rip/tear out, snipe, etc)
  • TS use and proper blade choice
  • Sanders—Palm, orbital, belt, oscillating, etc.
Follow that up with a simple project that could teach:
  • Joinery—Box, M&T, miter, etc. (or any one of those to keep in simple)
  • Gluing and clamps
  • Finishing

And THAT just about covers it all! Great idea!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#28 posted 01-27-2017 06:03 PM

Thanks GR8
Thanks Mike ,that list of ideas are very good . It seems to me all but the sanding part of the equation could be a class by itself, good use of the follow-up classes to.

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#29 posted 01-27-2017 07:59 PM



Im not sure what available with your collages in US. In Canada we are seeing Certification in HOME RENOVATIONS.
These are week end programs.
Deal with everything a Do-it-yourself should know about.
Codes
Permits
Building
Framing
Heating
electrical
Painting
Finishing
Each week end covers a different topic.
Each course has some hands on and theory

- canadianchips


I like the sound of that, I’m going to look for one around Maryland.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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a1Jim

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#30 posted 01-27-2017 08:08 PM

I appreciate The suggestion Canadian but having been a contractor for 30 years It would not appeal to me to teach along those lines, but I can understand if someone’s interested in taking those type of classes that wants to have a better understanding of the trades or if the want to do remodeling work.

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#31 posted 01-27-2017 11:00 PM

I have not taught a class but I have taught two seminars. One was wood carving and one was toy making. The toy making class was well attended, not so much the wood carving. I would like to teach double bevel inlay done with a scroll saw. I have taught a few individuals how to do this but never a seminar…..yet.

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#32 posted 02-17-2017 05:03 PM

I think any kind of input and teaching from you, Jim, would be great.

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#33 posted 02-17-2017 05:56 PM

Thanks Jim
Thanks Roger very kind of you to say that.

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#34 posted 02-17-2017 06:04 PM

Jim, I think that reproduction furniture projects would be the most popular.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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