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looking for advice on a jointer

by David Theller
posted 09-23-2013 12:31 AM


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lateralus819

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#1 posted 09-23-2013 12:40 AM

Ever thought about doing it by hand? It’s quite rewarding and doesn’t take much time at all. Could probably nab a #8 fairly cheap. Just a thought.

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David Theller

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#2 posted 09-23-2013 12:46 AM

I have tried, but with unsatisfactory results. I only have a #5s and #4s. Would the #8 make a great difference?

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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Craig

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#3 posted 09-23-2013 12:53 AM

I bought a used Jet 6” JJ-6CSX off CL a few years ago, and I’ve been happy, except I wish it was an 8”. Made a planer sled for wider boards. I have a #7 that gets used frequently as well.

I’d get the biggest you can afford or fit in your shop.

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lateralus819

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#4 posted 09-23-2013 01:09 AM

It helps with longer boards, but I’m sure it will do. Heres a video that helped me TREMENDOUSLY. I mean it, until i saw this i couldn’t figure out what i was doing wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJfD0-fFAzI

I always thought to just run down the board, apparently i have tendency to take off more on the left side.

food for thought. Alot quieter too ;)

A used #8 goes for about $125.

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 09-23-2013 01:39 AM

There was an 8” Grizzly, spiral cutterhead, and 6’ bed on Tulsa CL tonight for $500. This is a rare bargain! And it looked almost new!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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HorizontalMike

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#6 posted 09-23-2013 01:54 AM

Dave,
If you are going to go the hand plane route, I would suggest trying to find a large wooden jointer. They are much, much lighter to use and can do a great job.

Here is my 22in Auburn with its big thick blade.

NOTE: The biggest issue with going the hand plane route is to have a good sharpening routine and/or system. Planes that are not sharp, or are not sharpened correctly can be a great source of frustration.

Other than that, CL has 6in jointers all of the time. Boatloads of folks start with a 6in and then move up to an 8in or larger, so they end up selling the 6in on CL. As @gfadvm points out, on occasion you may see an 8in pop up on CL. AS a matter of fact, that is exactly how I scored my 8in spiral head Grizzly G0593. I paid $700 for it when it was just 2yr old at the time. Keep your eyes out and good luck.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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David Theller

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#7 posted 09-23-2013 02:20 AM

First, thanks for all of the advice.

Laterlus, I would like to start using hand tools more and more. Thank you for the video, it’s amazing all the information on YouTube.

Craig, Space is a concern, but not a major one. do you mind asking what price range you got it for?

gfadvm, sounds awesome but to get my truck out there and back would double the cost!

Mike, i have been looking at getting a never wooden plane, I picked up an older one however the blade wedge is very worn/cracked.

CL has several that look decent, however I would of course want to look at them further. Can you suggest any of the better brands?

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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HorizontalMike

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#8 posted 09-23-2013 02:14 PM

Dave,
Here are a couple of ideas, since you truly want a “user”. I personally would find an old wooden plane 22-26in long with a good thick blade such as what I posted. From there I would rebuild a laminated plane around that blade with new lumber using the original plane as a guide. Building a laminated plane makes the cuts much simpler to do correctly.

Similar to these kits:
Ron Hock Kits

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Making your own from scratch:

David Finck -- Making and Mastering Wood Planes

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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MisterBill

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#9 posted 09-23-2013 07:55 PM

Dave,

Where are you located?

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pintodeluxe

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#10 posted 09-23-2013 08:29 PM

Jet 6” jointer on a budget. I had one and it worked well, except it was often not wide enough.

Now I use a Delta DJ-20 8” jointer. It has 1-1/2 hp which is plenty. The extra bed width and length make it much easier to handle most boards I come across.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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firefighterontheside

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#11 posted 09-23-2013 09:39 PM

I bought a 6” grizzly that was about 20 years old for $225. I think I should have paid less, but they didn’t come up very often. I feel that the 46” bed is perfect for what I do. Longest thing I expect to joint is a 6ft table plank. So I would think in the range of $150 – $225 for a 6“.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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David Theller

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#12 posted 09-23-2013 10:36 PM

Sorry, college has gotten in the way of playing in the wood shop.

Mike, I will be looking into that book, making a plane has been a dream of mine. what would be the best lumber to use?

Master bill, I am in central Ohio, south of Columbus.

Pinto, a 6” would be a great step up, the bed on the little thing I have been using is less than 30”

Bill, the ones i was seeing on CL were closer to $500 for anything that was decent, both were deltas

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 09-23-2013 11:14 PM

Dave,
David Finck takes you through all the steps of selecting the best wood and building. Follow the link I posted above and select the video link (on the second line of text). That should answer give you a better idea of what is expected and offered.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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firefighterontheside

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#14 posted 09-26-2013 01:52 PM

When I bought mine there was a delta on Cl for 350, but I was trying to spend 200. Keep looking for a while, you should be able to find something.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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Bogeyguy

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#15 posted 09-26-2013 02:11 PM

LOL! You had your Shop Smith joiner plugged into a power strip? You may want to upgrade for the new joiner when you get it.

-- Art, Pittsburgh.

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ScrubPlane

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#16 posted 09-28-2013 01:00 PM

Recommend patience and wait on CL if you don’t need the capability right away. You’ll eventually find a reasonable deal there.

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waho6o9

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#17 posted 09-28-2013 01:50 PM

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4091899894.html

6” powermatic for 300.00

It’ll last you a lifetime.

There’s a plethora of jointers on CL. Good luck on your
decision.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=42&subAreaID=&query=jointer&catAbb=sss

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firefighterontheside

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#18 posted 09-28-2013 08:54 PM

That grizzly on cl looks to be the same grizzly I got and a similar age. Definitely not worth 400. A brand new grizzly is about 450. It would be good for 175 as long as it checked out ok, but someone trying to get 400 for it is gonna be hard to convince that it’s only worth 175. Maybe try for that powermatic for 250.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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David Theller

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#19 posted 09-30-2013 12:18 AM

Thanks again for all of the advice. I will keep my eyes peeled for one on CL.

The powermatic is one I will look into further

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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Grandpa

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#20 posted 09-30-2013 02:12 AM

There was a lot of discussion on here a couple of years ago about Powermatic jointers and …..seems like the infeed table sagging or something. Bertha had one I think. Check with him.

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David Theller

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#21 posted 10-04-2013 01:03 AM

Wanted to give an update on this. The parts to fix the shop smith are on the way, no thanks to their customer service.
Two, Mike this is the wood plane I aquired a few years ago

Its marked as a Scioto Works 22 inch plane, it appears a previous owner left it in some motor oil. Does it appear to be worth the effort to fix, or do I use the blade and ditch the plane body

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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