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Any experience with new Laguna 14/12 bandsaw?

by sakle2k
posted 09-18-2013 06:59 AM


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Klif

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#51 posted 04-05-2014 05:15 PM

I too was in the market for an affordable but good band saw until last week. I researched everything I could find on the internet and else where. Luckily I live in the DFW area where almost every brand is readily available. After trying various band saws at both dealers and club members shops, the choice was easy for me. I got the Laguna 14/twelve and am more than satisfied with it. Quality and performance are on par with any saw in the $1000 – $2000 price range. The saw is made in Taiwan not China, if that makes a difference to anyone, it is precision in the fit, and the blade is very easy to change. All this week I have been resawing 7”x10”x5’-0” Oak timbers that came from the oil fields where they have been used for the last 30 years, so you have an idea how dense they are. I am running my saw on 115v using a 3/4” carbide tip blade with no bogging problems. The resawn pieces clean up easily with very little plane work. So all said and done I highly recommend getting the Laguna, you wont be disappointed. What ever you get try to get the most saw for the money that you can afford.

-- Klif, Texas

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NevadaB

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#52 posted 04-07-2014 01:56 AM

I am very interested in all the comments on the Laguna 14/12. I was in Reno and looked at the 14/12 along with 14 inch saws from Rikon, Powermatic, and Jet, all side by side. The Laguna really had the feel of quality, and was in stock and on sale for $1000, but I did not buy it because the table seemed quite low (38 inches). The Rikon was only an inch higher while the Powermatic and Jet were more like 44 inches which seemed like a better height. I did not find the Jet to be of the quality I expected. The Powermatic seemed like a very good saw but overpriced compared to the others.

Two questions. Has anyone else thought the table is low (I have never used anything but a fairly useless table top band saw). And, if I would buy the Laguna and find the table too low has anyone ever successfully built a riser for a bandsaw to raise the table 6 inches or so?

I may need to do more research into the Grizzly 0555LANV, or consider waiting for a good sale on the Powermatic.

Thanks.

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Dedvw

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#53 posted 04-07-2014 07:39 PM

Nevada, I have had the 14/Twelve for about a month and a half now and have had a number of chances to use it. I’m 6’6” so table height is important to me and I can tell you the table is a bit low for me but not so much that I’m uncomfortable while using it. I do miss my Craftsman Professional Bandsaw table height at 44 inches but the quality of the Laguna quickly helps me forget my old bandsaw table height. I have considered building a riser kit but it is low on my priority list.

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whope

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#54 posted 04-07-2014 07:52 PM

I was in the exact same spot as you. I’m not sure what “Laguna guides” are as the ceramic ones come stock and I don’t recall seeing any mention of different guides at the Laguna website.

I’ve had my saw a week (still waiting on some blades). I did get the Resaw King blade and have cut some 4×4 pine (so not too hard for the saw).

I have a small shop like yours and got the mobility kit so I can move it around. My shop feels like a slider puzzle.

-- Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an axe.

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dstutz

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#55 posted 07-31-2014 02:25 AM

I’ve had my 1412 for a few months now and while overall I’m extremely happy with the saw and don’t regret for one second replacing my Rikon 10-325, I’ve noticed a vibration while the saw is running. I was looking at the upper wheel and the tire isn’t uniformly mounted. For most of the wheel it’s fairly flush with the front but there is one spot where it’s pushed back a bit. I took a video with my phone which shows what I’m talking about (link below). Anyone think this might be my problem? I haven’t even looked to see if the tire is glued to the wheel or not as I’ve been using it and didn’t want to take the blade off. Do any owners know if it’s glued or not? I haven’t really messed with it as I just don’t want to touch anything on this one unless I have to and it’s cutting really nice. I do recall it being nice and smooth when I ran it before putting the blade on which led me to believe it had something to do with the upper wheel and then I saw the tire misaligned.

Here’s a link to the video.
http://1drv.ms/1s58eoQ

As I said, seems to cut nice:

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Randy Woodworker

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#56 posted 10-23-2014 03:02 PM



My suggestion promoting 220 over 110 is certainly not critical but is three-fold.

First, one advantage of running 220 is that are drawing the power from both hot legs in the circuit box…meaning, your tool will reach maximum speed more quickly.

Second, and far more importantly, there are two hots, so it will only pull half the amperage through each hot lead, meaning all your wiring both leading to the tool and within the motor itself will run cooler . . . with a dual voltage motor, the two windings in the motor run in series for 115v, and in parallel at 230v with half the amps running through the windings . . . cooler is always a good thing as the motor will last longer.

A bit over-kill in some applications I agree…just my preference I guess. THANKS…

- ScrubPlane

This is wrong on multiple fronts. Motor winding amps are the same internally regardless of which voltage connection you use. At 110 volt, the windings are in paralllel, at 220 they are in series. You had it backwards.
The only peformance increase that is seen is if the feeder cables are long and there is more voltage drop in the wires. This usually means slightly longer acceleration times, but almost no impact during use.

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Randy Woodworker

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#57 posted 10-30-2014 09:59 PM

I bought this saw a few days ago and have experienced some of the same quality problems.

Uneven tires – Laguna promptly shipped replacements – waiting for delivery

Fence not square – Laguna has ordered a new design that includes allen key adjustment mechanism and will ship to me when they receive it.

Table not flat. I can flatten it near the blade by tighting the tilt locking knob more on the infeed side on the table versus the outfeed, but it is still not ideal. Still waiting to hear back from Laguna on this.

Laguna has been great to deal with so far.

My impression of this bandsaw is that it is a great design, with poor factory QA/QC.

I really like it, in spite of the quality issues that have to be resolved. Powerful, smooth, great blade stability, excellent rack and pinnion height adjustment, big 1” tension spring, superb dust collection, sexy paint job.

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Dedvw

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#58 posted 10-31-2014 12:02 AM

Ryan,

Don’t give up on this bandsaw. I have owned if for almost a year, and have used dozens of bandsaws built from Laguna, Jet, Delta, Sears and Rikon (some of them were high end 18”ers). I’ve had really good luck with my 14twelve but just recently put a new Shearforce blade on it. After using my Shearforce, I can 100% say that this bandsaw has given me the finest cut I have ever seen from a bandsaw. It was nice enough to show my wife the before Shearforce and after Shearforce cuts that I had laying around the shop.

Bottom line, this thing has the potential to be awesome!

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Randy Woodworker

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#59 posted 10-31-2014 03:16 AM



Ryan,

Don t give up on this bandsaw. I have owned if for almost a year, and have used dozens of bandsaws built from Laguna, Jet, Delta, Sears and Rikon (some of them were high end 18”ers). I ve had really good luck with my 14twelve but just recently put a new Shearforce blade on it. After using my Shearforce, I can 100% say that this bandsaw has given me the finest cut I have ever seen from a bandsaw. It was nice enough to show my wife the before Shearforce and after Shearforce cuts that I had laying around the shop.

Bottom line, this thing has the potential to be awesome!

- Dedvw

I agree. There is a lot to like and I intend to persevere until the issues are resolved, as others have done.

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Virgil

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#60 posted 12-22-2014 05:31 PM

I bought a Laguna and now wish I had not. But we buy what we can afford. You may wish to look at Power Matic or seek out a local 2nd hand store that sells all brands. The Laguna has lots of extras for the money, but in my opinion quality is low.

-- [email protected]

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siggs

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#61 posted 12-22-2014 06:53 PM

Lots of good points, the thing works good but you have to live with some lower quality parts. I still curse those plastic wheels and leveler that always seems to fall out and drag on a uneven floor. I broke a blade and it tore pieces of the ceramic guides out. I also managed to heat it up sawing that one guide came loose or unglued. I haven’t done a ton of re saw work but i use a 3/8 blade almost all the time and it allows me to easily make some cool stuff rather effortlessly.

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Andybb

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#62 posted 12-29-2017 05:18 AM

Don’t know if anybody who bought this saw is still watching this thread but if so, I’m about to pull the trigger on one. How has it held up?

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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siggs

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#63 posted 12-29-2017 06:14 AM

Works for smaller projects, I can cut some 6-8” branches and sometimes a bit larger into slabs, for hobby work only mind you. Don’t waste money on their blades, buy them from a local shop that makes them to size 1/3 the cost of less and they hold up just as well. Had better luck with a 5/8” or 3/4”, can’t recall now try a few different sizes and see what works best for your applications. Also get a few 3/8”

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sawdustjeff

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#64 posted 09-25-2018 02:13 PM

I may be late to this conversation since you posted that you received your saw.
I bought a 14-12 about 5 months ago and while the fit and finish is very good, I’m disappointed with the guides.
Both the top and bottom guides are anodized aluminum with 5 cool blocks in each guide.The side guides are 1/4” X 1/4” X 1” and there a 4 in total (two on each side). The rear guide (thrust) is round and incased in metal.
The slots that capture the cool block on the sides of each guide on my saw are very loose. This makes setting the saw up very tedious. On more than one occasion one of the cool blocks actually fell out of the guide.
Nothing like crawling around on the shop floor on your hands and knees looking for a little white one inch block, and worse yet scrounging through the dust collector bag!
If you’re going to setup your saw with a 1” or 1-1/4” blade just for resawing this won’t be a problem.
I plan on using the saw with a 1/4”, 3/4”, and 1” blade and setup becomes a big problem. I have actually lost a cool block although I know it’s in the shop.
It’s my understanding that you can’t just buy one replacement cool block, you have to buy a complete set at $100.00 to $150.00.
I haven’t called Laguna so shame on me but I wonder what the fix could be.
If I have to buy a complete set of guides, the Carter replacement guides (with ball bearing wheels) seem to be more practical.
I don’t profess to be an expert on anything to do with woodworking tools and I’m not complaining. If anyone has any suggestions I’m completely open. Just thought I’d share and hopefully help someone else avoid a headache.
Jeff

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siggs

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#65 posted 09-25-2018 02:29 PM

I had the same issue of the cool block coming unglued, they sent me free a replacement. If I recall it was the wrong one too, they had to resend it.

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sawdustjeff

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#66 posted 09-25-2018 04:02 PM

Siggs,

Thanks for that, I’ve should have called Laguna a while ago.

The “manly man” came out in me and I was sure that I could solve the problem on my brain power alone.

Stupid is as stupid does, oh well, maybe next time.

Ironically, none of the cool blocks on my saw are fastened to the aluminum guide. For that alone I need to call Laguna. Judging from the above posts they seem to have a responsive customer service department.

Thanks again,

Jeff

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siggs

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#67 posted 09-25-2018 04:22 PM

No problem,

What do you mean by none of the cool blocks are fastened to the aluminum guide things? They are susposed to be glued into them, mine fell out I guess not bonded well. The rep said use some ca glue, which I didn’t have at the time.

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sawdustjeff

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#68 posted 09-25-2018 04:29 PM

Mine were not fastened in any way. I briefly went through the manual and couldn’t find any reference to gluing the cool blocks into the aluminum guides.
When I have time this week I’m going to call Laguna. I let you know what they say.

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siggs

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#69 posted 09-25-2018 04:31 PM

Odd, ya they are supposed to be glued into place.

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