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<$1500 120v Table saws

by Rob_s
posted 11-28-2016 05:04 PM


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Madmark2

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#1 posted 11-28-2016 05:16 PM

Grizzly G0715P has a 110v option for around $800 – with enough to spare from your $1500 budget for an Incra fence and router insert.

M

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#2 posted 11-28-2016 05:21 PM

The guts of the Jet Proshop and Fusion are nearly identical. The Proshop has a nice single piece steel front rail, while the Fusion has a two-piece aluminum rail. For that reason, I’d pick the Proshop over the Fusion, though the full cabinet of the Fusion is nice. The PM Accufence is the beefiest fence of all of these…dunno if it merits a $300 premium over the Jet, but it’s nice.

Fusion:


Proshop:

Worth mention – the Fusion and Baileigh hybrids are very close to being the same saw.

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#3 posted 11-28-2016 05:22 PM

You can’t go wrong with either the Jet or Powermatic. The one Laguna TS I have seen at Rockler, is not as well made as the others.

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#4 posted 11-28-2016 05:36 PM



Grizzly G0715P has a 110v option for around $800 – with enough to spare from your $1500 budget for an Incra fence and router insert.

M

- Madmark2

this, and others like it, have me a bit wary of that option
https://jayscustomcreations.com/2014/03/grizzly-g0715p-hybrid-table-saw/

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#5 posted 11-28-2016 06:51 PM

Regardless of which one you choose, you will need at least a 20A dedicated circuit – normal 120v outlets are 15 amps and will cause problems trying to push a 1.75hp motor, particularly if there are other devices on the circuit.

The Powermatic actually states it should have a 30A circuit:

If you don’t have a dedicated circuit, then you might as well run a 240V one if you are going to have to run a new one anyway. Just saying.

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 11-28-2016 06:59 PM

I have three wall-outlet circuits in my shop. One on each wall (4th wall is the rollup doors). They are each 120v, 20amp.

While plugging in to one of these wouldn’t be “dedicated”, I’m the only one in the shop and can only use one tool at a time. At most I’d have the tablesaw and a dust collector running, so plug one in on one wall and another in on the other wall.

the panel actually has to 240v breakers in it now, one of which is a 60 amp and one is a 30 amp, but there isn’t much in the way of viable 240v tablesaws in my budget (would much rather be closer to the $1k than the $1.5k) and adding the outlet just adds to the cost.

At the end of the day I’m not in the shop enough to justify dropping $2k on one tool.

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#7 posted 11-28-2016 07:43 PM

Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

Personally I’d like to have the Powermatic because of the known quality.

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#8 posted 11-28-2016 08:04 PM



Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

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#9 posted 11-28-2016 08:26 PM


Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

- Rob_s

The main things are the larger motor, cast iron wings, one piece fence rails and dual site measure indicator on T-fence.

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#10 posted 11-28-2016 08:30 PM

Too bad you don’t live in northeast Indiana. In the last week there has been a powermatic, delta unisaw and jet all on sale for 1500 or less. The powermatic lasted two days and went for 1500.

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#11 posted 11-28-2016 08:32 PM


Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

- Rob_s

The main things are the larger motor, cast iron wings, one piece fence rails and dual site measure indicator on T-fence.

- WhyMe

The Home Depot reviews are pretty bad too.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-15-Amp-10-in-Contractor-Saw-with-30-in-Right-Hand-Rip-36-5100/205404774

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#12 posted 11-28-2016 09:07 PM

Maybe I’m alone on this but I’d pop for $1700 and purchase a sawstop. When my old delta contractors saw goes, I see no other alternative in my mind. Hopefully I’ll still have all my fingers when I do it.

My nephew has had one for awhile now and the quality/fit/finish are excellent. And it works as advertised.

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#13 posted 11-28-2016 09:31 PM



Maybe I m alone on this but I d pop for $1700 and purchase a sawstop. When my old delta contractors saw goes, I see no other alternative in my mind. Hopefully I ll still have all my fingers when I do it.

My nephew has had one for awhile now and the quality/fit/finish are excellent. And it works as advertised.

- Craftsman on the lake

Bridge too far. I considered it, but I can’t justify the added expense relative to the amount of time I have to spend in the shop.

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#14 posted 11-29-2016 10:34 PM

I’m going to say scour for a delta unisaw. So much less anxiety.

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#15 posted 11-29-2016 11:05 PM

Rob, how much wood working are you planning on doing and what level of projects are you planning? If doing a lot of high end projects and plan on this saw to be a onetime investment then buy the best you can afford. Something that you can get parts and service for years to come.

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#16 posted 11-30-2016 01:21 PM



Rob, how much wood working are you planning on doing and what level of projects are you planning? If doing a lot of high end projects and plan on this saw to be a onetime investment then buy the best you can afford. Something that you can get parts and service for years to come.

- WhyMe

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#17 posted 11-30-2016 01:34 PM



I m going to say scour for a delta unisaw. So much less anxiety.

- mike02130

Evidently you missed the part where I’ve already been doing that and found nothing but projects and money pits, at best. I don’t want to go into the shop to tinker with the tool, I want the tool to work when I go into the shop.

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#18 posted 11-30-2016 01:39 PM

“I considered it, but I can’t justify the added expense” Your fingers aren’t worth the $250 difference over the Powermatic – that you WOULD buy?

Also I’ll bet your three 20 amp outlets are all on the same circuit. Running a saw and dust collector will trip the breaker most every time.

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#19 posted 11-30-2016 01:46 PM

I had a 3hp unisaw for years. I ended up leaving it with my brother when I moved and used an older delta contractor saw for a few years at my new place. I decided I wanted a saw that had a riving knife so I looked at the same saws you are. I ended up buying the delta hybrid from Lowe’s. While not as robust as the other saws like you this is just a hobby now and price wise I just couldn’t justify spending more. After a year and a half I can say I couldn’t be happier with my decision. This is just my opinion and not looking to buck the trend of buy the most expensive you can afford. As an fyi I do own a number of high end tools. This just made the most sense to me.

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#20 posted 12-01-2016 11:01 AM


“I considered it, but I can’t justify the added expense” Your fingers aren t worth the $250 difference over the Powermatic – that you WOULD buy?

Also I ll bet your three 20 amp outlets are all on the same circuit. Running a saw and dust collector will trip the breaker most every time.

- dhazelton


Again, bridge too far. i don’t really want to be spending $1500, I want to be spending $1000, so the powermatic is already stretching things too much.

I don’t have 3 20 amp outlets, I have 3 20 amp circuits. I’ve opened the panel, seen them, labeled them, and tested them. One circuit per wall. Each circuit has 2-3 outlets on it.

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#21 posted 12-01-2016 11:12 AM


I ended up buying the delta hybrid from Lowe s. While not as robust as the other saws like you this is just a hobby now and price wise I just couldn t justify spending more. After a year and a half I can say I couldn t be happier with my decision. This is just my opinion and not looking to buck the trend of buy the most expensive you can afford. As an fyi I do own a number of high end tools. This just made the most sense to me.

- ajshobby

I’m more and more leaning toward this. I was willing to consider the three saws in the OP with the sale pricing but now that they’re all back to normal I think the $600 saw in the shop is better than the $1500 saw on the internet, and exponentially better than the unicorn from Craigslist.

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#22 posted 12-01-2016 12:59 PM

Have you considered the updated Grizzly G0771Z) with the fence upgrade? $695/+$99 shipping. It has cabinet mounted trunnions for easier alignment, similar to those on the Jet and Fusion hybrids, solid cast wings, full enclosure.


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#23 posted 12-01-2016 01:16 PM

Rob,

Just wanted to throw in my two cents. I think KnottScott’s suggestion above is a solid one (though I don’t know the reviews on the above saw). I will say that when I got into woodworking, I anticipated doing more/larger furniture projects down the road. Aside from casework for small projects using 3/4” plywood, most of my other tools are now used as “support” equipment for my lathe, as I’ve been focusing more on turning for the last 9 months. So with that in mind, I have the Delta 36-725 and am very happy with it. I previously had an old Craftsman contractor’s saw, but it vibrated pretty badly, and aligning the blade to the miter slots was nearly impossible. Setup on the Delta was overwhelmingly easy (despite ignoring the recommendations and bringing it in my shop and completing setup by myself). Everything can be fine tuned, it runs pretty quiet, the dust collection is handy (not perfect, but pretty good for what it is), cast iron top was nicely machined…really an all-around nice saw. If you’re not planning on ripping down 8/4 lumber, I think this should handle all you can throw at it. Oh, and the 3-wheel base takes a little getting use to, but it’s easy enough to move and level.

Oh, and I know Delta doesn’t have a great rep for customer service (I called once…25 minutes until someone answered), but Lowe’s has never let me down in that department (on returns…not so much on service in general). So if there are any problems, they’ll take care of you.

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#24 posted 12-01-2016 03:49 PM

I’m back to say even though I suggested to buy the best you can afford I personally purchased the Delta 36-725. I’m just a casual wood worker and I’ve been pleased with it. I was surprised with the reviews on HD for the 36-5000 series seeing it’s a step up from the 36-725 but the reviews were few and people who have issues are usually the first to post the bad experience. Even my experience with Delta support has been good. Somehow the throat plate got bent in the box and Delta sent me a new one no questions asked and I received in within 5 days. I used the Lowes moving coupon and got 10% off when I purchased mine. The moving coupon use to be in the change of address packet at the USPS office, not sure if it is still available.

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#25 posted 12-01-2016 06:29 PM



Have you considered the updated Grizzly G0771Z) with the fence upgrade? $695/+$99 shipping. It has cabinet mounted trunnions for easier alignment, similar to those on the Jet and Fusion hybrids, solid cast wings, full enclosure.


- knotscott

I hadn’t really considered that one. It looks like a great suggestion, thanks.

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#26 posted 01-08-2017 10:32 PM

Revisiting this, with the G0771z still vaporware and the price increase, and the 15% off Jet tools through tomorrow, I’m weighing the G0771z at ~$900 all in, or the Jet Proshop 708494K JPS-10TS at $1,150 all-in.

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#27 posted 01-09-2017 01:00 AM



Revisiting this, with the G0771z still vaporware and the price increase, and the 15% off Jet tools through tomorrow, I m weighing the G0771z at ~$900 all in, or the Jet Proshop 708494K JPS-10TS at $1,150 all-in.

- Rob_s

The Proshop is really well proven. Tax on it?

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#28 posted 01-09-2017 07:36 AM


Regardless of which one you choose, you will need at least a 20A dedicated circuit – normal 120v outlets are 15 amps and will cause problems trying to push a 1.75hp motor, particularly if there are other devices on the circuit

- MrUnix


My G0715p worked just fine on a 15a circuit paired with a refrigerator. It popped a braker maybe twice in half a year. The refrigerator turned off however more often.
15a is just a number. The table saw usually runs at much smaller current. Only when you try to push it too much it loads to the nominal power, never happened to md even cutting 8/4 hard maple.
Starting current is more important and looks like 2hp grizzly did not have it high enough to pop the breaker. Those two times probably i started the saw at the same time as the fridge was starting.

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#29 posted 01-09-2017 08:01 AM

There is really only two things that can kill a motor – bearings and heat. Starving a motor on an undersized circuit will cause excessive heat in the windings, which causes them to breakdown prematurely. Rule of thumb is that the insulation life is cut in half for every 10C additional heat to the windings (above rated operating temperature). Not saying you can’t do it if you want… but there is a reason why the manual states the electrical requirements the way they do.

Cheers,
Brad

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#30 posted 01-09-2017 10:19 AM


Revisiting this, with the G0771z still vaporware and the price increase, and the 15% off Jet tools through tomorrow, I m weighing the G0771z at ~$900 all in, or the Jet Proshop 708494K JPS-10TS at $1,150 all-in.

- Rob_s

The Proshop is really well proven. Tax on it?

- knotscott

I don’t believe it’s taxed.

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#31 posted 01-09-2017 11:55 AM


Revisiting this, with the G0771z still vaporware and the price increase, and the 15% off Jet tools through tomorrow, I m weighing the G0771z at ~$900 all in, or the Jet Proshop 708494K JPS-10TS at $1,150 all-in.

- Robs

The Proshop is really well proven. Tax on it?

- knotscott

I don t believe it s taxed.

- Robs

Well, for $250 you get a 5-year warranty vs 1 yr, what looks to be a beefier fence, and a saw with a longer track record….maybe better fit and finish too. The only thing you really give up is the full enclosure and the extra cash. I’d be tempted with the Jet at the price if I was limited to 120v.

On the other hand, for the sake of argument…. that extra $250 puts you within $150 of a G1023RL 3hp industrial cabinet saw, but if 220v is out, that’s a no-go.

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#32 posted 01-09-2017 12:13 PM

I may yet have the ability for 220, need to talk to the electrician today. But, it becomes a plus, plus, plus situation. The $250 premium of the jet over the 0771z, then the $150 premium of the 123 over the jet, then the premium on the electrical work….

And the 123 is actually ~$1500 shipped now, making it a $350 premium over the Jet (based on current sale price through today) not $150. Not to mention the 123 is also not immediately available.

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#33 posted 07-20-2017 05:27 PM


I ended up buying the delta hybrid from Lowe s. While not as robust as the other saws like you this is just a hobby now and price wise I just couldn t justify spending more. After a year and a half I can say I couldn t be happier with my decision. This is just my opinion and not looking to buck the trend of buy the most expensive you can afford. As an fyi I do own a number of high end tools. This just made the most sense to me.

- ajshobby

I m more and more leaning toward this. I was willing to consider the three saws in the OP with the sale pricing but now that they re all back to normal I think the $600 saw in the shop is better than the $1500 saw on the internet, and exponentially better than the unicorn from Craigslist.

- Rob_s

Well that sure turned out to be wrong. While I absolutely believe that some people get a good Ridgid or Delta, what you’re really paying the premium for is the likelihood of getting a saw without issue when you pay more. I bit down on the Ridgid, and it bit back. Top is so warped I can’t even get a 90 degree rip cut on a 24” length of 2×4.

So now I’m back to considering the $1200 price range. Sounds like the Jet is probably still the A-answer.

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#34 posted 07-20-2017 06:07 PM

Complete minus miter gauge. 530$ total with vfd. In Louisiana. This is a unicorn but it is also proof that new isn’t infinitely better.

I have a 36” lathe, 14” delta BS, 2 unisaws and soon a 20” drill press for all less than 1500$ in Louisiana of all places. So I wouldn’t say anything about anything being better. Just saying. It takes commitment but oh is it worth it.

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#35 posted 07-20-2017 06:31 PM

It takes commitment but oh is it worth it.

I agree completely, however – the PO emphatically stated that he prefers new and has all but given up on CL… which is a shame. SE Florida is a FANTASTIC area for killer deals. I see them all the time, but unfortunately that would be an 8 hour drive one way for me. To each his own… I personally would rather spend significantly less for a much better machine than you can find new, but everyone has their own preference.

Cheers,
Brad

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#36 posted 07-20-2017 06:40 PM

I’d love to see some of these killer deals. All I’ve seen in two years of looking is Ryobi garbage. Or saws that require a ton of work to get into service. I’m not really interested in rehabbing a saw, I’m interested in producing useful items from my workshop.

But I understand that many people have a different set of priorities, or more money than time, or are simply looking at their woodworking as a way to burn daylight in which case it matters not if shop time is spent tinkering on tools or producing finished products.

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#37 posted 07-20-2017 06:48 PM

Of the options you listed…. I’d get the Jet Pro Shop. These are well thought out and tested designs.

The Powermatic looks too much like an over glorified contractors saw… which is an older design style.

I don’t think you’ll have any problems running the 120 v saws off of a shared 20 amp circuit. They only draw close to their peak rated amps during start up and making very heavy cuts. Just don’t try to run your DC or shop vac at the same time.

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#38 posted 07-20-2017 06:55 PM

I d love to see some of these killer deals. All I’ve seen in two years of looking is Ryobi garbage. Or saws that require a ton of work to get into service.
- Rob_s

Well, just off the bat.. maybe not a steal, but how about a nice Delta 36-725 with lots of extras for $450 in Boynton Beach? Certainly meets your <$1500 and 120V criteria. It ain’t a Ryobi and would not require any work.

Next time I do run across a steal of a deal, I’ll pass it along your way… but you gotta be quick :)

Cheers,
Brad

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#39 posted 07-20-2017 08:22 PM

I don’t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

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#40 posted 07-20-2017 08:40 PM

I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.
- Rob_s

Hmmm… your complaint was that all you could find was “Ridgid Garbage” or something that required “tons of work”. That saw is neither, meets your original stated criteria (and way below your price point), and comes with a lot of extras that you won’t get with a new saw. Appears your criteria is a moving target.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: You don’t like that one… no worries… another dozen or more will come along in the next few days/weeks :)

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#41 posted 07-20-2017 10:08 PM



I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

- Rob_s

IMHO the Delta has a better fence.

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#42 posted 07-20-2017 11:56 PM

I went through the same process last year and I decided on the Powermatic PM1000. My second choice was the Jet. If I would not have gotten 10% off and free shipping I would have the Jet now.
I looked at this as the most important tool in my shop and having a crappy tables was very frustrating.
Buy once, cry once. I have no regrets about my decision.

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#44 posted 07-21-2017 11:37 AM



I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.
- Rob_s

Hmmm… your complaint was that all you could find was “Ridgid Garbage” or something that required “tons of work”. That saw is neither, meets your original stated criteria (and way below your price point), and comes with a lot of extras that you won t get with a new saw. Appears your criteria is a moving target.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: You don t like that one… no worries… another dozen or more will come along in the next few days/weeks :)

- MrUnix

Actually, I said “Ryobi garbage”.

And of course it’s a moving target. What I’m willing to deal with, especially after my experience with the Ridgid, is pretty minimal. I’m not really interested in taking two hours out of my day to drive to go see this saw only to find out that it too has s warped top and is a waste of time. Again, some folks have plenty of time on their hands and enjoynthat kind of thing, I don’t.

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#45 posted 07-21-2017 11:38 AM


I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

- Rob_s

IMHO the Delta has a better fence.

- knotscott

Is it more likely to have a flat top?

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#46 posted 07-21-2017 12:29 PM

I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

- Robs

IMHO the Delta has a better fence.

- knotscott

Is it more likely to have a flat top?

I look at things like fences as secondary if the basic criteria that makes a table saw useable isn t met.

- Robs

Rob,

I own that saw, and the top was flat. I know quality control can be an issue on some of the less expensive options, but I haven’t read any reviews indicating this to be a problem on the 36-725.

Also, FWIW, the extras the seller has built seem to indicate they know a thing or two about what they’re doing. And while not impossible, I do think it would be less likely that someone would put that much time and money into a saw to make those jigs if the saw was horribly out of spec.

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#47 posted 07-21-2017 01:24 PM

I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

- Robs

IMHO the Delta has a better fence.

- knotscott

Is it more likely to have a flat top?

I look at things like fences as secondary if the basic criteria that makes a table saw useable isn t met.

- Robs

No guarantee of flatness with any of them in this day and age. Fortunately, they all have a “guarantee” against defects in the event there’s an issue, and fortunately it takes a sizeable deviation from flatness in just the right place to actually affect the cut quality negatively, but I hear what you’re saying….it should be right, but this is the state of the current market.

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#48 posted 07-22-2017 10:33 PM

I don t see that delta as any better or worse than the ridgid I now have to return.

- Robs

IMHO the Delta has a better fence.

- knotscott

Is it more likely to have a flat top?

I look at things like fences as secondary if the basic criteria that makes a table saw useable isn t met.

- Robs

Rob,

I own that saw, and the top was flat. I know quality control can be an issue on some of the less expensive options, but I haven t read any reviews indicating this to be a problem on the 36-725.

Also, FWIW, the extras the seller has built seem to indicate they know a thing or two about what they re doing. And while not impossible, I do think it would be less likely that someone would put that much time and money into a saw to make those jigs if the saw was horribly out of spec.

- Dustin

Interesting point. May be at least with texting the seller to test the waters. Not much time wasted if it doesn’t pan out.

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#49 posted 07-22-2017 10:54 PM

The powermatic has the beefiest looking fence. For a table saw that matters the most.

Don’t worry about motor size, even a bench top saw can cut through anything with a Freud fusion thin kerf blade. I have a sawstop ICS but my older DW735 never got stuck with the fusion.

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