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Craftsman Racall Kit for Radial Arm Saw 113.19771

by LoyalAppleGeek
posted 09-08-2016 10:24 PM


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jonlruss

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#1 posted 09-13-2016 08:03 PM

Did you check with the recall site to see if they still have the kit for your model?

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 09-13-2016 08:10 PM

They only offer the $100 now – the kits have long since been gone. I got the kit for mine years ago – the new blade guard and handle are a PITA and interferes with the fence, particularly when it’s in the rear position. The only useful part of the kit was the new table – which is just a couple pieces of MDF. Worked out great for me as my table was pretty trashed and I was just about to go to the BORG and buy some new MDF anyway :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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sbarlin

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#3 posted 09-13-2016 11:22 PM

I have a retrofit kit but I don’t know what saw it fits. I sold the saw without using the kit.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#4 posted 09-14-2016 04:48 AM


They only offer the $100 now – the kits have long since been gone. I got the kit for mine years ago – the new blade guard and handle are a PITA and interferes with the fence, particularly when it s in the rear position. The only useful part of the kit was the new table – which is just a couple pieces of MDF. Worked out great for me as my table was pretty trashed and I was just about to go to the BORG and buy some new MDF anyway :)

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

Yep Brad! Sure did. They have a few in stock, but not for my saw.

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 09-14-2016 11:43 AM

This is actually a first for me, seeing someone who wants the kit instead of the $100 (I understand you’re happy with the saw). I’m sure someone has one, finding that person may take some patience.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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greenacres2

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#6 posted 09-14-2016 05:56 PM

I saved the blade guard with shield when I sent my motor in for the $100, maybe it would fit your saw. I’ll check the model number when I get home next Monday if you like. (i also raided a good variety of nuts, bolts, cursors, a pair of miter gears from the elevation crank—good bunch of clutter i saved!!) The replacement table has been repurposed into a few jigs and a few sizes of back tables for my Dewalt GWI.

If it were me—i’d take the bounty and find a 1950’s to 1970’s Dewalt GWI, MBF or similar. With a little clean-up and fresh bearings those can be lifetime saws.

earl

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Cooler

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#7 posted 09-14-2016 06:38 PM

I got the kit; I replaced the old blade guard which would not allow the use of a dado set, but my table was in good shape and I have that as a backup.

Just because they ran out does not make them exempt from liability. The reason they made the replacements available was to head off lawsuits.

Sears did not make the saws and you should point out to Sears that their supplier’s decision not to make the blade guard available puts them in a serious liability situation. They may be able to get this done anyhow.

I never figured out why they supplied the table too. But the blade guard was essential.

-- This post is a hand-crafted natural product. Slight variations in spelling and grammar should not be viewed as flaws or defects, but rather as an integral characteristic of the creative process.

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Loren

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#8 posted 09-14-2016 07:51 PM

I checked and noticed the website for the recall is finally
working. I tried 5-6 times in the past and they neither
returned calls, answered the phone or had the site
working.

where does one find the serial # on a Craftsman RAS?

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Cooler

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#9 posted 09-14-2016 08:00 PM



I checked and noticed the website for the recall is finally
working. I tried 5-6 times in the past and they neither
returned calls, answered the phone or had the site
working.

where does one find the serial # on a Craftsman RAS?

- Loren

Look on page one: http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/determinemodels.aspx


-- This post is a hand-crafted natural product. Slight variations in spelling and grammar should not be viewed as flaws or defects, but rather as an integral characteristic of the creative process.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#10 posted 09-14-2016 10:13 PM

Just a quick note to say i’ve been replaying to the great people here via direct message, don’t worry, I haven’t forget about you :)

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#11 posted 09-14-2016 11:46 PM

Whoops, bad typos there LOL. Adds to the character of the post, right?

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bigblockyeti

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#12 posted 09-15-2016 12:11 AM

I’m not sure if this would fit yours or not, but it’s new and the saws changed little over time after the top went from cast iron to die cast aluminum: http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/tls/5771965640.html

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#13 posted 09-15-2016 12:23 AM



I m not sure if this would fit yours or not, but it s new and the saws changed little over time after the top went from cast iron to die cast aluminum: http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/tls/5771965640.html

- bigblockyeti

Just looked into it. It’s the wrong saw, but wow, great condition! Thank you for sharing, this community has been incredibly helpful!

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ArtMann

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#14 posted 09-15-2016 12:56 AM

I got the retrofit kit and partially installed it. The fix was so poorly engineered that I restored the original configuration. I sold the saw and the buyer didn’t want it either so I threw it away.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#15 posted 09-15-2016 01:34 AM

I understand, but don’t worry. I’ve researched everything very heavily and am well aware of what I want and don’t want. Don’t let that keep you from making suggestions though, I’m happy to get all the information I can :-)

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greenacres2

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#16 posted 09-15-2016 02:06 AM

Apple geek…got your pm, working a race, home on Monday I hope!!
Earlier

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#17 posted 09-15-2016 03:39 AM



Apple geek…got your pm, working a race, home on Monday I hope!!
Earlier

- greenacres2

I look forward to It! I might have said thank you via PM already, but I’m not sure. I have the memory of a goldfish… With amnesia.

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MikesProjects

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#18 posted 09-15-2016 04:39 AM

I got the kit several years ago, I like it but I just put the new surround around the blade, works good for dust. The mdf was not used because the saw in installed on a miter station elevation which has a formica top, I think the new mdf top has to do with them repositioning the fence forward a bit. It was my fathers saw & it works-looks good so the new kit was kinds cool. I dont really use the saw very often, the sliding miter saw usually does the trick but it does have its place…....

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#19 posted 09-16-2016 03:17 PM

Just coming on to say I’m on a couple leads, and still here :-) If anyone could provide photos of their saw equipped with the retrofit kit, I’d love to see them.

Thanks again!

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WhyMe

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#20 posted 09-16-2016 05:26 PM


where does one find the serial # on a Craftsman RAS?

- Loren

On my Craftsman RAS it’s on the front of the table base to the left of the hand crank.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#21 posted 09-18-2016 04:42 AM

It’s in the same place on mine :-) I’m sorry for not answering sooner, I’m glad WhyMe? did :-)

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toolie

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#22 posted 09-18-2016 11:12 AM

Loyalapplegeek…... Are u sure there is a retro fit it for your model saw? Saws with only 8 digits in the serial number are older. I have one from the mid 60s with 8 digits in the serial number . There was no recall kit offered for my saw and I fear there isn’t one for yours, provided the serial number is reflected correctly.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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MrUnix

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#23 posted 09-18-2016 11:32 AM

Are u sure there is a retro fit it for your model saw? Saws with only 8 digits in the serial number are older. I have one from the mid 60s with 8 digits in the serial number.

The recall was based on model number, and there was in fact a kit offered for the saw in question. I have the exact same saw model, and received my kit – a nice big box delivered by UPS – a couple of days after filling out a form at the recall web site. Blade guard is just a CYA thing that is a PITA, but the replacement table was a welcome inclusion. For reference, here is the cover of the ‘manual’ that came with it, which shows the model number of the upgrade kit along with the RAS model numbers it fits:

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#24 posted 09-18-2016 05:12 PM

Well, what Brad said :-) I was going to give the same explanation LOL.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#25 posted 10-06-2016 02:29 AM

Hello to everyone! The search is still on. I am currently waiting for a reply from another company in addition to the sources I have found here. It will likely be 7 days or so before I am contacted, so hang in there. I’ll post as soon as I have an update. Anyone who has one of these kits and/or experience with them, please feel free to continue writing.

Thanks again!

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BryanJ

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#26 posted 10-13-2016 08:46 AM

I have a kit (minus the table) I am not using. Send me a message. The system won’t let me send PM because I just signed up. I’ve been lurking for some time and looking forward to trying some of the things I’ve learned.

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LoyalAppleGeek

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#27 posted 11-08-2016 07:16 AM

Hi everyone,

This is an update to inform you of my discovery that some large companies take a very long time to do things… Sooo, keep the conversation and information going. I’ll be back again as soon as I know something useful.

Thanks again!

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MrUnix

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#28 posted 11-08-2016 07:21 AM

I recently picked up another identical RAS, mostly because I wanted the base it was on. I am sending the motor back for the recall, and have filled out the form and waiting for the return box to arrive. They said it could take up to 8 weeks – just to get the box… and then up to another 8 weeks to send the check once they have received the motor. Yup, they don’t move very fast :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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