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Minwax Oil Based Stain (frustrated!)

by Neil
posted 08-23-2016 11:33 PM


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jwmalone

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#1 posted 08-24-2016 12:00 AM

Its not the stain. Its the different wood types. Ply wood never seems to take stain like solid wood even if its the same type of wood. But that’s just been my experience. You may have to stain the ply and dye the rest to match. What type of wood is it.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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Neil

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#2 posted 08-24-2016 12:55 AM

@jw The wood is red oak with oak ply and the other is Hickory and hickory ply. I’ve always had a problem with solid wood not taking stain the same as ply, that is until I changed to dye which I have had great results matching plywood with solid wood.

I need to keep the staining down to a simple process, using dye on the solid and stain on the ply would take too much time for an entire kitchen worth of doors and drawer fronts.

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Neil

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#3 posted 08-24-2016 12:57 AM

I know the obvious answer is to find a dye stain to match, although I’m kinda cheap and now have a gallon of minwax oil stain that I’d rather not just toss in my paint cabinet.

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Carey Mitchell

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#4 posted 08-24-2016 01:03 AM

In producing the veneer layer the plywood, it is peeled from the log using a device that looks like a huge lathe (think that’s what they call it) with a blade 8 feet long. The wood fibers become separated somewhat as the thin layer (even thinner these days) is shaved off. The veneer is thus less dense than the solid wood and sucks up the stain.

I stopped using oil based stains about 10 years ago due to the difficulty and poor results. I have had really great results with Transtint stains, as I can blend colors as needed. More important, I can dilute and “sneak up” on the color I want as well as easily and quickly apply additional coats where needed.

I have really had great success applying with a cheap air brush. This has even allowed me to deal with whitewood on both walnut and cherry. I just go for a very fine profile and keep applying to the lighter areas until they match the rest. That was used on a couple of my projects on this site and I dare you to find the whitewood. The air brush cost about $15.

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jwmalone

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#5 posted 08-24-2016 01:04 AM

I agree, Id just tell the customer how it is. I get screwed evrytime some one wants me to use something specific. Especially around here, people got to the paint store for advice or watch a couple bob villa shows and think there a pro lmao.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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000

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#6 posted 08-24-2016 01:11 AM

I would make a sample out of the minwax that they want, then I would match it with whatever works for you and have them approve the color. As long as it’s the same color as the minwax color their after I don’t see a problem. I don’t let a customer dictate what products I use, just the final color they want.

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Neil

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#7 posted 08-24-2016 01:29 AM

Thanks guys!

I’ll go the route of giving them the minwax samples as is, then showing them a similar color stain of my choosing.

I thought I’d ask, see anyone had any “secret to success” with this minwax crap. My customers ask for specific wood or paint color but never a brand name stain, kinda weird.

That good advice jbay, I wont let them choose a product for me, just the color.

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nightguy

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#8 posted 08-24-2016 01:43 AM

Carey Mitchell,
FYI, Transtint is not a stain, its a dye, there is a difference, dye have no solid pigments in them like stains do that to go into the pores of the wood.

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cooperw

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#9 posted 08-24-2016 06:39 AM

Interesting, in my experience red oak soaks everything I throw at it, maybe you have white oak or something else.

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