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TED'S Woodworking- is it a scam?

by Tooch
posted 02-19-2015 03:48 PM


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jmartel

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#1 posted 02-19-2015 03:50 PM

Yes, it’s a scam. The plans are either readily available free online, or they are stolen plans. Plus, as you have found, it’s difficult to get your money back. They keep spamming on the website here under different names.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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Tooch

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#2 posted 02-19-2015 03:57 PM

The only thing that makes me more upset is that I fell for it… ugh…

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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woodshaver Tony C

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#3 posted 02-19-2015 04:28 PM

Tooch,
OUCH!
Sorry you got cough up in that mess.

For me, these types of ad’s have a certain look to them. But sometimes I’ll give it a few seconds to listen and then I’ll see or hear something that make me say NOPE!
Like…..
“I can only leave this video up for 24 hours” was my red flag.

I figured it was one of those ads that you had to listen to for a long time, taking up so much of your time that you felt you should do it or all the time you spent on listening was wasted.

Now, I usually steer clear of anything that resembles an ad like this. I’ve been taken a few time also, It’s hard to know what’s good and what’s not.

I hope you get your money back.

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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Tooch

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#4 posted 02-19-2015 04:36 PM

Tony I after several calls and lots of time waiting on hold, I finally got throgh to someone from ClickBank. The gentleman on the other end of the line granted me a refund, but said it will take up to 5 days to post.

I think I’m going to file a Dispute with my credit card company anyhow, just to be safe.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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crank49

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#5 posted 02-19-2015 04:39 PM

By all means file with your Credit Card.
Any thing connected to Ted’s is a scam and that includes various delaying tactics.

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ScottKaye

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#6 posted 02-19-2015 04:45 PM

almost all of his designs and probably “all” of them are stolen from other woodworkers.. Check out WWMM. He’s done a video all about TED and his shady practices! link here

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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bondogaposis

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#7 posted 02-19-2015 04:55 PM

Wish you would have checked here first. Ted’s is a well known scam and all of their plans are either stolen or are available free elsewhere.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 02-19-2015 04:57 PM

Hmmm.. that video link seems to be broken for me.. but a quick google search for “Ted’s woodworking fraud” turns up a LOT of hits, even from Matthias over at woodgears.ca ( http://woodgears.ca/ted/ ) and Steve Ramsey has a page devoted to him at WWMM ( http://www.woodworkingformeremortals.com/2012/04/teds-woodworking-fraud.html ). Someone even tried to find the address listed for them and it doesn’t exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3rAcKT7NCw

File that claim with your CC company.. sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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bruc101

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#9 posted 02-19-2015 05:04 PM

Ole Ted the woodworker has been around a long time.

https://www.google.com/#q=ted%27s+woodworking+rip+off+reports

Here is the Whois records on his website:

http://whois.domaintools.com/tedswoodworking.com

Here is where his website is hosted: If’s he’s on a VPS server he’s most likely looking for some security and his site could be taking 1000’s of unique hits a day.

-- Bruce Free Plans https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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agallant

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#10 posted 02-19-2015 05:13 PM

Call up your issuing credit card company that you used and tell them it was a scam and you never got the services you paid for. They will take the money back out of Toms woodworking merchent account. If they get enough of these complaints the credit card companies will drop them and they will not be allowed to accept cards any more. As an added bonus for each one of the complaints and refunds the percentage they pay per transaction goes up.

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woodshaver Tony C

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#11 posted 02-19-2015 05:28 PM

Glad to hear that your’e getting a refund Tooch! Hope it all goes smoothly!
I would still do what some of the guys have mentioned here. Call the number on the back of your credit card and they will take any charges off your bill.

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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#12 posted 02-19-2015 08:50 PM

I am sorry to say I did something similar BUT as i used paypal I just lodged protest with them saying Goods where not as described and was fraudulent and asked for refund, same with ClickBank and got full refund within 5 days. As long as you state the transaction was “Not as described and was Fraudulent” you should have no problem getting a refund. I never make decisions with my friend Jim Beam after that.

Regards Tom

-- Something from TommyB43's Keyboard

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Blackie_

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#13 posted 02-19-2015 08:57 PM

Tooch, this has been a well spoken topic here on LJ’s in the past, Steve Ramsey has several videos on Ted’s woodworking, be sure to go through all of his videos, here’s one for starters.

http://lumberjocks.com/Stevinmarin/blog/29377

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Tooch

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#14 posted 02-19-2015 09:04 PM

TommyB funny you mention that, Jim was also a part of my poor decision making… Although it wasn’t the first bad decision with Jimmy at the helm of my brain, I can assure you it won’t be the last, either!

Randy times like these I wish I was a more active participant on the LJs forums… I normally stick to the projects or forum topics posted by my buddies

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#15 posted 02-19-2015 09:14 PM

Tooch, I have my students research free plans for what they want to make. This gives them a good starting point. All my students have MacBooks so the research can be done in class.

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gfadvm

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#16 posted 02-20-2015 01:26 AM

Tooch, We have put a bounty on ole Ted! And I think Monte will be tracking him down. Sorry you got sucked in.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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distrbd

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#17 posted 02-20-2015 01:43 AM

Andy ,you forgot to mention,dead or alive.I wish this bounty hunter was still around but Monte will get the job done.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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Richard

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#18 posted 02-20-2015 02:04 AM



Andy ,you forgot to mention,dead or alive.I wish this bounty hunter was still around but Monte will get the job done.

- distrbd


I would add to the Bounty . I also work in IT and if you ever find a Virus creator you don’t have to take them to court , just take them to an IT convention , they won’t come out.
So we just find Ted and take him to a Wood Workers Show he won’t come out again ether.

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woodshaver Tony C

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#19 posted 02-20-2015 02:07 AM

A bounty on ole Ted….. Dead or alive! ummmm Ok…..So I guess someone may need to build a pine box!
I was thinking this may be a good project for your Students Tooch!
But I’m not real sure that would be a good idea! :(

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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agallant

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#20 posted 02-20-2015 02:20 AM

The domain name expires in less than a month and has not been renewed.

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bonesbr549

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#21 posted 02-20-2015 02:54 AM

WOW sorry you got burned. I know you don’t want to hear, but a google would have shown all the bad info. Dude’s been burnin folks a long time.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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retfr8flyr

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#22 posted 02-20-2015 04:20 AM

The thing that makes me the maddest is that he has hundreds of sites funneling to him. It’s impossible to search for a plan and not end up hitting his scams. I wish there was some way to get him removed from the search engines. New woodworkers looking for plans end up in his scams and I’m sure it turns many of them away from the hobby.

-- Earl

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Tooch

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#23 posted 02-20-2015 04:27 AM

After many posts and careful consideration, I decided to put together an all star team of Bounty hunters to find the man they call “TED”. So far here’s my lineup:

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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Tooch

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#24 posted 02-20-2015 04:30 AM

riding in that truck will be these 2:

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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Tooch

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#25 posted 02-20-2015 04:36 AM

and just recently checking back to his site a few times, its the same “Facebook posts” at the bottom, the times just change to make it look like they are recent.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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EZCyclone

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#26 posted 02-20-2015 05:16 AM


Someone even tried to find the address listed for them and it doesn t exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3rAcKT7NCw

Yup, that was me. Other than the angry red necks, there was nothing there. No Ted.

Now, here’s very very twisted part to the story…

I’m getting married in June, and the other day we got a wedding gift from “Ted” At least the gift said it was from him, with the address in Slater. The funny thing is it was a $1.50 item off our registry and cost this person, whom ever it was, $7 to have it shipped here. Talk about being creeped out…

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RoadHogg

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#27 posted 02-20-2015 05:43 AM

Looks like his Ted’s Sheds site has been taken down by the host. The links on this page are dead.

http://tedssheds.net/

-- "The difference between school and real life is that in real life the tests come first, and then the lessons" -- Robert Lang, ReadWatchDo.com

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#28 posted 02-20-2015 07:19 AM

Tooch, I just have to say it – YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK!!!

-- "They don't want it perfect - they want it SPECIAL"

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Tooch

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#29 posted 02-20-2015 01:02 PM


Someone even tried to find the address listed for them and it doesn t exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3rAcKT7NCw
I m getting married in June, and the other day we got a wedding gift from “Ted” At least the gift said it was from him, with the address in Slater. The funny thing is it was a $1.50 item off our registry and cost this person, whom ever it was, $7 to have it shipped here. Talk about being creeped out…

This might be my new favorite practical joke- Sending people gifts from “TED” ahaha

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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Roger

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#30 posted 02-20-2015 01:09 PM

No box needed. Just drop him in, cover him up, end of story

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. [email protected]

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#31 posted 02-20-2015 04:20 PM

Unfortunately there are dozens of duplicate sites selling Ted’s Woodworking, as well as most of the woodworking apps in the Google Play store for Android. There are also a ton of fake YouTube videos asking if it’s a scam but then offering it for sale. Many of the sites embed content from popular video podcasters to make it seem like Ted’s Woodworking has a favorable relationship with them.

Steve Ramsey did a series of episodes a few years ago investigating Ted’s Woodworking. The supposed corporate headquarters at the time was at a nonexistent address in the tiny town of Slater, IA. Matthias Wandel also wrote an article on the scam.

-- Ask an expert or be the expert - http://woodworking.stackexchange.com

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Rob

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#32 posted 02-20-2015 04:24 PM


I m getting married in June, and the other day we got a wedding gift from “Ted” At least the gift said it was from him, with the address in Slater. The funny thing is it was a $1.50 item off our registry and cost this person, whom ever it was, $7 to have it shipped here. Talk about being creeped out…

Well hopefully it’s just a practical joke from one of your friends, but If I were you I’d get a big dog and keep my chisels nearby when I go to sleep.

-- Ask an expert or be the expert - http://woodworking.stackexchange.com

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Tooch

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#33 posted 02-20-2015 06:32 PM

Thanks for the info Rob

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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wolf335599

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#34 posted 02-20-2015 07:21 PM

You can find 6000+ woodwoking plans by torrent. It’s recopilation of different sources.

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#35 posted 02-20-2015 07:22 PM

Maybe we could get Chuck Norris to handle Ted?

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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#36 posted 02-26-2015 06:54 PM

Another Ted clone

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Tooch

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#37 posted 02-27-2015 11:06 AM

haha is there a way to report this guy?

The thing is, Most real LJs will do whatever they can to help each other out, including giving as much info about projects as possible. I don’t think I’ve ever had someone try to sell me their plans…

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#38 posted 02-27-2015 01:54 PM

Terrible Teds woodworking is our biggest predator. Gives our craft a bad name. I can’t say enough bad about them. I dearly wish one of their cronies would come on here to defend them.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#39 posted 02-27-2015 02:44 PM



haha is there a way to report this guy?

- Tooch


Yes,I did ,I’m sure many of the members who followed the thread in the link bellow ,have flagged him but he’s still there,looks like he’s not breaking any site rules.the member’s name:Avimaelwoodworking

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/81921

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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Tooch

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#40 posted 03-02-2015 10:04 PM

I just realized TED has a Twitter account- @WoodworkIdea.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#41 posted 01-07-2017 07:38 PM

Thanks LJ’s, I almost fell for Teds Woodworking just now. Glad I came here to check it out first.

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#42 posted 01-07-2017 09:59 PM

Can’t say it enough, TED’S WOODWORKING IS A TOTAL SCAM!

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#43 posted 01-07-2017 11:13 PM

Ted is always around, one account gets banned, he makes another. Sometimes he’s easy to spot because the names have a similar ring like Bent Nail, Plane Jane, or Rusty Saw, stuff like that. There are also dozens of bogus blog sites that serve to boost his search engine rankings.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#44 posted 01-07-2017 11:43 PM

His brother is in the same game with Mikes woodworking, 16,000 plans and even promises cad software so you can customize the plans. Yep I looked, nope didn’t buy. mikeswoodworkingprojects.com

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#45 posted 01-08-2017 03:58 AM

So glad that someone was able to avoid the Scam b/c of this thread. I spent over 3 weeks trying to get my money back from a momentary lapse of judgement. Ended up having to call my credit card company and stop the payment.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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youdidntbuildthat72

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#46 posted 01-10-2017 03:12 PM

glad you posted that here. I too have seen those ads and wondered if it was a good deal. Sounded so. Glad I didnt sign up for it now. Thanks again for posting and letting others know to avoid it.

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#47 posted 01-10-2017 03:24 PM

I keep getting emails from a brian palme, claiming he is from Woodnet.com? Says “my” plans are waiting?

I keep blocking him, he just sends more “plans”....no money has been involved, nor will there be..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#48 posted 02-14-2017 07:40 PM

I am a new member to LJ’s and just so happens that I saw the Ted’s Woodworking video yesterday. It sounded to good to be true, so I serched the blogs to see if anyone heard of Ted’s.
I am so glad I did. Thank you Lumber Jack.

-- Jay Mansdorf

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#49 posted 03-10-2017 08:07 PM

I watched the “Ted’s Woodworking” B.S. advertising informercial, I’d say sad. It seems that the scammers know no bounds, they get into everything…
I have advanced M.S., it’s hard for me to do a lot of different things, but woodworking is something I truly enjoy. I’m no ‘novice’ when it comes to woodworking, I have a good supply of tools, but in no way am I a Norm Abrams, (my favorite craftsman ever!)
I’m looking for a place where I get get either low-cost <$20, or free-woodworking plans. Woodworking plans that focus on specific skills: routing, joining, milling, re-sawing, planning, joints, would be great. I’m not planning on selling anything, I just need things to do when I feel good enough to do them.

Thanks everyone!!

Jim

-- Talking out of turn? That's a paddlin'. Lookin' out the window? That's a paddlin'. Staring at my sandals? That's a paddlin'. Paddlin' the school canoe? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.

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#50 posted 03-10-2017 09:11 PM

He used to have an account right here on LJjs untill sombody set Chris Kyle on to him!

Or Maybe it was Simon Wiesenthal, forgotten now …. but I know he has gone,....so sad.

I see his account now has yet another $80 in it!! spit!

I think Steve Ramsay and Mathias Wandell have bought his plans check their sites out for an update

-- Regards Rob

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