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What more handtools do I need to complete my shop.

by Combo Prof
posted 08-03-2016 02:59 AM


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Boxguy

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#1 posted 08-03-2016 03:38 AM

Don, I sometimes use the plane that bends in the middle for circular work. Sorry I don’t know the number. I also bought an old Stanley angle gauge that i like using.

-- Big Al in IN

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Combo Prof

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#2 posted 08-03-2016 03:39 AM

Thats a 113 or even beter 20 or 20 1/2. Thanks for the reminder. I probably should have one!

And Al I’ll be posting a new box soon!

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 08-03-2016 03:55 AM

Some saws, I like Japanese pull saws, dividers, trammel points, and chisels.

And diamond stones, strops, and green honing compound.

Have fun!

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Combo Prof

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#4 posted 08-03-2016 04:10 AM

I’m good on stones, green compound, dividers and chisels. I have one Japanese pull saw. I do need a new strop. Good idea on trammel points, and I have a hard time turning down a chisel.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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bandit571

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#5 posted 08-03-2016 04:18 AM

Maybe a few of these?

After all, one does need to measure a few things….

How you fixed for squares?

Coping or fret saws?

Have enough hammers and mallets?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Combo Prof

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#6 posted 08-03-2016 04:36 AM

I do have folding rulers. I could use a large try square and better coping/fret saws. You make your own mallet. I think I have enough hammers.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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TheFridge

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#7 posted 08-03-2016 04:39 AM

Rasps and files wouldn’t hurt

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Combo Prof

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#8 posted 08-03-2016 07:32 AM



Rasps and files wouldn t hurt

- TheFridge

I got some, but I could use some better ones.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Robert

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#9 posted 08-03-2016 12:01 PM

It all depends on whether you are primarily a tool collector or ww’er.
If the latter, sounds like you’ve already got more than enough.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#10 posted 08-03-2016 12:39 PM

Shoulder plane(s)? #92 or #93, even a #278.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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JayT

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#11 posted 08-03-2016 01:01 PM

Definitely get a compass plane. Since getting a #20, it’s expanded the possibilities of my projects greatly. More good quality rasps are next on my list, as well. I’d also suggest stepping up from the #80 and look at a better scraper plane

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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Combo Prof

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#12 posted 08-03-2016 01:39 PM

rwe I did not plan on being a collector. Somehow I’ve started to become one. For example I have all the Sargent plow planes that have the front horn (i.e. No. 196,197,198) for no other reason then the filigree makes them look cool. And also an auto-set for the same reason. I do have Miller falls 10, 14c, 22, 57, 75 because the first plane I restored was the MF 14c and well I like using them. They have sort of become a passion for them. Do for example I often use the MF 10 instead of the Stanley 4 1/2. I also like collecting Auburn Tool Company Molding planes, maybe someday piecing together a set of Hollow and Rounds. And I sort of collect E.C. Stearns when I find them, because I went to High school in Syracuse.

You are possibly correct I probably do have more then enough.

  • The wisdom usually espoused is to only buy a tool when you need it. You don’t have to buy them all at once.

Maybe good advice… if you have continual but sparse income … but not so if you know you will be on fixed income soon. Better to buy now while I have extra money.

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Smitty thanks for responding I have only the highest regard for your opinions. Indeed a shoulder plan is on the list, they are just so bloody expensive, I thought I just might settle for a wooden one.

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JayT I think you are spot on. I definitely hope to pick up a #20 if he has one.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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OSU55

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#13 posted 08-03-2016 01:55 PM

A high angle smoother and/or scraper plane for figured wood. No matter how well a Bailey/Bedrock design plane is tuned, if you work figured wood they will tear out. A #80 will do it, but a scraper plane is much nicer. Mujingfang makes a ~8-1/2” long 2” blade woodie with a 63° bed angle, HSS iron, for ~$80. LN and Veritas have options as well.

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Dan P

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#14 posted 08-03-2016 02:08 PM

Swann-Morton scalpel with lots of blades.

-- Daniel P

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Combo Prof

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#15 posted 08-03-2016 02:14 PM

JayT What do you mean by a “better scraper plane”. OSU55 never considered a Mujingfang. Do you mean this one? They seem to be on sale at woodcraft. What are the LN and Veritas options? I’ve been using card scrapers for figured wood.

Daniel I’ll pass on a Swann-Morton scalpel

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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JayT

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#16 posted 08-03-2016 02:22 PM

JayT What do you mean by a “better scraper plane”.

- Combo Prof

Same as OSU. A #12 or #112 is leaps and bounds better than a #80 for scraping. They are especially useful when working with figured wood. Much better on large panels than a card scraper and don’t wear out your thumbs near as bad.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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BurlyBob

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#17 posted 08-03-2016 03:10 PM

I’ve found that a square point is one of the handiest little tools for starting a pilot hole. It’s not as exciting as bigger tools but it’s been a lifesaver starting holes in hinges.

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Combo Prof

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#18 posted 08-03-2016 03:16 PM

I’ve been using a center punch, but I should make a square point. Good suggestion.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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OSU55

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#19 posted 08-03-2016 04:57 PM

Yes, that’s the one. Mine required improving the blade bedding, relieving for chip ejection and some other tuning, but works great. LN has 55° frogs for their smoothers, and 3 scraping planes. Veritas has frogs 40°-65° for the Custom Hand Planes, 2 sizes of BU smoothers (blade bevel determines cutting angle), and a large and small scraping plane. If doing small surfaces, card scrapers are fine, but for even small table tops, like a night stand, square leg surfaces, aprons, etc. a hi angle plane or scraping plane is much faster and far easier on the hands, with no concerns about keeping the surface flat as with card scrapers.

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bandit571

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#20 posted 08-03-2016 05:15 PM



I ve been using a center punch, but I should make a square point. Good suggestion.

- Combo Prof


Perhaps look into a VIX bit?

I use that one for all the pilot holes for hinges and handles. As for what is in that tool box….

And the other side..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Loren

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#21 posted 08-03-2016 05:28 PM

Iwasaki files. 3 or 4 is all you’ll need.

You almost won’t want nice rasps if you get the
files first.

I like the Japan style marking/cutting gauge.
Preference I suppose.

Bow saw. I’m entranced by the Japan blade one
sold by Highland Hardware.

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BigYin

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#22 posted 08-03-2016 06:07 PM

more clamps

-- ... Never Apologise For Being Right ...

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jwmalone

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#23 posted 08-03-2016 06:34 PM

You can never be through completing you collection of necessary tools, even if lived to 150. lol have fun

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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Combo Prof

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#24 posted 08-03-2016 06:37 PM

Just trying to put together a shopping list, for tonight/tomorrow.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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JADobson

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#25 posted 08-03-2016 08:38 PM

I’ll echo Loren on the bow saw. I bought the Grammercy kit and built my own (I definitely wouldn’t spend $200 on the complete version). It is not a difficult build. One of my favourite tools.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=71362&cat=1,42884,71437

-- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks

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Combo Prof

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#26 posted 08-06-2016 09:28 PM

Here is what I came home with:

  • Tri-square 17.5” Siewers Cincinatti Ohio Tool company.
  • Unnamed skew rabbet plane (I boutght for the iron).
  • Stanley 112
  • Kunz 113
  • Marking gauge.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Ocelot

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#27 posted 08-06-2016 10:03 PM

If you save your money now, you’ll have extra money later. ;-)


[...]
Better to buy now while I have extra money.

[...]

- Combo Prof


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Ocelot

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#28 posted 08-06-2016 10:05 PM

... Oh and I agree about the Iwasaki files. Also, get a couple of the Shinto saw rasps – cheap and very useful.

Look for “Saw File L” and “Saw File S” on ebay. For some reason they are sold for twice the price under other listings.

-Paul

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CFrye

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#29 posted 08-06-2016 10:50 PM

Nice get today, Don. Do you have a flush cut saw? Vise? Hold fasts? Bench cookies?

-- God bless, Candy

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Tim

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#30 posted 08-07-2016 12:20 AM

That’s a solid pick up of items from your wish list. I hope your Kunz does better than the Kunz spokeshave I have. Then again my Stanley 113 isn’t amazing either, but it does do the job.

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Combo Prof

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#31 posted 08-07-2016 02:02 AM



If you save your money now, you ll have extra money later. ;-)

[...]
Better to buy now while I have extra money.

[...]

- Combo Prof

- Ocelot

If I don’t money now on tools it will get spent on other things.

I will look at Iwasaki files and Shinto saw rasps, but I have been finding a few vintage rasps and files that seem to be good.


Nice get today, Don. Do you have a flush cut saw? Vise? Hold fasts? Bench cookies?

- CFrye

Yes I have those, but only homemade cookies.


That s a solid pick up of items from your wish list. I hope your Kunz does better than the Kunz spokeshave I have. Then again my Stanley 113 isn t amazing either, but it does do the job.

- Tim

I admit I am a bit nervous about the Kunz 113, I was hoping he had a Stanley 20. The 112 and large tri-square was a surprise.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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