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Well this sucks... forced new shop layout

by trevor7428
posted 08-21-2016 05:22 AM


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JAAune

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#1 posted 08-21-2016 05:27 AM

I raised my tablesaw on a 3” wood platform. Changing tool heights to be whatever is most useful makes sense.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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splatman

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#2 posted 08-21-2016 05:53 AM

Your best bet is to raise your SS to match your outfeed table. After all, you are used to working at the height of your old TS. Looks like your first project on your spiffy SS is a platform for it to sit on. Paint the platform gloss black and it will look like it’s part of the SS.

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robscastle

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#3 posted 08-21-2016 07:38 AM

AS Splatman advised raise the saw.

I went looking for a decent picture of your sawstop PCS 36 but didnt find anything.
I wanted to see the feet area of the saw frame so I could make a objective suggestion.

So see if this would work for you:

Go buy threaded adjustable feet and check the thread profile then but four rivnuts or nutserts th same thread profile drill the saw feet out and fit the nuts screw in the adjusable feet and your back on the level playing field again.

-- Regards Rob

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MikesProjects

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#4 posted 08-21-2016 08:18 AM

I recently lifted up my saw to match the outfeed table when I upgraded. Im now thinking I should lift it again to get my jointer to fit under the wing like yours, I like that better.

Like others mentioned, build a base & paint it gloss black.

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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Redoak49

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#5 posted 08-21-2016 11:25 AM

I raised my Sawstop with a 2×4 base painted black. The new base fits inside the industrial mobile base. The difficulty in raising the saw will depend on which base he has.

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dhazelton

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#6 posted 08-21-2016 11:39 AM

There was a Jerry Lewis movie called “Don’t Raise the Bridge, Lower the River.” In this case you should raise the bridge – you’re already comfortable working at that height anyway…..

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 08-21-2016 12:10 PM

What they said. Mine was only about 3/4” lower than I wanted, I simply put a piece of 3/4” plywood inside the mobile base to raise it up.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Woodbum

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#8 posted 08-21-2016 12:19 PM

Same here with my Griz 1023. I raised it 1” on the mobile base and now it fits the outfeed bench

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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canadianchips

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#9 posted 08-22-2016 01:37 PM

How tall are you ?
If the old table was comfortable height make the NEW one match.
I personally dont like cutting on table saw to high.
Mine are all 36” and thats what IM comfy with.
I would put jointer on right side of saw.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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muleskinner

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#10 posted 08-22-2016 02:36 PM

Let’s see, looks like you have two options.

option #1: Discard old outfeed table, build new one, rearrange shop layout for new jointer location, adjust to working at new table saw height.

option #2: Raise table saw.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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GR8HUNTER

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#11 posted 08-22-2016 02:37 PM

give your new person in your shop a raise ….....he looks like he could handle anything …......you throw at him …....... LMAO

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Ashthewoodist

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#12 posted 08-22-2016 07:08 PM

Like above you can do a platform for your Sawstop. I saw one recently and it looked pretty cool.

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trevor7428

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#13 posted 08-23-2016 08:09 PM

Thanks everyone for the recommendations! Wouldn’t raising the saw onto a platform, defeat the purpose of purchasing the mobile base? I don’t plan on moving my Sawstop around in my shop ever. Except if I move to new house, but the only reason I spent $200 on the mobile base was because everyone was telling me to buy the mobile base and SS at the same time. (Which made since) Since it seems like I will have to make a 2×4 base/ platform for the SS to sit on. Does anyone recommend returning the mobile base?

How much taller does the ICS mobile base make the saw stop then the normal or PCS mobile base?
I only need a couple inches to clear my jointer, which is my main concern. Maybe the ICS base would resolve my issue?

Any recommendations on getting the SS on top of this platform? Lol

...damn Sawstop, why did you have to make your saw so low to the ground? Or are all professional style table saws this low?

Thanks again for the help

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion

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clin

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#14 posted 08-23-2016 08:32 PM

With an ICS base, the saw is maybe 3/16” of an inch higher. The base forms a cradle with two heavy steel straps or bars. So when down, these straps rest on the floor and the saw on the straps.

Bottom line, very little height difference. An ICS base is not going to address your issue.

If you never plan to move the saw, then no reason to have a mobile base. As said, just build a platform to set the saw to the height you want.

I can only speak of the ICS base, but I suppose you could build a wooden platform. then bolt the saw to this platform so the platform serves as an extension of the saw cabinet. The platform would have to be the size of the cabinet and so there would be no extra room to ensure the saw can’t slide off the platform. But bolting it would ensure it can’t do that.

If you did this with an ICS base, the ICS is bigger than the PCS and you have to mod the ICS base with parts from SawStop for it to fit the PCS saw. In this case, I would build the platform the size of the ICS saw, and again bolt the PCS to that. It would be a bit more stable with the larger platform.

But if you really won’t be moving it, I sure wouldn’t buy an ICS mobile base. Lots of money you won’t use.

-- Clin

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GregD

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#15 posted 08-23-2016 08:51 PM


Any idea where to put my jointer now?

- trevor7428

How about my garage?
;-)

-- Greg D.

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JAAune

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#16 posted 08-23-2016 11:15 PM

If the saw is bolted to the wood riser, it is possible to make the riser fit inside the mobile base.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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trevor7428

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#17 posted 08-24-2016 12:06 AM



If the saw is bolted to the wood riser, it is possible to make the riser fit inside the mobile base.

- JAAune

Can you elaborate more on this? I’m not quite sure what you mean.

Thanks


I suppose you could build a wooden platform. then bolt the saw to this platform so the platform serves as an extension of the saw cabinet. The platform would have to be the size of the cabinet and so there would be no extra room to ensure the saw can t slide off the platform. But bolting it would ensure it can t do that.

- clin

Is everyone bolting there sawstop to their platforms? Or just resting it on top. I wouldn’t think the SS would slide off due to weight.

Any idea where to put my jointer now?

- trevor7428

How about my garage?
;-)

- GregD

Why didn’t I think of that! Sure just come on down and pick it up…. I would just have to sell it for twice the price I paid for it for the convenience lol

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion

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JAAune

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#18 posted 08-24-2016 02:09 AM

Most mobile bases allow the machine to set down inside steel angle brackets so it doesn’t tip off the base while it’s being moved. Size the wood riser to fit inside the mobile base and make it as tall as it needs to be to lift the saw to the correct height. Put the saw on top of the riser and screw the saw to the riser so it won’t slide off when you’re pushing it around.

I’m assuming that the riser will be taller than the depth of the angle brackets on the mobile base.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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hotbyte

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#19 posted 08-24-2016 02:41 AM

The suggestions are to put the riser platform/blocks between the saw and mobile base…not under the base wheels.

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MikesProjects

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#20 posted 08-24-2016 03:57 AM

If you would rather have the money & can return the mobile base maybe thats an idea.

I have an ics mobile base, when I upgraded to a new saw the new height was lower than my existing out feed table. I took the saw off the base, layered it with 3/4” – 1/4” melamine mostly (the inside dimension of the base opening) until I was up to the height I needed. I then lowered the saw on the wood, now I’m good to go. I didn’t bother to bolt the saw to the base but thats not a bad idea.. The cool thing is I can move the saw & entire out feed table because they are all on wheels & attached to one another. Its nice to have the saw on wheels.

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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Lee

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#21 posted 08-24-2016 04:04 AM

My PM66 is 33 7/8” I’m 6’2” and i like the table at that height, but like the others have said if you’re comfortable with a higher table then IMHO build a platform and sell the mobile base, enjoy your new saw .

-- Colombia Custom Woodworking

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Fred Hargis

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#22 posted 08-24-2016 05:27 PM

It was mentioned a few times, the riser would be between the saw and the mobile base. BTW, nice shop layout, no reason to screw that up.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Kelly

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#23 posted 08-24-2016 05:38 PM

My cabinet saw rests on 1/2” ply to get it up to the height of items built before I covered my concrete floor with horse mats. It works fine and if I want prettier, I’ll switch to something else or paint the ply black to match the mats.

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GregD

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#24 posted 08-24-2016 05:54 PM


It was mentioned a few times, the riser would be between the saw and the mobile base. BTW, nice shop layout, no reason to screw that up.

- Fred Hargis

That would work if he has the industrial mobile base. It will NOT work if he has the integrated mobile base. The integrated base consists of wheels that bolt onto the saw cabinet.

I have the 3HP PCS with the integrated mobile base. I also have it up on 1-1/2” blocks. In a cramped space. Very occasionally I need to move the saw out to the middle of the garage to cut longer stock. It is not much of a hassle to get the saw off the blocks by leaning the saw to the right and removing the left blocks and then to the left and removing the right blocks (putting it on blocks is the reverse). Even easier, I imagine, if it is practical to tilt the saw front and back.

-- Greg D.

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