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Bandsaw motor problem

by Gixxerjoe04
posted 09-17-2016 01:31 AM


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#1 posted 09-17-2016 02:00 AM

Does the blade turn when the motor is turned on?

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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#2 posted 09-17-2016 02:02 AM

yea

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#3 posted 09-17-2016 02:04 AM

Doesn’t really sound like the motor, but the video is not all that great. But first, you need to positively identify where it’s coming from. Start by taking the belt off the motor and see if it still does it. If you are positive it’s the motor, then it’s probably time to open it up and see what’s going on. Might be something simple like a broken centrifugal switch Good chance to clean it out (and maybe replace the bearings while you are in there) ;-)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#4 posted 09-17-2016 02:10 AM

It’s def the motor, took the guard that goes around the belt and opened it up around the wheels and checked them, everything seems to be good.

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#5 posted 09-17-2016 02:16 AM

I would remove the belt and turn the motor by hand to see if it turns smoothly or does it have a crunch feel, if it does it may have bad bearings,removing and replacing the bearings is not too difficult if you follow the proper procedure.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#6 posted 09-17-2016 02:17 AM

Well, if you are positive it’s the motor – then it’s probably time to yank it and crack it open. It’s only 4 bolts. Tip: Take a punch or cold chisel and mark where the end bells are in relation to the motor body, so you can put them back on in the exact same position.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#7 posted 09-17-2016 03:27 AM

Me from the sounds of it, the first thing I would check is the pulley.shaft mounting.

IF you had a loose pulley screw, and the woodroof key worked itself out, the motor would turn, maybe driving that pulley, but maybe it was the driven pulley that lost the key,

Regardless loss of either key would allow the pulley to rotate on the shaft, and generate a high pitched squeal as the metal rubbed on metal.

The pop you heard may have been the woodroof key making it’s departure.

If you don’t know what it looks like, its a crescent moon shape.

And ya, if you turn it by hand, everything may turn, and if you have spalled metal on the shaft pulley interface, it may provide enuf friction to turn everything without load.

Freak, even by looking at shaft and pulley, if the key is missing you will see the slots misaligned unless you are so unlucky as to have the slots accidently aligned! ((about a 1 in 360 chance of that, but it could still happen)...

Just align the slots, push in the new woodroof key and tighten the allen screw on the puley.

If the pulley turns and the the shaft doesn’t, the key is missing

I wouldn’t pop the motor apart until you check what I just said. .

Motors tend to run without p[problems for a long time. If you have an open motor, in a bandsaw, sometimes the dust can accumulate on the starter points, but that presents as a flakey starting, the starting points are so crudded up with burnt sawdust that they don’t make contact, so all yer motor does is humm and eventually smoke.

My bet is you got a power transmission problem and a 39 cent woodroof key may well be the solution.

We should all have a spare or four in the shop.

Me I wouldn’t go looking for the 300$ solution (new bandsaw) when the 39 cent solution would get me runnung again in minutes.

Don’t ask me how I know this….

Regards…

Eric

Eric

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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#8 posted 09-17-2016 10:24 AM

That didn’t sound like a motor issue to me, sounded like a belt or something jammed between blade and tires. I like what he ^ said and would follow his diagnosis procedure.

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#9 posted 09-17-2016 03:06 PM

The key coming off the pulley is a good possibility, It happened to each bandsaw I’ve owned.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#10 posted 09-17-2016 03:30 PM

Failed motor bearing. I just had to replace a bad motor bearing a few weeks ago. Sounded just like that when it went.

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#11 posted 09-19-2016 01:53 AM

Will need to look up some videos to hopefully help figure out what I’m doing. Had a show this weekend and my wife is due to give birth any day now, so probably won’t have time for awhile I’d say.

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#12 posted 09-19-2016 11:41 AM

Nah, your wife doesn’t need your help having that baby, you need to focus on your bandsaw. ;-)

Seriously though, after you’re a proud Papa (congrats!), I’d check pulley key first then follow Brad’s advice on opening the motor housing and checking the switch and bearings. Not sure what saw you have (can’t watch video right now) but even if it’s a catastrophic failure of the motor (and I doubt it is if it’s still driving the saw) I’d be willing to bet you could replace the motor cheaply without chucking the whole saw.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#13 posted 09-20-2016 02:01 AM

listened to the youtube….my bet is still on the missing key

Eric

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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#14 posted 09-26-2016 06:17 PM

Figured I’d give an update. So, luckily it was what some of you all thought, I little piece of metal that holds the pulley wheel in place popped out and was causing the noise. Found it in a pile of dust luckily, guess the noise was so ear piercing, I thought it just sounded like it was coming from the motor. Just glad it was a simple fix, would have sucked being without a bandsaw for awhile.

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#15 posted 09-26-2016 06:27 PM

You want to check and see if there is an allen set screw in the pulley that can be tightened down on that key. Most pulleys have them.

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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#16 posted 09-26-2016 06:34 PM

There is, guess it had just loosened up over the years. Also doesn’t help the lower wheel on my bandsaw needs to be balanced pretty bad, need to look up some videos on how to do that.

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#17 posted 09-27-2016 03:19 AM

The more these problems occur, the more you get tuned in to the particular noise of problems, the kink in the bandsaw blade, a pooched bearing, set in a pulley belt.

Glad yer backin business.

Eric

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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