All Replies on PCB270TS on the way out?

No, I hadn’t noticed. But then I don’t know what a Porter-Cable PCB270TS is.

I don’t know why every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks every Moe, Larry and Curly has memorized every tool model # out there.

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I haven’t heard anything, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they are pulling it for now at least. Who knows, maybe they’re responding to the R4512’s success by redesigning their saw.

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@AlaskaGuy… LOL sometimes I wonder the same thing.
I’m guessing by the “TS” at the end of the numbers, this is a table saw.

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When I checked the Lowe’s site just now, it was there.

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It seems to be there:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_101711-46069-PCB270TS_4294702886__

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According to the link ChrisK just posted, it’s in stock at my local store. Price here is $599 for reference

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It’s an ok saw for the money, but there’s better saws for the cash.

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You might ask Steve Marin if it’s worth it.

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I think you mean Steve Ramsey (Wood working for mere mortals).

$100 more than the R4512 and plastic elevation gears? No thanks

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I have an R4512 great saw I have not had one problem with it. I came right on right out of the box.

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I was at a Lowes last week and was checking out the PCB270TS. Besides the bevel gear, the other issue I saw was that the stamped steel wings seemed to be made from a thinner gauge of steel than I would want. I haven’t seen the R4512 personally, wonder if the wings are stronger than the Porter Cable wings.

I’m not sure but the R4512 has a stout wing. It also has a good electric motor that you can wire for 220volts..
Some of the other saws don’t have an induction moter like the Ridgid saw.

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lol @ AlaskaGuy – I don’t assume that everyone knows. I certainly don’t memorize them. I was surprised by a response though from someone who didn’t know what I was talking about. Guessing there’s not much to do in Alaska? ;)

Anyhow, I just visited a lowes on the way home and there is no longer a display unit set up in the tool section. I was told by the guy there that they should be available on the website for a while longer, but they were not going to be stocking them. He assumed that meant that they were on the way out.

I’ve been agonizing over purchasing either the Rigid R4512 or the PC for about a year now and then upgrading to cast wings and a better fence as time and money allowed. Feature for feature, they’re almost identical, but I think the PC has a slight advantage – and I’ve never had an issue with any of the PC tools that I own. The PC often goes on sale for $550 and my lowes allows me to use HF coupons, so that’s another 20% off – for $440, I think it’s a pretty good deal.

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Honestly I’ve never wanted cast wings on my R4512. The steel ones are plenty sturdy and flat, and the saw is heavy enough. The fence on the R4512 is a lot nicer, but the split rails suck. The PC has the same design.

Once I saw that plastic blade height assembly in the PC, I looked no further. Aside from trunions, that is probably the second worst location I can think of to put plastic on a table saw. Failure is not a question of “if”, it’s a question of “when”. If I got one of those for free there would be a “New in box PCB270TS” ad on Craigslist the same day. Hearing they may be phasing it out would make me less comfortable knowing that parts availability for a guaranteed failure item my be slim in the near future

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Don’t agonize over it; the 4512 is the better saw here, no contest.
FWIW, that pc saw used to be a hitachi.

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Well that sucks I got my Porter-Cable PCB270TS 5 tears ago. I use it alot to cut 3/4” oak and anything above 7/8”s or higher well slow it down but other than that it has been a good TS the only down side thow the only place that can work on it is over 150 mile’s from me and they only work on the motor.

I guess I haven’t agonized too hard if I wasn’t aware of the plastic gearing. lol I love that every time I come on LJ, you guys always have more info for me. The things that drew me towards the PC were the cabinet mounted trunnions and the height and bevel wheels were both on the front of the saw vs. the table mounted trunnions and the wheels on both the side and the front of the saw. The fences and extensions were pretty much the same. I did read a lot of articles though about people complaining that the rigid was the same saw as the craftsman 21833, which had a lot of alignment issues – something about the blade runout would differ depending on the height of the blade.

Thanks for all the feedback – it’s much appreciated!

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The PCB270TS does have “cabinet mounted trunnions”, but they’re not the big yoke style that many of us come to expect when we hear the term. They should still make alignment easier if you can reach them.

Here’s what’s on the former R4511, Cman 22116, and Steel City 35930:

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You’d be alot better off buying a used American made Delta or Powermatic Contractor’s table saw, or even an older JET. I’ve had a Delta Contractor’s table saw that I bought new in 1995. I’d never sell my saw for any of the imported saws that you’ve been talking about.

I would love to, but they’re either very hard to come by or way over priced here in so cal. Most common thing I see is “antique table saw” – which turns out to be a craftsman bench saw from the 80’s that’s been out in the back yard for a decade. Asking price? Usually $200. – for example, here's your average CL ad by me

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