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My newbie mistake

by Spitfire1
posted 08-28-2016 02:35 AM

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#1 posted 08-28-2016 02:49 AM

So what does have to do with Baltic Birch??
It should be “Dumb Me”, dont blame the Baltic Birch as your title implies.

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#2 posted 08-28-2016 02:57 AM

Change it, happy now that you don’t have to judge a post by its

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#3 posted 08-28-2016 03:56 AM

No connotation of voice in written items.
Only what you read in black and white.

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#4 posted 08-28-2016 04:28 AM

Otherwise some newbee is going to see that and think, “Oh Baltic Birch is crap”, it is one of the most stable/used materials for jigs, drawers, fence/miter gauge extensions there is if some finish is added to seal it. And maybe with out the sealer.
How thick was your piece? For all we know it could have been 1/4”.
I will give you an example from another thread tonight on a different forum, how do you give advice on this with no specific details?
Titled, Plainer Limits.
Well…, I guess you can only put so much rustic hickory through the machine befor you have to sharpen the blades. (And it ain’t much!)

Wife won’t be happy I didn’t finish that cabinet this weekend.
I was wishing my blades would last forever but…..
Anyway, after about a year and a half of ordinary use on common boards my project called for cabinet fronts of rustic hickory. The 1st three board Plaines out nicely, no bog down, no issues. But after a few passes with the next three, I started getting what at first I though might be marks from the outfeed roller but I think they are scorch marks. When they started to get worse the motel started to bog down too. Could bee the outfeed roller. IDK.
What do you all think?

Well how much use is on the blades b4? What is ordinary use?? To someone that is a few times on a weekend, to others that is a few times 3-4 days a week, What was the feed rate? What was your depth of cut on each pass?
See where I a going?

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#5 posted 08-28-2016 10:36 AM

Spitfire1 Mistakes are part of any project including post titles. The main thing is your part of the contributing family here!

-- You can trust Mike -" because I will never pull your stash!" See my show weekly at

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Fred Hargis

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#6 posted 08-28-2016 11:32 AM

Anytime you learn something, it’s not a waste of effort. Glad it wasn’t something on an expensive hardwood piece. BTW, I have a ton of such “learnings”.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#7 posted 08-28-2016 12:56 PM

Thanks everyone. It was two 3/4 inch pieces of Baltic birch laminated together.

Off to the hardwood store.

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#8 posted 08-28-2016 01:14 PM

Funny thing about these forums is that with them comes a whole new breed:

forum sheriffs
forum psychologists
forum magistrates

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#9 posted 08-28-2016 01:53 PM

Thanks for sharing your mistake. I’ll file that one away so I don’t do the same thing.

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#10 posted 08-28-2016 01:58 PM

I hate it when the “motel” bogs down. And even worse, when the machine “plaines” out nicely.
What a moron.

-- [email protected]

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Gene Howe

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#11 posted 08-28-2016 02:10 PM

If we’re smart, we learn from ours and other’s goofs.
Thanks for your post. I could fill a bunch of pages with my dumb mistakes.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#12 posted 08-28-2016 02:58 PM

Dumb Mistake is my middle name. If I didn’t make at least one a day it would mean that I hadn’t gotten out of bed. Now, if I may Pontificate for a moment. If you don’t make mistakes you will never improve your talent for artistic licence.

In the future use caution when crossing bridges. They get icy in the winter, and trolls live under many of them.

-- Still trying to master kindling making

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#13 posted 08-28-2016 03:11 PM

I hate it when the “motel” bogs down. And even worse, when the machine “plaines” out nicely.
What a moron.

- Bill White


I don’t see a couple of spelling errors or perhaps typos as being any real indicator of intelligence.

I save the moron label for those who aren’t smart enough to know when they’ve been insulted.


-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!"

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#14 posted 08-28-2016 03:40 PM

Spitfire, we all be making mistakes. Hopefully ones we can recover from with no permanent scars. I guarantee it won’t be your last. Welcome to the club.

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#15 posted 08-28-2016 04:18 PM

YOu can always profit from the screw-up, as expressed above, fortunate it wasn’t in something super expensive, Upside is your next sled will be even better, and you’ll complete it faster too!

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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#16 posted 08-28-2016 04:24 PM

Mistakes are just part of it. Finding solutions, and improvements is what WW is all about. The more experience you gain, the better you will be fixing, hiding, and progressing to solutions.

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#17 posted 08-28-2016 04:38 PM

We all make mistakes when woodworking as it is part of the challenge to be perfect.
We also make mistakes when we put up with stupid comments.

You can’t have one without the other!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#18 posted 08-28-2016 05:30 PM

Yes, we all make mistakes. When I’m in my workshop and really mess something up, nobody hears my screams and profanity. Luckily.

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#19 posted 08-28-2016 07:16 PM

We all make stupid mistakes. If you don’t learn from them that makes you the stupid one. If you’re not making silly mistakes you’re not trying to learn something new.

-- I measured once, cut twice, and its still too short...

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#20 posted 08-28-2016 09:48 PM

The most accurate sled I have is made from 3/8 pine ply with a pine 2×4 fence. It’s 20-ish years old and remains square for some reason. I’ve built “nicer” sleds but none have remained as accurate as that first one and I don’t baby it at all. The only downside is the zero edge is wallowed from years of use so it’s no longer a true “zero clearance”.

-- Rick M,

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#21 posted 08-28-2016 10:05 PM

Two questions: 1. how far up your fence is the saw kerf,I feel 1/3 should be max.and If you put a safety block behind the kerf on the fence, you should have any twist. 2. was the fence just glued? or screwed or glued and screwed?I like the back fence just screwed,for adjustments,and If something like your thing happens I just make a new fence. 3. what kind of baltic birch ply? some big box store sell BB but it’s not the 15 ply BB stuff but 6-7 ply plywood made from birch. the 15 ply real BB should never twist.

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#22 posted 08-29-2016 12:44 AM

I did not see the original post, but we have all learned many things and shared them here.

Everyone have a great upcoming week

-- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design.

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#23 posted 08-29-2016 04:30 PM

To answer your questions daddywoofdawg I wouldn’t saw the kerf is more than 1/3 the way up the fence. Secondly I never did put a blade box on my sled. I meant to but never did get around to it. I definitely will in my new one from the beginning. The fence was only screwed in place front and rear. I suppose as you noted I can simply add a new fence and be good to go.

As for the Baltic birch I bought it from a local hardwood store (Windsor Plywood).

Thanks again everyone for your responses. Have a great week.

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#24 posted 08-29-2016 06:18 PM

Make some 90 degree blocks to put behind the fence this will keep it square and straight.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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